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Offline Bruce Backlund

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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2018, 01:29:36 AM »
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Guys named Grover I find trustworthy Did Fritz not say he wasn't sure whether there was a phone call or not? No one on the record seems to have acknowledged whether the call even happened Oh that lovely wiggle room
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At first thought, I would write it off as just John Hurt being drunk that Saturday night and calling Oswald that evening at the Dallas city jail to tell him off.  However, he certainly would not get through, and why leave his name and 2 phone numbers? The other John Hurt in that NC area code was an auto mechanic in his 20's that was written on the operator's card. If Oswald was making a phone call, there is no doubt the police would eavesdrop on the call. The operator denies she went in the other operator's trash can later and got the info off a slip of paper. She states she was also on the line and listened in to Oswald's request.

Also, I read Abraham Bolden's book. He was a secret service agent working in the Chicago office. He got a teletype message to check out whether they had any files on a John Hurt or John Hurd on Sunday night, November 24th. There was also no secret Oswald tried to call Mr. Abt, an ACLU lawyer, but never got through at Abt was out-of-town that weekend.

Oswald could very well have tried to call Hurt for whatever reason, was denied access by law enforcement and Hurt never even knew about it until much later. Oswald was then DOA. End of problem!
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2018, 03:46:01 AM »
The Raleigh/Hurt Phone Connection

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/Raleigh.htm

Offline Mike Orr

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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2018, 04:07:36 AM »
   Rob----- Thanks for putting your long posting on here. The detail you always have together on postings are so good . I can't believe I missed this on your first regular go around on these phone calls that were not put through. It makes you wonder what they might have been doing with his other request .

    Thanks again , Rob

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Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2018, 06:05:39 AM »
The Raleigh/Hurt Phone Connection

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/Raleigh.htm


"If Lee Oswald was working for some intelligence service, it might make sense that he might try to contact it for help or instructions after he was arrested by the Dallas cops.

Or course, this notion is questionable in a lot of ways. If Oswald really was working for some intelligence service, it would be stupid for him to ?blow his cover? by trying to contact his handlers. And if he had inferred that he had been manipulated and made a ?patsy,? it would have made no sense to call the people who had manipulated and patisfied him to complain."



Tim, they hate it when they're bombarded with logic and common sense.
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Offline Matt Grantham

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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2018, 09:22:06 PM »
The Raleigh/Hurt Phone Connection

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/Raleigh.htm

 For me an account by the Wife of Hurt after he died is less significant than the statement of Ms Treon? Are we to assume she just blatantly lied about the entire story because of statement of a women whose Husband likely did not like the attention? There is no middle ground that she had witnessed nothing Why don't we instead go with both versions and just assume that was Hurt's way of confessing to the whole thing when he said he called Oswald at the jail

 The reciept from the DPD is exactly what Treo describes and does not indicate anything but an outgoing call
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Offline Matt Grantham

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"If Lee Oswald was working for some intelligence service, it might make sense that he might try to contact it for help or instructions after he was arrested by the Dallas cops.

Or course, this notion is questionable in a lot of ways. If Oswald really was working for some intelligence service, it would be stupid for him to ?blow his cover? by trying to contact his handlers. And if he had inferred that he had been manipulated and made a ?patsy,? it would have made no sense to call the people who had manipulated and patisfied him to complain."



Tim, they hate it when they're bombarded with logic and common sense.

 Proctor addresses this question with Vincent Marchetti who explains Oswald, and agents of his type would be given a contact, which was called a 'cut out' instead of contacting his direct handlers to call So Hurt would fit that bill

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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2018, 10:51:48 PM »
Proctor addresses this question with Vincent Marchetti who explains Oswald, and agents of his type would be given a contact, which was called a 'cut out' instead of contacting his direct handlers to call So Hurt would fit that bill

How does Hurt "fit that bill"?

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Offline Matt Grantham

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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2018, 11:30:55 PM »
How does Hurt "fit that bill"?

 Someone not known as an agent, but still could be very well involved enough