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Offline Sean Kneringer

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2018, 01:15:38 AM »
How can you be sure that Oswald even knew that the president was shot?

Why else would he leave work early? He wasn't curious as to why a police officer was 1) in the building and 2) pointing a gun at him?

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2018, 01:15:59 AM »
He did not have any chance of shooting his way out of Dealey Plaza, so he did not bring a gun.

He did not bring a gun.  Thanks Joe -- welcome to the dark side! :)

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2018, 01:17:13 AM »
Why else would he leave work early? He wasn't curious as to why a police officer was 1) in the building and 2) pointing a gun at him?

He did not believe that there was going to be any more work that day?

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2018, 01:17:22 AM »
He recanted his ID of Ozzie.

Did he now? I'll wait to see what Mr Iacoletti has to say about that before I offer my own thoughts on it.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2018, 01:20:11 AM »
The bus driver identified Oswald in the line-up on Nov 22 as the man on his bus who was grinning about the President being shot.

Except the grinning man was Milton Jones.

Mr. BALL - Let me ask you this, though. Did you tell them the man, the smaller man, you saw in the lineup, did you tell them that you thought he was the man who got off your bus and got the transfer or the man who was on the bus who was the teenager who was grinning?
Mr. McWATTERS - Well, I really thought he was the man who was on the bus.
Mr. BALL - That stayed on the bus?
Mr. McWATTERS - That stayed on the bus.
Mr. BALL - And you didn't think he was the man who got off the bus and to whom you gave a transfer?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2018, 01:22:32 AM »
http://www.differencebetween.net/object/difference-between-gun-and-rifle/

Cool!

Mr. BRENNAN. Well, as it appeared to me he was standing up and resting against the left window sill, with gun shouldered to his right shoulder, holding the gun with his left hand and taking positive aim and fired his last shot. As I calculate a couple of seconds. He drew the gun back from the window as though he was drawing it back to his side and maybe paused for another second as though to assure hisself that he hit his mark, and then he disappeared.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2018, 01:25:30 AM »
...and while we're at it:

https://wikidiff.com/pistol/revolver

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2018, 01:25:30 AM »

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2018, 01:26:18 AM »


Lee never did anything to arouse any suspicion, in either Officer Baker nor Mr Truly. Mr Truly can not explain what made him single out Lee. How did Mr Truly know that Dougherty, alone on an upper floor, wasn't the assassin or a co conspirator?



You are in denial. Of course Mr. Truly is going to focus on Oswald.

How could Mr. Truly know that Oswald (I see you are on a first name basis with the creep) did not do anything to arouse suspicion? Truly didn?t initially see Oswald as he was going up the stairs. Only Officer Baker did.

How does he know what Officer Baker saw after Mr. Truly started up the next flight of stairs?

All Mr. Truly knew is:

1.   A rifle was found in the building, meaning one of his employees may have been the shooter.

2.   Mr. Truly vouched for one of his employees who was being held at gunpoint by a police officer. For all Mr. Truly knew, he may have helped the assassin make his getaway.

And on top of that, Mr. Truly does not recall seeing Oswald after that. Naturally he is going to focus on Oswald until he can learn whether Oswald is still in the building or not. If Oswald is still there, he can focus on other employees. Or relax a bit and let the police handle it. But until then, he is going to do everything he can to compensate for a possible error in vouching for Oswald.

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2018, 01:29:48 AM »
Except the grinning man was Milton Jones.

Mr. BALL - Let me ask you this, though. Did you tell them the man, the smaller man, you saw in the lineup, did you tell them that you thought he was the man who got off your bus and got the transfer or the man who was on the bus who was the teenager who was grinning?
Mr. McWATTERS - Well, I really thought he was the man who was on the bus.
Mr. BALL - That stayed on the bus?
Mr. McWATTERS - That stayed on the bus.
Mr. BALL - And you didn't think he was the man who got off the bus and to whom you gave a transfer?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.

He picked Oswald out of a line-up as having been a passenger on his bus. You're saying that what he said during the lineup and his signed affidavit should be disregarded in favor of what he said during his WC testimony?
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