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Offline Patrick Davies

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Re: JFK Assassination computer analysis video!
« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2025, 12:20:49 PM »
In a debate, it's often said that when one resorts to negative, personal remarks, it's a sign their argument is weak. Let's keep the discussion focused on the ideas rather than personal comments.

I am happy to rephrase my explanation if you find it difficult to understand.

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Re: JFK Assassination computer analysis video!
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2025, 12:36:32 PM »
In a debate, it's often said that when one resorts to negative, personal remarks, it's a sign their argument is weak. Let's keep the discussion focused on the ideas rather than personal comments.

I am happy to rephrase my explanation if you find it difficult to understand.

I've expanded my previous post for you.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: JFK Assassination computer analysis video!
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2025, 12:39:41 PM »
I am happy to rephrase my explanation if you find it difficult to understand.

Not difficult, impossible,

So yeah, rephrase all of it.
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Offline Patrick Davies

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Re: JFK Assassination computer analysis video!
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2025, 02:01:30 PM »
Rephrasing:

It only takes a handful of those connected to the assassination who held material knowledge of the events died within a few years of the assassination to have been killed for the probability of a cover-up, implying a conspiracy, become extremely high.
 
If, out of a group of 50 people, 5 of them win the lottery in the same year, you can conclude that it is almost certain, beyond reasonable doubt, there is foul play. The fact that the other 45 do not win, does not alter this.

Considering the witnesses who did not die, one can assume that it was not necessary for them to be to killed. If all witnesses were, suspicions would be overwhelming and the scheme would collapse.

Mathematical consideration of probabilities prevents us jumping to conclusions – Just because something "feels" true doesn't mean it is. Probability helps us weigh different explanations and decide which is most likely, objectively. When we use logic, we rely on facts and structured arguments. This helps avoid emotional thinking and keeps discussions focused on evidence. This is how, for example and NTSB investigation would be run, where finding probable cause is crucial to future safety.

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Re: JFK Assassination computer analysis video!
« Reply #39 on: February 24, 2025, 03:41:31 PM »
Of all the kooky claims supporting a conspiracy, the "mysterious deaths" justification is among the most absurd.  Imagine the roving bands of death squads knocking people off left and right.  Sometimes years or even decades after the assassination.  Long after almost all of these people have told the authorities everything that they had to tell.  And the death squads add untold numbers of new conspirators to carry out these acts.  These people would then need to be silenced by someone else.  And on and on exponentially until there would be no one left to bury the dead. 
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Re: JFK Assassination computer analysis video!
« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2025, 03:50:45 PM »
Of all the kooky claims supporting a conspiracy, the "mysterious deaths" justification is among the most absurd.  Imagine the roving bands of deaths squads knocking people off left and right.  Sometimes years or even decades after the assassination.  Long after almost all of these people have told the authorities everything that they had to tell.  And the death squads add untold numbers of new conspirators to carry out these acts.  These people would then need to be silenced by someone else.  And on and on exponentially until there would be no one left to bury the dead.
This is like the US was/is a banana republic with groups vying for power killing one another. Presidents being assassinated in broad daylight with hundreds of people watching, witnesses killed, staged investigations led by corrupt judges and controlled media. It's the United States of Guatemala. Only this time secretly. I know we've got problems; the Establishment (such as it is) has been awful but this is really over the top.

In conspiracy world it's conspiracies all of the way down; that's how they explain what has happened since that day in Dallas. The claim isn't that 60 years ago a small group of rogue CIA agents with a handful of others, e.g., anti-Castro Cubans, mob types, conspired to kill JFK. And then the Warren Commission and others missed that act. Out of shoddiness or incompetence. Okay, that's plausible. The claim is that major elements of the CIA - from Angleton to others - conspired with other groups to kill JFK and then frame Oswald. Then the WC covered it up. Deliberately.

Then the news media covered it up. For more than half a century. The followup investigations have covered it up. Then people like Seymour Hersh and Tim Weiner have covered it up. It hasn't been incompetence; it's been a series of deliberate acts by multiple generations of Americans inside the government and out. Add to this mix of conspirators the roving death squads (Marina is still alive: I would think the conspirators would want her dead first? She could reveal how they forced her to testify against Oswald among other damaging revelations).

This is silly. You have to have a bizarre mindset to think this is possible. A Hitler or a Stalin couldn't do this and keep it quiet. But the US government with its bureaucracy and leaking and free press can do it? C'mon, this is a fantasy world.
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Offline Patrick Davies

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Re: JFK Assassination computer analysis video!
« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2025, 05:45:53 PM »
It was the computer model's main hypothesis; take it or leave it.  It's objectively pointing to a statistical anomaly. It's not based on subjectivity or opinion.
It will be interesting to see if anything of any importance comes to light when the last files are revealed... if they ever are!