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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald fingerprints on the live shell?
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2018, 03:37:02 PM »
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It wasn't possible. It never happened. The palm print was lifted off of the barrel by Carl Day on Nov 22.

Of course it was.  He just forgot to photograph it or tell anybody about it on Nov 22.

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Re: Oswald fingerprints on the live shell?
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2018, 05:58:11 PM »
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I guess I should have looked this ahead of time:
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Mr. DAY. That is the live round that fell from the rifle when Captain Fritz opened the bolt.
Mr. BELIN. What did you do with this after you put your name on it?
Mr. DAY. Captain Fritz took possession of it. I retained possession of the rifle.
Mr. BELIN. Did you process this live round at all for prints?
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir; I did. I did not find any prints.

How is this possible?

Mr. BELIN. How did you try to process the live round for prints?
Mr. DAY. With black fingerprint powder.

Mr. DAY. After ejecting the live round, then I gave my attention to the rifle.

When was this live round dusted for prints?
In his Report, Day wrote:

Mr. DAY. "When bolt opened one live round was in the barrel. No prints are on the live round. Captain Fritz and Lieutenant Day opened the barrel. Captain Fritz has the live round.

So, neither Oswald's, nor Fritz's prints were on the live round.

How did Fritz handle this piece of evidence? Did he put it in an evidence bag? Did he put it in his pocket?


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I remember reading the affidavit of someone who was there ( possibly Weitzman?) who said that the live round fell out at Captain Friz feet , and he simply picked it up and put it in his pocket.

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Re: Oswald fingerprints on the live shell?
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2018, 01:23:21 PM »
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Sure it was. Now, where is your evidence for this claim?

Day lifted the smudge that he imagined might be a palm print "off underside gun barrell (sic) near end of forgrip " C2766) when he was dusting the rifle for prints on the sixth floor at about 1:45 that afternoon.   Tom Alyea was right there watching and he witnessed Day lift that smudge and place it on the 3" X 5" white card that is now CE 634.

The story of disassembling the rifle and finding a palm print on the 5/8" diameter barrel is simply BS.

Day lifted the smudge from he WOODEN foregrip ....That foregrip has a bayonet slot cut into the wood to allow the bayonet blade to be folded back into that slot .  The slot is visible in the photo CE 634.....

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Re: Oswald fingerprints on the live shell?
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2018, 04:56:04 PM »
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Where is your supporting evidence for these claims?

Rob, You've been around long enough to know the facts.....If you don't know that I'm posting the truth, then  nothing I post will help you....

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Re: Oswald fingerprints on the live shell?
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2018, 08:40:31 PM »
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Were Lee Harvey Oswald's fingerprints - more specfically his thumbprint - found on the live shell in the chamber of the rifle that was found?

I don't know if fingerprints on a shell are obliterated by the act of firing the gun, but they should still be on the unfired bullet wouldn't they? I don't know much about loading bullets into a clip, but don't you have to press down on the bullet to get it into the clip?
Wouldn't his thumprint still be on it?

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Re: Oswald fingerprints on the live shell?
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2018, 05:09:24 AM »
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There were also no fingerprints of LHO on the wall, window ledge, the pipe near the window or floor. How is that possible?

What were the extent of LHO's prints on the 6th floor? He should have had his prints all over it including the boxes near the SN and the door handles. If his prints were not on the door handles, then he was either wearing gloves or else he wasn't there. No gloves were found.

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Re: Oswald fingerprints on the live shell?
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2018, 05:17:17 AM »
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What were the extent of LHO's prints on the 6th floor? He should have had his prints all over it including the boxes near the SN and the door handles. If his prints were not on the door handles, then he was either wearing gloves or else he wasn't there. No gloves were found.

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A great summary here

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Re: Oswald fingerprints on the live shell?
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2018, 12:35:25 PM »
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A great summary here

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"The Dallas police and the FBI discovered Oswald’s prints on some of the cartons and on the rifle,"

This opening sentence of the article is inaccurate .....

Lee Oswald's prints were NOT on the rifle......

The authorities have lied and fabricated a tale that the smudge on the foregrip "Off underside gun Barrell near end of foregrip  c 2766" was Lee Oswald's   palm print.....   What the "experts" have lead the suckers to believe is that the unidentifiable smudge the Day lifted from the rifle is in fact Lee Oswald's palm print.   They have constructed a ridiculous tale about detective Day disassembling the rifle and finding a man's palm print on a surface that is too small to hold a man's palm print.  ( a 5/8' diameter barrel which is the diameter of a AA penlight battery)  And  The FBI lab could find no evidence that the barrel of the rifle beneath the foregrip had ever been processed with finger print powder.

When oh when are students going to wake up and realize the truth?

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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2018, 03:12:50 PM »
 Are we to assume parts of the FBI were actually objectively investigating, or was it all a game of cat and mouse, power and blackmail?
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2018, 03:44:24 PM »
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Are we to assume parts of the FBI were actually objectively investigating, or was it all a game of cat and mouse, power and blackmail?

Not every FBI agent was crooked or involved with the cover up....As a matter of fact very few FBI agents were Hoover's "Extra Special" Special agents.    BUT....  J.Edgar Hoover ruled with an iron fist....   And every FBI agent knew that he would have to "toe the mark" drawn by Hoover or else....

Just as most German officers did not subscribe to Hitler's insane ideas...they knew that if they didn't "toe the line" drawn by Hitler they would pay the price.....

IOW....Hoover played the fiddle....and his FBI special agents either danced to Hoover's tune or else..... 
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