A Rock Solid Alibi.....

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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #180 on: August 05, 2022, 02:59:29 PM »
There is absolutely nothing that precludes Oswald from being the shooter and being in the lunchroom within the relevant timeframe to encounter Baker.

This exactly what I was talking about. It has been explained to you over and over again and still you ignore the information and come up with the same bogus claim

How long do you think it takes to walk down a few floors of stairs?

You forgot the part where Oswald had to run in a straight line to the back of the building and then run the same distance from east to west to get to the stairs. Or are you under the impression that Oswald was standing next to the stairs entrance when the shots were fired?

You are really suggesting that the assassin hung around on the 6th floor and waited for law enforcement to arrive to somehow blend in!

I know by now that it's a difficult concept for you to grasp, but I am suggesting nothing. I'm merely considering possible options. Are you of the opinion that something like that could not have happened? Are you really so naive? Hiding in the open is very often the best option.

That is one of the most baseless and bizarre claims in history.  Not a single person ever claimed to have encountered this individual.

Here you go again.... Nobody claimed to have encountered Oswald on the 6th floor either. So what? The whole purpose of hiding in a crowd is not to get noticed.

Honestly, I would be embarrassed to peddle this weak nonsense.

As peddling weak nonsense goes, you should be embarrassed every day of the week, but being a Trump follower you probably won't as peddling nonsense is par for the course for that cult.

The same tired contrarian nonsense.  Going round and round in circles of rambling commentary, deflection, and insults.  You have suggested that Oswald couldn't get from the 6th floor to the lunchroom unnoticed.  When it was pointed out to you that SOMEONE on the 6th floor did escape unnoticed, you became hysterical suggesting the following as a possible explanation for why this fantasy person could do something that you claim Oswald could not:

"[Oswald] would not have had the luxury and ability of being able to hang around on the 6th floor and mingle with the many law enforcement officers that flooded the floor, pretending to be one of them and simply walking away. Oswald, or any other TSBD employee, on the 6th floor would have stood out in much the same way Oswald did to Baker on the 2nd floor."

This is one of the most baseless and laughable claims in the history of this forum.  There is zero evidence that anyone was found hanging around on the 6th floor claiming to be a law enforcement officer.  Baker and Truly did not encounter any such person when they arrived on the floor.   Don't you think someone might mention that they encountered on the floor from which the shots were fired?  You also suggest a complete stranger would be less noticeable than Oswald who was an employee of the TSBD.  Unreal.  It's understandable why you are running away from your own theory, suggestion, or whatever you are calling this baseless nonsense.  You should apologize to intelligent people on this forum for wasting their time. 

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« Reply #180 on: August 05, 2022, 02:59:29 PM »

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« Reply #181 on: August 05, 2022, 03:33:44 PM »
About 73 other people (besides LHO) worked in that building at that time. Not one of them said that they saw LHO at the time of the assassination. And, not one of them said that they were on the sixth floor at that time either. Is this just a coincidence or what?    ???

Amidst your usual nonsense, Mr Collins, you inadvertently stumble upon an extremely important point.

Mr Bonnie Ray Williams testified that several of the guys had agreed beforehand to watch the P. Parade from the sixth floor. And yet not a single one of them ended up watching the P. Parade from the sixth floor. Every other in-use floor in the building had employees at windows, yet not the sixth--which offered the best view of all. What an amazing stroke of luck for evil Mr Oswald!

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« Reply #182 on: August 05, 2022, 03:36:00 PM »

Compare that to the Oswald story, which has ZERO to substantiate it. It’s a constant source of amazement how omniscient Nutters think they are.
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More like... If you're suggesting a conspiracy then prove it, otherwise we will just have to rely on what we're told  :D

I have been trying to reconcile the location of the elevators up to and after the parade based on the description [which floor were they at] given by Roy Truly and the one given by James Jarman.

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« Reply #182 on: August 05, 2022, 03:36:00 PM »

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« Reply #183 on: August 05, 2022, 03:42:33 PM »
Amidst your usual nonsense, Mr Collins, you inadvertently stumble upon an extremely important point.

