Author Topic: Final Conclusion*  (Read 1510 times)

Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Final Conclusion*
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2021, 01:17:33 AM »
Since the forum was hacked and deleted in January 2018, I was in great doubt if to post my theory and findings again.
As 11/22 approaches again, I have decided to write few lines mostly to see if there are more researchers now who think, believe or know that JFK did not die that day in Dallas.
If you remember, my theory is that the "assassination" in Dallas was a staged event with aim to pull heavily ill JFK out of politics. Many wanted to kill him and it was almost inevitable and at some point JFK, Jackie, SS and Hoover came to an idea to fake assassination as a win win for everybody.
JFK was leading US and world politics towards more humanity, dignity and world as a better place to live and many did not like it. Dozens of groups and organizations wanted to kill him, from CIA, Federal reserve to mafia and military capitalist earning huge money out of wars.
I believe that on 11/22/1963 JFK left Dallas alive onboard his "Caroline" plane and went to Florida Winter White House. He died in March 1967 and buried at Arlington cemetery on March 14-15, 1967. Official story states his casket moved to a better spot that night but it was a cover up for his real burial.
Several participants of this staged assassination on 11/22/1963 are still alive.


*My original post back in 2015 was named "Final Solution" but at that time a was not aware this term was used by Nazis to describe mass murders across Europe in WWII.

Totally absurd.

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« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2021, 01:43:33 AM »
So you are suggesting that JFK would knowingly allow an innocent man to take the blame for his assassination and spend the rest of his life in jail or perhaps even be executed?   Doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement of JFK's character.   You do raise some interesting points regarding JFK's health.   We now know that JFK suffered from numerous health conditions which were treated with a laundry list of drugs.  JFK lied and covered up his health conditions while running for office.  Under modern standards and perhaps even at that time, he would have been deemed incapable of being president had those facts come to light.  Imagine if the press found out that President Trump had been taking the same list of drugs as JFK including amphetamines while president?  They would have called for his resignation and claimed he was a risk to national security. But JFK got a pass from the leftist press. Some things never change.

"Leftist Press" :D

There is no "leftist press". There was never a "leftist press" in the 60's or 70's either.

Back then, an FCC rule called the Fairness Doctrine existed. That rule mandated that radio and tv stations must have a conservative and a liberal balance of news on every station so no bias could occur. If a station violated the rule then they would be subjected to fines. So, it was impossible to have a "leftist media" as you continue to falsely claim.

In 1987, Ronald Reagan let the Fairness Doctrine expire which paved the way for the right wing media takeover we continue to see today. Rupert Murdoch immediately swooped in a bought up independent tv stations in all major media markets and turned them into FOX tv stations. Clear Channel radio bought up radio stations all across America and started syndicating right wing talk shows. Sinclair Broadcasting bought up hundreds of local ABC, CBS, NBC tv affiliates and began pushing far right wing propaganda into their local news in major cities all across America. The Fairness Doctine was gone and the right was able to start their assault in every form of mass communication because they were allowed to and no laws prevented them from doing it.     

The same thing happened with newspapers and now with CNN and news sites like Politico being bought out by right wing corporations or individuals. So, this "leftist media" is a myth being propagated by the right. They do that for two reasons: One is to keep the mainstream media from reporting all the GOP corruption because the MSM is afraid to appear to look biased for actually doing the job they are supposed to be doing. And two, it allows the right to justify buying up more media outlets. All they say is "it's a liberal media so we need to compete" which is false because they own everything.               

When Faux Propaganda gets sued in court their own lawyers tell the judge "Don't listen to Carlson, Hannity, or Ingraham because they are not news, they are entertainment". Their own lawyers in a court of law argue that Faux is indeed the lying propaganda that is. They constantly lie about imaginary election fraud, the insurrection, and Criminal Donald's crimes. GOP politicians echo the same lies and the sheep on the right believe it all. It's just one big right wing echo chamber and propaganda machine.             

And you continue to disparage the legacy of JFK with conspiracy theories.   

Back in the day, the private personal lives of presidents was never reported. The press never reported stuff about FDR, Truman, Ike, Johnson, and even Nixon. So, don't push propaganda trying to claim it was a "leftist press" that gave JFK a pass. And also, these are after the fact claims with swirling conspiracy theories trying to discredit JFK.

