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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #378 on: July 01, 2018, 01:10:19 PM »
Also, Shelley's must be on the landing because of that shadow covering his eyes and yet there is nothing similar visable on Lovelady.
In the foootage posted by Chris that shows Fritz coming onto the scene we see the tallest cop only getting hit by shadow when he puts both feet on the landing

Exactly x2!  Thumb1:

Lovelady is one step down, then two steps down!

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #379 on: July 01, 2018, 01:18:25 PM »
Stancak's observation that Prayer Man's location poses a "tight geometric problem" also applies to any attempt to place him back at the glass door in the landing corner:



Far too much WALL! Far too much DISTANCE from right elbow to brickwork!



According to Stancak, placing Prayer Man with both feet ANYWHERE on the landing leads to an elbow-to-brickwork distance too great to be compatible with the Wiegman & Darnell images


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #380 on: July 01, 2018, 01:22:08 PM »
Question!

Why is Prayer Man's LEFT elbow so much higher in Darnell than in Wiegman?


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #381 on: July 01, 2018, 01:29:48 PM »
I'm pretty sure the man in black in Couch is not Bill Shelley but Danny Arce!


Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #382 on: July 01, 2018, 02:21:07 PM »
Question!

Why is Prayer Man's LEFT elbow so much higher in Darnell than in Wiegman?



Can' t tell about his left elbow, Alan,  but his right arm appears to be in the same position in both photos with the white spot looking like  the reflection from silver bracelet.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #383 on: July 01, 2018, 02:47:05 PM »
Can' t tell about his left elbow, Alan,  but his right arm appears to be in the same position in both photos with the white spot looking like  the reflection from silver bracelet.

Ray, both elbows are perceptibly lower in Wiegman than in Darnell, the left elbow more dramatically so! I doubt POV can account for this. Either Prayer Man is leaning forward in Wiegman or his arms are differently configured.



Try standing straight with hands in 'prayer' position and, without moving the rest of your body, lowering your left elbow as much as we see in Wiegman. But make sure to have an orthopedist's number handy first!!

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #384 on: July 01, 2018, 03:27:08 PM »
Ray, both elbows are perceptibly lower in Wiegman than in Darnell, the left elbow more dramatically so! I doubt POV can account for this. Either Prayer Man is leaning forward in Wiegman or his arms are differently configured.



Try standing straight with hands in 'prayer' position and, without moving the rest of your body, lowering your left elbow as much as we see in Wiegman. But make sure to have an orthopedist's number handy first!!

Despite trying very hard, I can't actually see the left elbow in the first frame despite adjusting the contrast etc.