The Position of the Bolt on the MC

[Walt Cakebread]

This is unbelievable. The picture James posted, of Fritz standing in the hole, is taken from the Alyea footage I posted. See below:

Please just watch this compilation which starts off with Fritz standing in the hole. It is footage of the rifle in an upright position before being removed by Day. And that should be the end of that particular discussion. Obviously the pics taken by Day and Studebaker of the rifle position are not part of the Alyea footage, but they do show the rifle in exactly the same position Alyea filmed it in.

None of this has anything to do with the discussion at hand so nobody needs to be diving into this quagmire.

I'm not convinced that the film we see was all exposed that afternoon....I'll confess that I'm confused about the footage.... It doesn't make sense to me....  I believe that the DPD were a big part of the cover up and the framing and murder of Lee Oswald, so I don't trust anything that they present.

[James Hackerott]

This is an animated GIF (in very slow motion) of frames from The Lost JFK Tapes showing Day holding the rifle up for Fritz immediately after lifting it from the floor. It appears to me, based on the testimony of both Day and Fritz that Fritz is either ejecting the cartridge or is almost to the point of ejecting it.



Near the end, it appears that both Day and Fritz are looking down towards the floor. Do you believe that they might be looking at the ejected cartridge?

5 second rule!

[Walt Cakebread]

This is an animated GIF (in very slow motion) of frames from The Lost JFK Tapes showing Day holding the rifle up for Fritz immediately after lifting it from the floor. It appears to me, based on the testimony of both Day and Fritz that Fritz is either ejecting the cartridge or is almost to the point of ejecting it.



Near the end, it appears that both Day and Fritz are looking down towards the floor. Do you believe that they might be looking at the ejected cartridge?

This is very good footage  ....The west elevator gate can be seen behind Fritz ....So the camera is pointing NE ...Fritz seems to be standing in the E/W aisle that lead to the stairs. But in other footage the camera is pointing east and Fritz seems to be in a different location. He appears to be standing in the spot where Seymour Weitzman was when he spotted the rifle ON THE FLOOR .

How the hell could Wetzman have seen the rifle on the floor if it was jammed between the boxes of books???

[Jim Hawthorn]

I assume these markings are the questioned "abrasion scratches".

Thanks James. I hadn't noticed the abrasion on the right-hand cartridge which is more central. Cartridge left or right could be candidates for being the last round in the clip - proving that the unspent round was dropped in from the top.

[Dan O'meara]

I'm not convinced that the film we see was all exposed that afternoon....I'll confess that I'm confused about the footage.... It doesn't make sense to me....  I believe that the DPD were a big part of the cover up and the framing and murder of Lee Oswald, so I don't trust anything that they present.

I don't trust anything that they present.

The DPD aren't "presenting" this film evidence.
Tom Alyea is, and he seems to have the same view of the DPD you do, only his opinion is formed by watching them up close.
Not accepting what is shown in the Alyea footage because you don't like the DPD does not make any sense.

[Charles Collins]

I assume these markings are the questioned "abrasion scratches".

Nice work James! I can’t say for sure, but the one on the camera left looks like it may be the one with the dent near the small end. Is this just my imagination? Can anyone else see this?

[Charles Collins]

This is very good footage  ....The west elevator gate can be seen behind Fritz ....So the camera is pointing NE ...Fritz seems to be standing in the E/W aisle that lead to the stairs. But in other footage the camera is pointing east and Fritz seems to be in a different location. He appears to be standing in the spot where Seymour Weitzman was when he spotted the rifle ON THE FLOOR .

How the hell could Wetzman have seen the rifle on the floor if it was jammed between the boxes of books???

Yes, the Lost JFK Tapes DVD is some good quality stuff. There is also a column between Fritz and the west elevator gate. There is a row of boxes stacked up to that column. So, it appears to me that Fritz is amongst the boxes. And we can see that Alyea is shifting during this segment to try to get a better view over Day’s right shoulder and to the left of what I assume is Studebaker’s left knee. Studebaker appears to still be on top of the stack of boxes where he took photo(s). And, yes, the next film segment appears to be taken from a different location. In it Day is examining the rifle with Fritz and his hanky in the background.