Criminal Donald was reported to be addicted to Adderall and his mental health alone should have disqualified him from even being in office. Even his own cabinet was looking for a way to invoke the 25th Amendment because he was insane and was a threat to our national security. This was a lunatic who wanted to start a nuclear war with China to stay in power. A maniac who incited an insurrection to illegally seize power. A loser who continues to lie about non existent voter fraud because he can't admit he lost in a blowout election since his narcissistic ego can't handle it. Even his own former officials said he is mentally ill. 27 top Psychologists said he is nuts. He was a risk to national security and still is according to many top officials that witnessed his insane manic behavior.

These 27 Top Shrinks Think Trump Might Be Nuts
https://www.thedailybeast.com/these-27-top-shrinks-think-trump-might-be-nuts

With regards to Nixon, the only reason that he resigned was because Republicans back in the 70's cared about America and supported the Constitution and the rule of law holding a President accountable for his crimes in office. We also had a fair and respected media that didn't push outright lies and propaganda 24/7 on right wing cable news outlets. They did investigative reporting and just reported straight news without the spin. If the right wing media was around back in 1974 along with the same GOP traitors we have in office today, Nixon never would have resigned because the GOP traitors would have protected him like they did for Criminal Donald and the right wing media would have been brainwashing the people on the right just like they do today.     
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Re: Final Conclusion*
« Reply #32 on: November 23, 2021, 03:53:15 AM »
Totally absurd.
If so, than nothing more than LN and CT theories.

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Re: Final Conclusion*
« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2021, 05:12:53 PM »
Get help . What the f happened to this forum ?

Online Patrick Jackson

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« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2021, 10:59:25 PM »
Get help .

Writes the forum member who can not write more that two lines in his posts...

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Final Conclusion*
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2021, 11:20:58 AM »
Writes the forum member who can not write more that two lines in his posts...
Says the guy who had just previously written just one line, in his reply. 😂

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« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2021, 11:33:27 AM »
Says the guy who had just previously written just one line, in his reply. 😂
Writes a Hero Member who does not know that I am not saying anything but writing.
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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Final Conclusion*
« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2021, 05:11:32 PM »
It's hilarious to see CTers calling out Patrick.  At least he has the courage to admit that he is a CTer and offer a narrative.  Our resident contrarians won't even try.  And the more generally espoused JFK theories such as those from Oliver Stone are no less nutty than Patrick's theory.  The body alterations, people hiding in the bushes, faking of all manner of evidence implicating hundreds of people from all walks of life into a conspiracy to kill the President.  LOL.  But Patrick is the nutty one according to these people. 

Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2021, 06:38:30 PM »
At the very instant there were people who claimed it was assassination. If Oswald was on the TSBD steps he must have heard the sounds and saw the commotion, people running towards Grassy knoll. If you were there, what would you think that is happening? Firecrackers, motorcycle backfires or gun shots? People reactions corresponds to what? Nah, it was firecrackers guys, clam down and go home... Nah, it was back fire... Or, it were gun shots and people got panic? Immediate reaction of everybody could only mean that there were gun shots and there was no reason Oswald to think about anything else but gun shots.
Why he did not stay? Well, he got panicked as everybody else.
If he was on the steps of the TSBD then he was surrounded by people, by his fellow co-workers like Frazier and others. They can give him an alibi. There's no need to take off. But I thought you believed he was inside having lunch? He said in a brief interview that he was inside the building at the time of the shooting.

Again: the people who were there, around the steps, didn't know exactly what happened. It was chaos and confusion. Nobody knew what happened. Those who were there said they asked each other about what was going on. In fact, a number of people ran to the Grassy Knoll, fence and overpass. That's where some people thought the shots came from.

Oswald did numerous things after the shooting that I simply don't think an innocent person would have done. In fact, he did things that a guilty person would do. But others, like you, obviously disagree.

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« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2021, 12:15:43 AM »
It's hilarious to see CTers calling out Patrick.  At least he has the courage to admit that he is a CTer and offer a narrative.  Our resident contrarians won't even try.  And the more generally espoused JFK theories such as those from Oliver Stone are no less nutty than Patrick's theory.  The body alterations, people hiding in the bushes, faking of all manner of evidence implicating hundreds of people from all walks of life into a conspiracy to kill the President.  LOL.  But Patrick is the nutty one according to these people.
Well, yes, I am a CTst but my CT goes towards framing Oswald. I think that everything was done to show Oswald did it. Also, there is no doubt there was conspiracy to kill JFK. Many wanted him dead but when Oswald arose as a prime suspect everything was done to frame him and show he did it. Each and every evidence about Oswald is doubted for 58 years, you do not have single 100% clear evidence about him but you have numerous items connected to him on the clumsy and unprofessional way.

 

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