Two Wallets? Nope.

[John Mytton]

Duh!  How would he be able to determine that from the wallet if it really contained both names?

Not surprised that this sailed right over your head though.

You can't possibly be this stupid, oh hang on, Hahahaha...

Oswald's wallet contents with Oswald's name;

1. Oswald's Selective service card
2. Oswald's Social Security card
3. Oswald's Department of Defence Identification
4. Oswald's Certificate of Services in Armed Forces of United States
5. Oswald's U.S. Forces Japanese Identification card
6. Oswald's Fair Play for Cuba "New Orleans Chapter
7. Oswald's Fair Play for Cuba Committee
8. Oswald's Library card
9. Oswald's Local Board 114 Fort Worth
10. Oswald's VERY FAKE LOOKING Hidell I.D.

Do the Math! LOLOLOLO!





JohnM

[Michael Capasse]

You can't possibly be this stupid, oh hang on, Hahahaha...

Oswald's wallet contents with Oswald's name;

1. Oswald's Selective service card
2. Oswald's Social Security card
3. Oswald's Department of Defence Identification
4. Oswald's Certificate of Services in Armed Forces of United States
5. Oswald's U.S. Forces Japanese Identification card
6. Oswald's Fair Play for Cuba "New Orleans Chapter
7. Oswald's Fair Play for Cuba Committee
8. Oswald's Library card
9. Oswald's Local Board 114 Fort Worth
10. Oswald's VERY FAKE LOOKING Hidell I.D.

Do the Math! LOLOLOLO!





JohnM

Who's list is that?

[Martin Weidmann]

This is very simple.  Any wallet found discarded at the scene of a police shooting would be suspicious and likely linked to the murder.  Ironically, even CTers accept this by implication by suggesting it was planted exactly for that purpose.  The police would immediately have radioed in the identity of any persons associated with such a wallet as a potential suspect.  We know that didn't happen.  That tells us what they were not looking at.  Any wallet found at the scene.   What exactly it is then narrows down to Tippit's citation book or the wallet of some witness.  Of those two, it seems much more likely that they would look through it in that manner as Tippit's citation book.  A witness likely just shows them their ID instead of handing it to the police to flip through.   Does anyone know if and where Tippit's citation book for writing tickets was found or left?  I assume it would still be in his car after his murder.

Any wallet found discarded at the scene of a police shooting would be suspicious and likely linked to the murder.

Of course, but would it be sufficient to jump to the conclusion that it must belong to the killer and not some bystander?

Ironically, even CTers accept this by implication by suggesting it was planted exactly for that purpose.

There is no implication. It is indeed possible that it was planted for that purpose.

The police would immediately have radioed in the identity of any persons associated with such a wallet as a potential suspect.  We know that didn't happen.  That tells us what they were not looking at. Any wallet found at the scene.

And there is the strawman. You have no idea what the police would have done!

What exactly it is then narrows down to Tippit's citation book or the wallet of some witness.

Too bad that the television crew who filmed it said it was a wallet and so did FBI agent Barrett and officer Croy, who found it.

Of those two, it seems much more likely that they would look through it in that manner as Tippit's citation book.

Speculation, proven wrong by witnesses saying it was a wallet

A witness likely just shows them their ID instead of handing it to the police to flip through.

Why would a witness show them their ID? The killer had left the scene. There is no purpose to ask for an ID of some bystander still at the scene.

[Martin Weidmann]

You can't possibly be this stupid, oh hang on, Hahahaha...

Oswald's wallet contents with Oswald's name;

1. Oswald's Selective service card
2. Oswald's Social Security card
3. Oswald's Department of Defence Identification
4. Oswald's Certificate of Services in Armed Forces of United States
5. Oswald's U.S. Forces Japanese Identification card
6. Oswald's Fair Play for Cuba "New Orleans Chapter
7. Oswald's Fair Play for Cuba Committee
8. Oswald's Library card
9. Oswald's Local Board 114 Fort Worth
10. Oswald's VERY FAKE LOOKING Hidell I.D.

Do the Math! LOLOLOLO!

