Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt, I don't think David is an American.

One of the prime reasons that Europeans flocked to America was because the citizens of those European nations disagreed with those who were governing them.

That's actually not the real reason. Those in Europe who did not agree with those who were governing them went the way of revolution. In the 1500's the Dutch broke away from Spain (their declaration, called "Plakkaat van verlatinghe" was the inspiration for the Constitution), in the 1600's the English got rid of King Charles I and the French revolution did the same with the French monarchy in late 1700's. In 1845 just about all of Europe was in some degree of revolt and the French went on the barricades again in 1870.

Sure, some, including the Pilgrim Fathers, did leave Europe because they were being prosecuted for their belief, but the bulk of Europeans came to the new country (as they called it back then) for economic reasons and a better life. The still unexplored territories offered them the possibility of a better future.

So if you disagree with our government, and believe that we have "raped and pillaged"

Those words are perhaps too strongs, but it can not be denied that the USA has meddled in many countries to serve it's own purposes.

The words are outright lies..... The USA has never condoned rape and pillage as a policy....  In fact there are many cases of GI's being court martialed for rape of a citizen of a country that had been an enemy nation.

[Martin Weidmann]

A paranoid Republican talking point; "Our forces are weak when they need to be strong".

Never mind that no foreign nation has attacked us since Pearl Harbor, and none likely will very soon, we still need the biggest forces in the world with the most equipment so we can defend ourselves meddle in the affairs of other countries.

The Republican paranoia knows no bounds. Another frequent talking point of those warmongers; "We need more guns to defend ourselves against nuts with guns"

No matter how many mass shootings, let's not do anything to prevent assault weapons getting in the hands of nuts, let's arm teachers and whoever else instead, so we can have some more mass killings. Who cares that the USA alone has more mass shootings every year than all other countries in the world combined.

That's what you get when, like all Republicans, you are only interested in looking after number 1; more paranoia!

[Martin Weidmann]

Which one is it: a big force or occupy the world or both?  We could have both if your Aunt Hillary had won. We could have paid for all of NATO if Hillary won. We could still have ISIS if Hillary won.  Hey Martin, there is another one that will never get back, Uranium One.

Who said you could get off the bench? We may need to invest in a kennel for you.  Kennel up Martin! hahahahahahahhaha Kennel up! I like that one

Which one is it: a big force or occupy the world or both?

If you had your way it would probably be both. Wouldn't that make paranoid warmongers like you happy?

[Thomas Graves]

Which one is it: a big force or occupy the world or both?  We could have both if your Aunt Hillary had won. We could have paid for all of NATO if Hillary won. We could still have ISIS if Hillary won.  Hey Martin, there is another one that will never get back, Uranium One.

Uranium One?

LOL

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

--  MWT 

[Martin Weidmann]

Boy, you're ignorant and would suck up anything fed to you. Fact check makes excuses: Each member of the committee gets to vote but the vote can't block the sale (imagine that) But the President can

Here is the point No one on the committee even recommended to the President and Fact check what happens as the sale occurred. Hillary didn't vote  and didn't use her only power to recommend to Obama Why did she look the other way as the excuse is in the following paragraph from fact check


"We don’t know much about the committee’s deliberations because there are “strong confidentiality requirements” prohibiting disclosure of information filed with the committee, the Treasury Department says on its website. Some information would have become available if the committee or any one of its members objected to the sale. But none of the nine members objected.

So, you will say there is nothing anyone could do???

Exactly which shows that Hillary ignored her only influence in exchange for her pay off. So then everyone looks the other way and passes the buck.   But how was it a pay off you will ask? Instantly after this deal went through two things happened that were illegal. Known as PAY FOR PLAY CLINTONS KEEP TWO SETS OF BOOKS

1. Ironically Bill Clinton gave speeches for 100's of thousands of dollars to the parent company who purchased Uranium One
2. Hillary received  enormous donations to the Clinton fund from the same purchaser involved in the deal

But none of the nine members [of the committee] objected.

And Hillary is somehow responsible for that? Or is she simply a convenient target in a trumped up, go nowhere, bogus Republican smear strategy?

Instantly after this deal went through two things happened that were illegal. Known as PAY FOR PLAY CLINTONS KEEP TWO SETS OF BOOKS


Two sets of books? Got any evidence for that claim or is it simply hot air, as with most of the Republican claims.

1. Ironically Bill Clinton gave speeches for 100's of thousands of dollars to the parent company who purchased Uranium One

Since when is making speeches for money not legal? Lots of highly placed politicians all over the world do it....

2. Hillary received  enormous donations to the Clinton fund from the same purchaser involved in the deal

The Clinton fund was investigated and, unlike with the Trump fund, nothing illegal or irregular was found.

All you've got is debunked theories.

[Bill Brown]

As the author of the original post in this thread, I request that all political discussion be moved to another area of this forum.

[Dale Nason]

Agreed Bill. This is all OFF TOPIC.

[Jerry Freeman]

Martin why would this be aimed at you? I never tagged you? It was aimed at the OP

You must indicate that or we won't know who.
This topic fell apart at reply #1820
As usual... this thread comes to "Let's say this and let's assume that" and that will make someone right.