A Rock Solid Alibi.....

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #189 on: August 05, 2022, 04:46:45 PM »
The same tired contrarian nonsense.  Going round and round in circles of rambling commentary, deflection, and insults.

That’s an accurate description of “Richard Smith”.

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There is zero evidence that anyone was found hanging around on the 6th floor claiming to be a law enforcement officer.

There is ZERO evidence that Oswald came bounding down the stairs within the first 75 seconds, but that doesn’t stop you from not only claiming it’s possible, but that it actually happened.

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You also suggest a complete stranger would be less noticeable than Oswald who was an employee of the TSBD.

When did Martin say anything about a “complete stranger”, Strawman “Smith”?

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #190 on: August 05, 2022, 04:57:35 PM »
Again, why would this stroke of "luck" be limited to Oswald?  We know someone was on the 6th floor.  Witnesses saw a rifle pointed out the window at the moment of the assassination.  Whether that was Oswald or someone else, the "logic" of your post applies to whomever was there. 

Oswald is the only one who is required to have done it on the back stairs within 75 seconds, when Adams and Styles were on the staircase and in view and earshot of Garner, Dougherty, and the three amigos.

That’s the difference that you keep ignoring. What the hell is wrong with you?
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Online Charles Collins

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #191 on: August 05, 2022, 05:01:58 PM »
Like where it says----
  What about those guys hanging out at the SE corner....no one saw each other? It seems like there was some mystery fog everywhere at this time. Also...were there not 2 elevators...where was the other one?

I tried to help you. You are welcome.

Online Charles Collins

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #192 on: August 05, 2022, 05:09:26 PM »
The prestigious corner office was quite cluttered. Unless, of course one had bad intent and wanted to be hidden from any potential others on the floor...




The workers who selected the fifth floor also apparently liked the southeast corner office. But they knew the one on the floor above was cluttered...

Online Charles Collins

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #193 on: August 05, 2022, 05:46:27 PM »
Or out of the sixth floor window either. At least not until Howard Brennan’s “change of heart” many days later.

That’s not true. Brennan gave a reasonably close description at the scene. And singled out LHO at the lineup later that evening as looking like the gunman. (And that’s what I said that you disagreed with.)

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #194 on: August 05, 2022, 06:13:23 PM »
The same tired contrarian nonsense.  Going round and round in circles of rambling commentary, deflection, and insults.  You have suggested that Oswald couldn't get from the 6th floor to the lunchroom unnoticed.  When it was pointed out to you that SOMEONE on the 6th floor did escape unnoticed, you became hysterical suggesting the following as a possible explanation for why this fantasy person could do something that you claim Oswald could not:

"[Oswald] would not have had the luxury and ability of being able to hang around on the 6th floor and mingle with the many law enforcement officers that flooded the floor, pretending to be one of them and simply walking away. Oswald, or any other TSBD employee, on the 6th floor would have stood out in much the same way Oswald did to Baker on the 2nd floor."

This is one of the most baseless and laughable claims in the history of this forum.  There is zero evidence that anyone was found hanging around on the 6th floor claiming to be a law enforcement officer.  Baker and Truly did not encounter any such person when they arrived on the floor.   Don't you think someone might mention that they encountered on the floor from which the shots were fired?  You also suggest a complete stranger would be less noticeable than Oswald who was an employee of the TSBD.  Unreal.  It's understandable why you are running away from your own theory, suggestion, or whatever you are calling this baseless nonsense.  You should apologize to intelligent people on this forum for wasting their time.

There is zero evidence that anyone was found hanging around on the 6th floor claiming to be a law enforcement officer.

Of course not, fool. That would be the point of hiding in the open. There were so many difference law enforcement agents on that floor that anybody who looked similar to them would not be noticed. Do you, rather stupidly, think that those officers were going round asking eachother's credentials?

Besides, there's also zero evidence that Oswald ran down the stairs after the last shot.

Baker and Truly did not encounter any such person when they arrived on the floor.   Don't you think someone might mention that they encountered on the floor from which the shots were fired?

What in the world are you rambling on about? You seem to be losing it completely! Do you think Baker and Truly searched every floor completely? If not, how would they possibly see somebody hiding behind some boxes at another part of the building? Geeez... does everything need to be explained to you?

You also suggest a complete stranger would be less noticeable than Oswald who was an employee of the TSBD.  Unreal.

Try to understand this; after the shooting it didn't take long for the 6th floor to be flooded with all sorts of officers from different agencies, who were all "complete strangers" there!

You should apologize to intelligent people on this forum for wasting their time.

Which only means that I should never have to apologize to you.

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #195 on: August 05, 2022, 06:17:48 PM »
That’s not true. Brennan gave a reasonably close description at the scene. And singled out LHO at the lineup later that evening as looking like the gunman. (And that’s what I said that you disagreed with.)
You'll notice that the behavior of Brennan - e.g., not immediately identifying the shooter as Oswald - is evidence that calls into question his credibility but the behavior of Oswald that calls into question his credibility or innocence is always dismissed. Always meaning: always.

So the rule in "Oswald defender land" is that the behavior of those implicating Oswald can be used against them but the behavior of Oswald implicating himself cannot be used against him. Because the latter behavior is suddenly not evidence. It's evidence when it helps him but not evidence when it hurts him.

The efforts by the Oswald defenders to clear him, the double standards, the intellectual inconsistency, the shamelessness is sometimes remarkable.