Mr Bonnie Ray Williams testified that several of the guys had agreed beforehand to watch the P. Parade from the sixth floor. And yet not a single one of them ended up watching the P. Parade from the sixth floor. Every other in-use floor in the building had employees at windows, yet not the sixth--which offered the best view of all. What an amazing stroke of luck for evil Mr Oswald!

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Again, why would this stroke of "luck" be limited to Oswald?  We know someone was on the 6th floor.  Witnesses saw a rifle pointed out the window at the moment of the assassination.  Whether that was Oswald or someone else, the "logic" of your post applies to whomever was there.  It isn't limited to Oswald.   It's amazing how Oswald is excluded from doing the very things they suggest could be done by others.   The fantasy conspirators apparently possessed some magical abilities that Oswald did not.  Although having no legitimate purpose for being in the TSBD (as Oswald did as an employee) they were able to enter the building unnoticed carrying a rifle, plant evidence on the 6th floor, and escape unnoticed.  All things we are told by CTers that Oswald couldn't have done.  It was apparently possible for others to do these things but not Oswald.
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« Reply #184 on: August 05, 2022, 03:49:45 PM »
I have been trying to reconcile the location of the elevators up to and after the parade based on the description [which floor were they at] given by Roy Truly and the one given by James Jarman.

Potentially very N.B.!



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« Reply #185 on: August 05, 2022, 03:55:25 PM »
Remember this one?----JohnM----
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1266.msg30340.html#msg30340

More like... If you're suggesting a conspiracy then prove it, otherwise we will just have to rely on what we're told  :D

I have been trying to reconcile the location of the elevators up to and after the parade based on the description [which floor were they at] given by Roy Truly and the one given by James Jarman.


Take a look at Jack Dougherty’s statement in CE-1381:


https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/pdf/WH22_CE_1381.pdf
 

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« Reply #186 on: August 05, 2022, 03:55:59 PM »
  Martin Weidmann on August 04, 2022, 08:25:45 PM---
   
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What capabilities of Oswald are you talking about and how do you know he had those capabilities in the first place?
His obvious physical fitness
He worked out?  :D

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« Reply #187 on: August 05, 2022, 04:03:04 PM »
Amidst your usual nonsense, Mr Collins, you inadvertently stumble upon an extremely important point.

Mr Bonnie Ray Williams testified that several of the guys had agreed beforehand to watch the P. Parade from the sixth floor. And yet not a single one of them ended up watching the P. Parade from the sixth floor. Every other in-use floor in the building had employees at windows, yet not the sixth--which offered the best view of all. What an amazing stroke of luck for evil Mr Oswald!

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The guys had just finished working on the fifth floor a few days beforehand. It isn’t surprising that they would choose to go there. The photos that I remember seeing of the fifth floor (when they posed for their positions for the investigators) showed a much less cluttered area. Perhaps that is one reason that they chose it? Anyway, yes it was a stroke of good luck for LHO. Glad we agree on something….   ;)

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« Reply #187 on: August 05, 2022, 04:03:04 PM »

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« Reply #188 on: August 05, 2022, 04:16:34 PM »

The guys had just finished working on the fifth floor a few days beforehand. It isn’t surprising that they would choose to go there. The photos that I remember seeing of the fifth floor (when they posed for their positions for the investigators) showed a much less cluttered area. Perhaps that is one reason that they chose it?

Definitely the reason. Next to impossible to get at one of those south-facing windows on the sixth floor---------



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« Reply #189 on: August 05, 2022, 04:25:50 PM »

Take a look at Jack Dougherty’s statement in CE-1381: https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/pdf/WH22_CE_1381.pdf
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At the time President Kennedy was shot I was at a
point about 10 feet from the elevator on the fifth floor of
the Texas School Book Depository Building. I was alone at
this time.
What about those guys hanging out at the SE corner....no one saw each other? It seems like there was some mystery fog everywhere at this time. Also...were there not 2 elevators...where was the other one?

 

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