Did the CIA assassinate JFK?

[Walt Cakebread]

Yet, you've admitted to having no evidence which proves that someone other than Lee Oswald killed Kennedy or Tippit.  If one were to put a gun to your head, you'd admit fully that you believe Oswald murdered two people that day.  You're just an argumentative fool.

In reality there has been a lot of evidence presented that indicates that Lee Oswald never killed anybody on 11/22/63.....You, Billy Bob simply lack the balls or the brains to open your eyes to the evidence.

If one were to put a gun to your head, you'd admit fully that you believe Oswald murdered two people that day.

For once you are probably right Billy Bob......Very few people would refuse to say whatever a gun wielding nut would demand they should say.    This is the reason that torture is unreliable......

[Richard Smith]

Your strawmen are legendary, Richard.  Just to give you the most recent example, somebody asked how a ring in a cup is evidence of murder (short answer: it's not), and you go off on a rant about kooks thinking that conspirators planted a ring to incriminate Oswald.

Which is how you respond to every question about the reliability or relevance of things that are claimed to be evidence against Oswald.

Oswald's ring is probative of Oswald's guilt when viewed in context with the totality of evidence and circumstances.  That has been explained multiple times now.  The problem is not with the explanation (accepted by historians) but your dishonest approach to this case.  Attempting to set the ring apart from the totality of evidence against Oswald, as though it is a completely independent event of his other actions, is just an Internet kooks attempt to play defense attorney.  That is beyond my power to correct.

[John Iacoletti]

Yet, you've admitted to having no evidence which proves that someone other than Lee Oswald killed Kennedy or Tippit.

Or any good reason to believe that Oswald killed Kennedy or Tippit either.

  If one were to put a gun to your head, you'd admit fully that you believe Oswald murdered two people that day.

You're not any better at mindreading me than you are at mindreading Oswald.  But I'm not surprised that this is your MO, because your whole case relies on assumptions and speculation.

[John Iacoletti]

Oswald's ring is probative of Oswald's guilt when viewed in context with the totality of evidence and circumstances.  That has been explained multiple times now.

Repeating a fallacious argument over and over again doesn't make it sound.  The ring is probative of nothing.  It's padding your case with non-evidence.

  The problem is not with the explanation (accepted by historians) but your dishonest approach to this case.  Attempting to set the ring apart from the totality of evidence against Oswald, as though it is a completely independent event of his other actions, is just an Internet kooks attempt to play defense attorney.  That is beyond my power to correct.

No, it's an Internet kook's attempt to play prosecuting attorney:  assuming a causal effect between two events merely because you want there to be one, and attempting to use it as rhetoric to prop up a weak argument.

[John Iacoletti]

A ludicrous comparison but it highlights the lack of CTer logic.  You should be embarrassed.  What you and your dishonest sidekick are suggesting is that leaving a wedding ring with Marina was just a common, ordinary event.

You're the one who should be embarrassed.  Something doesn't automatically become relevant just because you think he killed somebody later.  Even if it's unusual behavior.  If Oswald had made decaf instant coffee that morning instead of regular would you also consider that "probative of guilt"?  Actually you probably would.

Your life insurance comparison is the ludicrous one.  A person directly benefits from a spouse's death if they take out a life insurance policy.  What does leaving a ring behind have to do with killing a president?  There's no connection whatsoever.  You're completely ignoring much more pertinent information that they had a fight and Marina refused to move back in with him.  And all because you want there to be more "evidence" than there actually is.

[Bill Brown]

Or any good reason to believe that Oswald killed Kennedy or Tippit either.

You're not any better at mindreading me than you are at mindreading Oswald.  But I'm not surprised that this is your MO, because your whole case relies on assumptions and speculation.

So, not a single piece of evidence showing where anyone other than Oswald killed Kennedy and/or Tippit.

[Jack Trojan]

So, not a single piece of evidence showing where anyone other than Oswald killed Kennedy and/or Tippit.

There's also no evidence that Santa Claus didn't wack JFK or Tippit. I guess Oswald must have done it then.