The JFKA and Gilberto Policarpo Lopez

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Online Tom Graves

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Re: The JFKA and Gilberto Policarpo Lopez
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2026, 11:48:47 AM »
On Nov. 27, Lopez entered Cuban on a "Cuban courtesy visa."

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"In 1963, a Cuban "courtesy visa" was a specific type of travel document, likely granted by Cuban authorities, used by individuals like operative Gilberto Lopez to enter Cuba from Mexico, possibly to facilitate intelligence work or specific missions, operating outside normal tourist channels due to the U.S. embargo and severed diplomatic ties, allowing agents to move covertly for political reasons."

All of this sounds fishy to me.

Fishy?

Wowie zowie!

Offline Fred Litwin

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Re: The JFKA and Gilberto Policarpo Lopez
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2026, 03:09:20 PM »
I posted the link that it was a cargo plane, and It was probably not unusual for Cubana airlines.

I don't think he faked epilectic fits, and he was hospitalized in florida. His wife never said he faked stuff. I don't believe any of this.

There is nothing to see here, guys.

fred

Offline Fred Litwin

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Re: The JFKA and Gilberto Policarpo Lopez
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2026, 03:16:59 PM »
And how old was his daughter in 1963?

Online Tom Graves

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Re: The JFKA and Gilberto Policarpo Lopez
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2026, 09:53:14 PM »
And how old was his daughter in 1963?

Dear Fred,

If you'd read our email exchanges, you'd know that she said she was eighteen years old when he moved his family to the U.S. in 1995, which means she hadn't been born yet in 1963.

Does that matter somehow?

-- Tom

PS Thanks for confirming that he flew from Mexico City to Havana on a cargo plane

Online Tom Graves

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Re: The JFKA and Gilberto Policarpo Lopez
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2026, 10:04:33 PM »

I don't believe any of this.

There is nothing to see here, guys.


Dear Fred,

That's your precious opinion.

Don't get all huffy, now.

-- Tom
« Last Edit: January 06, 2026, 10:24:41 PM by Tom Graves »

Offline Fred Litwin

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Re: The JFKA and Gilberto Policarpo Lopez
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2026, 01:10:26 AM »
Yes, it matters. She has no idea how sick Gilberto was in 1963.

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Online Benjamin Cole

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Re: The JFKA and Gilberto Policarpo Lopez
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2026, 01:21:26 AM »
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/180-10141-10498.pdf

Cubana Airlines flight 465 on Nov. 27.


Cubana Airlines Flight 465 on November 27, 1963, was technically a passenger plane that was primarily carrying cargo on that specific return flight.

Investigation records from the National Archives clarify the nature of this flight:

Capacity: All Cubana flights to Mexico City at that time were capable of carrying passengers.

Specific Load: On November 27, 1963, the flight arriving in Mexico City carried 75 passengers. However, the return flight to Havana departed with only one passenger (identified as Gilberto Lopez) and what was described as a "plane load of cargo," including automobile parts, food, and medicine.

Context: Because some return flights from Mexico City to Havana were used extensively for shipping supplies to Cuba, they were occasionally characterized as being "basically cargo" flights even though they remained passenger-capable aircraft with a crew of nine.

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This seems like "something to see."

Lopez was a US citizen. US citizens had trouble visiting Cuba, usually requiring special arrangements.

But Lopez just ad-hoc hopped on a plane in MC and made it to Havana? As the only passenger? And they held up the flight for him?

You might need to re-think this one, without your premises as blinders.