JohnM

Oswald's wallet contents with Oswald's name;

And you know that's Oswald's wallet? How?

Btw is it the one Bentley took from him in the car or the one found at the Tippit scene?

[John Mytton]

If only it were just Katzenbach.

"The thing I am concerned about, and so is Mr. Katzenbach, is having something issued so we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin." - J. Edgar Hoover, 11/24/1963

Consequently, the WC started with a predetermined conclusion.  The outline that Rankin presented in a January 11, 1964 memo had a section titled "Lee Harvey Oswald as the assassin of President Kennedy".  This was before they took a single bit of testimony.

Seriously, since day one ALL the evidence pointed to Oswald and the fact that no one was there to help Oswald escape and there was no evidence Oswald had any co-conspirators is proof that Oswald the Lone Nut simply acted alone. And guess what Iacoletti, in the 60+ years since, these facts are still the only evidence in this case! LOL!

Oswald's rifle.
Oswald's immediate flight from the scene of the crime.
Oswald while in flight, killed a Police Officer.
Oswald resisted arrest and tried to kill more Police with the same weapon linked to the Tippit crime scene.
Oswald's repeated lies while being interrogated.
Oswald's attempted assassination of General Walker.
Etc Etc...

JohnM

[Richard Smith]

What happened to Tippit's citation book?  If he didn't have one or it can be accounted for in some other way is the only way to eliminate it as the object being flipped through by the police.  Otherwise it makes sense that the police would be holding it and looking through it in the way depicted to determine if perhaps Tippit wrote down anything that might assist them like the identity or the license plate of the last person he encountered.

[Martin Weidmann]

What happened to Tippit's citation book?  If he didn't have one or it can be accounted for in some other way is the only way to eliminate it as the object being flipped through by the police.  Otherwise it makes sense that the police would be holding it and looking through it in the way depicted to determine if perhaps Tippit wrote down anything that might assist them like the identity or the license plate of the last person he encountered.

Does it also make sense that Tippit's citation book (if that's what it was) would be handed over to a civilian, as John Mytton suggests.

The most likely scenario imo is that the wallet was being looked at legitimately and also as a bit of a show for the TV camera and thus the cop is a bit flippant with the direction of his gun but when the civilian is given his wallet back, the cop responds correctly by diverting the aim of the gun and away from the direction of this civilian.

BTW, I posted this theory on the old Forum and Gary Mack who became a wise wizard, sent me a PM endorsing my theory.

JohnM

[Richard Smith]

I'm just attempting to apply common sense to what is being shown.  Why would a witness hand their wallet to the police who would flip through it like that?  What exactly would he be looking for?   Why wouldn't the officer just ask the witness to show him an ID whatever he is looking for in the wallet instead of trying to find it himself?  At most, the police would want a name/address of a witness.  Why not just ask them to identify themselves instead of taking their wallet and looking through it?  If, however, it is Tippit's citation book, the officer would flip through it looking for any indication of who Tippit last encountered.  A license plate number or name.  That makes some sense. 

What can be ruled out is that the police found a discarded wallet at the scene of the murder and never even bothered to radio the identity of a potential suspect.  That makes absolutely no sense.  But then it gets even worse.  We are supposed to entertain the possibility that someone planted a wallet to link Oswald to the Tippit murder but then didn't anticipate that Oswald would have his real wallet upon arrest.  Oops.  And instead of doing the obvious thing in suppressing the wallet found on Oswald's person, they suppress the much more highly incriminatory wallet that they have taken the time and risk to plant at the crime scene.  HA HA HA.  Even the most dense and biased CT should be able to see the lunacy of that scenario.

I'm not saying that it is Tippit's citation book.  Maybe the police did, for some inexplicable reason, flip through a witness wallet. We don't have enough information to reach a conclusion.  The citation book just makes more sense of what is depicted until that possibility is eliminated.  For example, by accounting for the citation book in some other manner.  It seems odd that it is never mentioned.  Even without the "wallet" story, it would make sense to look at Tippit's citation book to see what, if anything, he wrote for his last encounter that day.