Prayer Woman

[Duncan MacRae]

Brian,

Thanks for messaging me on Facebook with information that Wanda, the relative of Sarah Stanton said "no, it isn't her grand mother...Wanda said "she is too thin, too old, has dark hair, and is out there at a time that is too late to be Sarah...Not Sarah" she says...

I look forward to hearing your recorded conversation with her, without leading questions, as requested by myself on this Forum, for verification purposes.

[Larry Trotter]

Quote by Trotter
"It appears to me that the sunlight angles are important to someone wishing to qualify mannequin placement on a virtual landing/stairway portal. But, azimuth calculations are trivial to most of us that study the reliable provable evidence indicative of said portal occupants as the area was filmed. To state Stancek has "the shadows exactly right in his creations", can only be a conclusion, nothing more. I certainly question his "insertions" of images, especially those not seen otherwise, and as well his "to scale measurements".
And, I do not recall ever stating that sunlight origin calculations had no bearing on shadow length and/or shadow angle. What I have not seen is,[sic] any calculations allowing for the angle of the TSBD Building and/or entrance portal.
Most important though, when you say that if I can't see something you state, you can't be bothered anymore, and "It's like casting pearls before swine", tell me, exactly what are you saying? Are you indicating something negative about my character?"

You confirm above that  you said that the subject of the angle of the sun's shadows was trivial.

The expression "casting pearls before swine" means to offer something valuable or good to someone who does not know its value.

I can assure you that I understood the expressed meaning of your, beyond doubt, insulting of another forum member statement, "casting pearls before swine".
Exactly what, MrRayMitcham, uh sir, is your problem with, "What I have not seen is, any calculations allowing for the angle of the TSBD Building and/or entrance portal"? Even I can look at a map and see that it doesn't face due south, and is at a similar angle as Old Elm St, but appears to be, without measurement, facing about 165? south. In any event, any virtual entrance portal using a male mannequin in the estimated place of PrayerPersonImage, lacks meaningful credibility, at least to me. For that reason, I have not, and will not, rely on the virtual entrance portal information and mannequin placement. Therefor, I pay very little attention to the, uh, gentleman's efforts, and if said angle was mentioned during measurement discussions on this forum, I did not see the discussion and/or angle measurement factor inclusive comment.
Certainly, when you, uh MrRayMitcham, uh, sir, repeat something I said, without providing the complete statement with context meaning, your "repeat" is without honesty and truthfulness.
Certainly, I am sure you undoubtedly meant to indicate and insult me, but perhaps a look in the mirror would be appropriate prior offering another forum member insult like, "casting pearls before swine".

[Alan Ford]

Another very helpful image, Mr Hackerott! 

Off-topic from radiator but important nonetheless!:

Placement of Prayer Man-------------



One of the points Stancak keeps hammering home is the position of PM's right elbow
-------------short gap (from Wiegman/Darnell POV) between it and brickwork section beside white pillar



Stancak argues that "Prayer Man's location in Darnell is a tight geometric problem which has only one solution"
------------and that having him on the landing simply doesn't work because it pushes the right elbow too far from the brickwork section.

Your thoughts on this appreciated!

[Chris Davidson]

Scaled to fit previous Darnell LOS designation:
Radiator would probably reside somewhat higher than it appears on the superimposed Darnell frame. Imo

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Xr7FEvgosjYZ4kEu70xWXn7bO_PQvLr5/view?usp=sharing

[Alan Ford]

Friends, it's possible, of course, that the excellent Stancak has found the solution to Prayer Man's location but that his suggested posture of left knee bent up a step------------



-------------is incorrect.

Prayer Man's upper body could be exactly as Stancak proposes, and his right leg could be on the first step down as Stancak proposes, BUT
---------------his left knee could be bent beneath him, allowing the ball of his left foot to rest on the landing
OR
---------------his left leg could be crossed over his right leg, allowing the ball of his left foot to rest on the first step down.

Try standing on a stairs like this, folks. I have just done so and they're both perfectly natural and easy postures, allowing one to lean in comfortably to the right hip. No health & safety issues raised!

[Alan Ford]

[Alan Ford]

I quite like Sean Murphy's suggestion
------------part-eaten apple in right hand, coke in left

Would explain the curious 'praying' hands that stop praying when he raises the white object to his mouth!



On an entirely unrelated note, LHO told Fritz he had an apple, cheese sandwich & coke for lunch...