Mark Lane and Charles Brehm

[John Corbett]

Having heard Oswald's first, missing everything shot at "Z-124" (half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133), Glenn Bennett started leaning to his right to see if JFK was okay and George Hickey leaned over and started looking at the pavement.

I don't know how you can say the first shot missed at theoretical Z-124. What evidence is there that places a shot at that time. Seems like pure speculation to me. I've seen the arguments for the first shot being fired prior to Z133 and I remain unimpressed by them. We have no definitive evidence for the time of that first shot but there are clues. JBC turning to look over his right shoulder beginning at Z164 seems like a good place to start. It fits with his testimony that he looked over his right shoulder upon hearing what he recognized as a rifle shot. What we don't know is how quickly he reacted. It's not like his reflexive arm flip which began at Z226. Reflexive responses are involuntary and almost immediate. I believe Dale Meyers posited a shot at Z160. That would require a fairly rapid reaction from Connally. Remember too that the sound of the bullet would take a couple frames to reach his ears after the shot was fired. The bullet would arrive before the sound. To me the best clue as to the time of the first shot is the jiggle of Zapruder's camera. The jiggle following the headshot occurred at Z318. It would have taken roughly 2.5 Z-frames for the bullet to cover the 88 yards from the rifle to JFK's head. That means a bullet impacting at Z313 would have been fired at Z310 or Z311.  Since the distance from Oswald's rifle to Zapruder's ears would be a constant for all three shots, we should expect a similar lag between the shot being fired and Zapruder jiggling his camera. There is also a jiggle at Z227 which would indicated a shot fired Z220 or Z221. Most likely Z221.  There is a definite jiggle at Z158. If that jiggle is in response to a gunshot from Oswald's rifle, that would indicate a shot fired at Z151 or Z152. Is that definitive proof of a shot at that timeframe. Of course not, but to me it is the best evidence for. when the first shot was fired. Until someone offers a more compelling argument. that is what I believe. Is it possible that the Z158 jiggle is not a reaction to a gunshot and the first shot was fired earlier, even before Zapruder resumed filming. Of course it is theoretically possible but a shot fired in the Z152-153 time frame fits with everything else we have available.

[Royell Storing]

  The Zapruder camera "jiggle" being used to indicate a shot being fired is indicative of desperation. Zapruder had balance issues.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

No, not true. Go read my post. Lane asked him exactly where the shots came from, and he cut out the answer.
fred

Yes. Brehm said many times that he thort the shots came from X or Y.
But hav a closer look at his wordage. Only once did he ever say where he heard the shots coming from. And that was from a building that was not the TSBD.
In fact Brehm explains this himself.... he explains that he heard the shots coming from a building but that he formed the opinion that they came from the TSBD.

[John Corbett]

Every jiggle is not proof of a gunshot but every gunshot will be followed by a jiggle. This was established back in the 1960s during the filming of hunting shows. Even thought the cameramen knew shots were going to be fired, they couldn't hold their camera steady immediately following the shots.

We have solid evidence of when the two shots were fired that struck JFK and we can see camera jiggles about 1/3 second after those shots were fired.  I have not claimed that the Z158 jiggle is proof positive of a gunshot 1/3 second before, but given that it preceded Connally's visible reaction at Z164 when he began to turn to look over his right shoulder, it is a strong indication. It is possible the shot was fired earlier but that would have us believe Connally reacted very slowly to the first shot. So did Rosemary Willis. I find it far more likely that the shot was fired at or about Z152. It's the best fit for the reactions of Connally and Willis.

[Duncan MacRae]

Every jiggle is not proof of a gunshot but every gunshot will be followed by a jiggle.

[Tom Graves]

Zapruder didn't resume filming until Z-133 (after a 17-second pause), so he missed Oswald's first shot half-a-second earlier.

[Royell Storing]

Every jiggle is not proof of a gunshot but every gunshot will be followed by a jiggle. This was established back in the 1960s during the filming of hunting shows. Even thought the cameramen knew shots were going to be fired, they couldn't hold their camera steady immediately following the shots.

We have solid evidence of when the two shots were fired that struck JFK and we can see camera jiggles about 1/3 second after those shots were fired.  I have not claimed that the Z158 jiggle is proof positive of a gunshot 1/3 second before, but given that it preceded Connally's visible reaction at Z164 when he began to turn to look over his right shoulder, it is a strong indication. It is possible the shot was fired earlier but that would have us believe Connally reacted very slowly to the first shot. So did Rosemary Willis. I find it far more likely that the shot was fired at or about Z152. It's the best fit for the reactions of Connally and Willis.

   Yeah, those "hunting shows" are bona fide Proof. Admitted as "evidence" in courtrooms across the USA. Coupled with the alleged "Jiggle" from a man with admitted balance issues, you gotta "slam dunk" going here. Proffering this kinda stuff is indicative of just how weak of a case that you got going.