Emmet Hudson never dropped to the ground!

[Chris Bristow]

Yes it seems i have stuffed up the names of the 3 guys on the steps.
In another thread here i did mention/show that Holland's line to the smoke from Oswald's 2 shots wasn’t a million miles from/above that fence, but i was just saying.
I reckon that the supposed smoke near the fence was never near the fence, it was the smoke from Hickey's 6 shot burst (the smoke would have been in & behind the Queen Mary).
On the other hand an earlier comment of mine said that the shots (6 ovem) & echos might have shaken some dust offa the leaves on the lower branches (the carpark was gravelled & dust would have built up over the years).
I will bump my thread re smoke.
And i will bump my thread re Hoffman & his view of the smoke.

They were looking straight towards the limo then looked 20 degrees to the left to see the smoke. No way they thought smoke from the follow up car was from the knoll.  Another claim is they just saw smoke from Heygood's bike when he dumped it but he did not show up till the RR guys were already running to the knoll, way after the head shot. Also film footage shows his bike did not put out visible smoke which is the more common result if you don't tip it a full 90 degrees or more.
   No way dust was shaken off the leaves. It had just rained that morning and there were blustery winds moving the trees around. Not to mention the shot would have been 70 ft away from the trees.
 You seem to be throwing up far out explanations up to see what sticks. If you give a credible explanation I will respond but this is getting too far fetched for me.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

They were looking straight towards the limo then looked 20 degrees to the left to see the smoke. No way they thought smoke from the follow up car was from the knoll.  Another claim is they just saw smoke from Heygood's bike when he dumped it but he did not show up till the RR guys were already running to the knoll, way after the head shot. Also film footage shows his bike did not put out visible smoke which is the more common result if you don't tip it a full 90 degrees or more.
   No way dust was shaken off the leaves. It had just rained that morning and there were blustery winds moving the trees around. Not to mention the shot would have been 70 ft away from the trees.
 You seem to be throwing up far out explanations up to see what sticks. If you give a credible explanation I will respond but this is getting too far fetched for me.

Yes it had rained.
One of the RR guys on the triple underpass said that there was no smoke near the fence, & that the other RR guys were crazy.  He said that there was smoke down at the road.
There is no factual record of any RR guys running to the carpark at an early time.
But there is factual evidence that they were all fixed until a very very very very very late time.
There were 10 RR gawkers on the triple underpass, plus 2 police. And 3 RR gawkers on the abutment of the triple underpass. Making 15 witnesses in all in that area. Plus whathisname in the RR building. None of them saw any activity in the carpark.