Two Wallets? Nope.

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #147 on: May 05, 2025, 10:38:15 PM »
The contrarian mind is quite amusing.  Here it is suggested that Nostradamus-like vision is necessary to suggest what the police would have done following the discovery of a discarded wallet at the scene of a police officer shooting.  HA HA HA.  A discarded wallet at the scene of a cop murder on the street would be highly suspicious.   The police would have every reason to suspect that the owner of the wallet was connected to the crime absent an amazing coincidence that some innocent person had lost their wallet that day at the very scene of the crime and no one else had bothered to pick it up.  It had just laid there in in the open until the crime was committed.  Ironically, the CTer theory that the wallet was planted to frame Oswald is entirely consistent with the conclusion that the police would have cause to believe the wallet's owner was connected to the crime.  And what would the police do upon discovering the identity of a potential cop killing suspect?   We don't need Sherlock Holmes or ESP.  The police would immediately have radioed out the name and description of a potentially dangerous killer on the loose.  That didn't happen.  That sinks the battleship of loony contrarians.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #148 on: May 05, 2025, 10:50:56 PM »
You can't possibly be this stupid, oh hang on, Hahahaha...

Apparently Gus Rose was possibly that stupid then.

Mr. ROSE. No; he didn't, not right then--he did later. In a minute--I found two cards--I found a card that said "A. Hidell." And I found another card that said "Lee Oswald" on it, and I asked him which of the two was his correct name. He wouldn't tell me at the time, he just said, "You find out."

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Oswald's wallet contents with Oswald's name;

1. Oswald's Selective service card
2. Oswald's Social Security card
3. Oswald's Department of Defence Identification
4. Oswald's Certificate of Services in Armed Forces of United States
5. Oswald's U.S. Forces Japanese Identification card
6. Oswald's Fair Play for Cuba "New Orleans Chapter
7. Oswald's Fair Play for Cuba Committee
8. Oswald's Library card
9. Oswald's Local Board 114 Fort Worth
10. Oswald's VERY FAKE LOOKING Hidell I.D.

Do the Math! LOLOLOLO!

Cool story, bro.  But I'm more interested in the "Oswald's wallet" that Rose looked at and the "Oswald's wallet" that Bentley looked at.

"I asked for his name. He refused to give me his name. I removed his wallet from his back pocket and obtained his identification, and also asked him if he was still living at the Elsberry address and he says, well you find out for yourself."

"What kind of identification did he have?"

"The card that I got this information from was the Dallas Public Library Card. He had other identifications such as driver's license, I believe and credit cards and things like that."


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #149 on: May 05, 2025, 10:52:50 PM »
Seriously, since day one ALL the evidence pointed to Oswald

LOL.

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Oswald's rifle.
Oswald's immediate flight from the scene of the crime.
Oswald while in flight, killed a Police Officer.
Oswald resisted arrest and tried to kill more Police with the same weapon linked to the Tippit crime scene.
Oswald's repeated lies while being interrogated.
Oswald's attempted assassination of General Walker.

Claims aren't evidence.  Next?
« Last Edit: May 05, 2025, 11:12:31 PM by John Iacoletti »

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #150 on: May 05, 2025, 10:56:52 PM »
I'm not saying that it is Tippit's citation book.  Maybe the police did, for some inexplicable reason, flip through a witness wallet. We don't have enough information to reach a conclusion.

Oh, please.  You are the king of reaching conclusions without enough information.  Why stop now?

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« Reply #151 on: May 05, 2025, 11:05:34 PM »
So almost a dozen civilians would send an innocent man to certain death, seriously? Could you be tricked into giving false evidence?

People are easily manipulated by authority figures.  Look at yourself, for example.

P.S. "almost a dozen".  LOL.

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McDonald took the revolver from Oswald.
McDonald gave the revolver to Carroll.
Carroll gave the revolver to Hill.
Hill kept the revolver on his person till he put his name on it.

Cool story, bro.  Is that supposed to be a documented and controlled chain of custody?

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« Reply #152 on: May 05, 2025, 11:08:18 PM »
Elmer L Boyd sure looks like an Honest Cop.

Well, I guess that settles it!


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Re: Two Wallets? Nope.
« Reply #153 on: May 05, 2025, 11:11:30 PM »
The contrarian mind is quite amusing.  Here it is suggested that Nostradamus-like vision is necessary to suggest what the police would have done following the discovery of a discarded wallet at the scene of a police officer shooting.  HA HA HA.  A discarded wallet at the scene of a cop murder on the street would be highly suspicious.   The police would have every reason to suspect that the owner of the wallet was connected to the crime absent an amazing coincidence that some innocent person had lost their wallet that day at the very scene of the crime and no one else had bothered to pick it up.  It had just laid there in in the open until the crime was committed.  Ironically, the CTer theory that the wallet was planted to frame Oswald is entirely consistent with the conclusion that the police would have cause to believe the wallet's owner was connected to the crime.  And what would the police do upon discovering the identity of a potential cop killing suspect?   We don't need Sherlock Holmes or ESP.  The police would immediately have radioed out the name and description of a potentially dangerous killer on the loose.  That didn't happen.  That sinks the battleship of loony contrarians.

What is quite amusing (and frankly, sad) is your inability to distinguish fantasy from reality.