Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?

[John Mytton]

The M.O. has become painfully obvious. Can’t debate the case on it’s merits, so resorts to insults. Then hilariously believes that: “ The WC fanboys are routinely destroyed on this forum.”   

Thanks, I missed Otto's post, what a Narcissist with delusions of grandeur, Otto makes the most absurd posts which are usually based on the most insignificant discrepancy. But Otto will irrationally ignore the bigger picture and it's associated overwhelming evidence and even in the light of this solid wall of facts, will only buckle down on his very special discovery that he thinks will somehow break open this case, but where his ground breaking evidence leads, is never revealed?

JohnM

[David Von Pein]

You can beat Walt to it and tell us what mark Dhority put on the shell.

Don't know. The markings on the shell are not clear enough to discern when looking at the series of three pictures of the shell which were photographed by Dale Myers and published on page 268 of "With Malice" (1998 Edition).

But the markings were discernible to Dhority himself in June of '64 when he positively IDed the shell as the one he marked on 11/22/63....

"Detective Dhority identified his marking on one of these cartridge cases. .... He stated this is the same cartridge case which he obtained from Virginia Davis...on November 22, 1963." -- CD1258, p.8 and CE2011, p.8

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11653#relPageId=9

[John Mytton]

Don't know. The markings on the shell are not clear enough to discern when looking at the series of three pictures of the shell which were photographed by Dale Myers and published on page 268 of "With Malice" (1998 Edition).

But the markings were discernible to Dhority himself in June of '64 when he positively IDed the shell as the one he marked on 11/22/63....

"Detective Dhority identified his marking on one of these cartridge cases. .... He stated this is the same cartridge case which he obtained from Virginia Davis...on November 22, 1963." -- CD1258, p.8 and CE2011, p.8

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11653#relPageId=9

This is another CT rabbit hole, Dhority identified his marking and that should be that.
And since the Police were in control of the evidence if Dhority wanted to add his initials after the fact he could do as easy as pie, so logically he must have seen his initials. But on the other hand if the initials were easily discernible (and I haven't examined the actual original evidence and I know most of the critics haven't either, so we all can't say definitively), then the next CT suspicion would be based on my previous statement that Dhority was a policeman and faked the evidence and then we begin the descent deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole.
The closed minded CT's have already made up their minds and will never be satisfied and Otto who's only been at this for the last 30 second has no idea beyond his limited world view which seems to never escape his vivid imagination.

JohnM

[Alan Ford]

Your self serving reasoning has come to a logical dead end, Markham's own words completely trumps your understanding of how Markham interpreted the initial question because if she never saw any of the men before the line-up then she wouldn't be able to say that one of those men in the line up was the man she saw murder Tippit and that man was Lee Harvey Oswald. Triple Oops!

Mrs. MARKHAM. Number two is the one I picked.  -----



JohnM

As you have helpfully reminded us, Mr Mytton, Ms Markham didn't recognize any of the four lineup men, and made this clear to those running the lineup. They wouldn't let up, so she went ahead and picked the man who was obviously their suspect (the bruises helped).

This constitutes a safe identification in Warren Gullible World! 

[Alan Ford]

Ball wasn't specific enough when he worded his original question and didn't have the ability to alter his follow up questions so they could have been easily interpreted by Markham who after all was only a waitress,

 

and this jumping all over Markham when we have the time to read and reread the questions are a sad indictment of the scummy level the CT's have to lower themselves to prove that St Oswald was "innocent".

~Grin~ Whereas the refusal of DPD to accept her repeated word that she had never seen any of these men before was decency and honesty personified!

[Alan Ford]

Wow unbelievable! Are you still trying to convince the CT community, who let's face it are some of the most easily manipulated morons "scholars" on the planet, that Oswald was outside when in fact he agreed that he was inside, how are you going with that? Or are you going to keep saying that outside the front doors was still inside?

Neither of the above. And you know of course this, because you have reverted to your old trick of putting the word "inside" in Mr Oswald's mouth. He never said it! 

Btw it's too bad that Oswald himself apparently told Hosty "Then went outside to watch P. Parade."

Ain't it just--------------your heart must have sunk to your gut when you first read that in 2019! 

[David Von Pein]

...nobody else has since "discerned" those markings.

The reason for that could be because Dhority might not have marked the bullet shell with his INITIALS. He might have used some other distinct marking which Dhority could easily identify if he ever had to I.D. the shell again.

But regardless of the type of mark Dhority used, he did identify HIS DISTINCT MARK on the shell in June of 1964. Spit on his identification if you like, but Dhority identified his marking on the shell casing nonetheless. And the CTers who like to complain about it aren't going to change that basic fact.

Barnes, on April 7, 1964, identified the same shell, so how is your "clear and distinct chain of possession" going from the Davis girl supposed to work?

Doesn't make any difference what Barnes did. The only part of the "chain" that really matters is the FIRST LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER who took control of the bullet shell. And that person was C.N. Dhority, who got it from the civilian witness (Virginia Davis) who found it in her side yard. It went straight from Davis to Dhority. And then Dhority marked it. It therefore makes no difference WHO ELSE might have handled the bullet shell AFTER Dhority, because Dhority will now ALWAYS be able to say "That's the exact shell I got from Virginia Davis", because he can see his mark on the shell.

The very same "chain of custody" argument can be made when discussing Oswald's C2766 Carcano rifle. Carl Day was the first law enforcement official to handle the rifle, and he etched his name into the stock of the weapon. So it doesn't make a bit of difference who else handled the weapon after Lt. Day handled it. It's always going to have the name "Day" scratched into the wooden stock, thereby confirming forever and always the fact that it was that exact rifle that was picked up off the sixth floor of the Book Depository Building by Lieutenant J.C. Day of the DPD on 11/22/63.

The same thing should have happened with Bullet CE399, but unfortunately it did not. The first person connected officially with "law enforcement" to handle that bullet at Parkland Hospital was Secret Service Agent Richard Johnsen, and he should have marked the physical bullet itself before it ever left his sight on 11/22/63. But he didn't. He utilized a typewritten note instead, which he then stapled to an envelope which contained the actual bullet. And since Johnsen didn't etch his marking into the physical bullet itself, it opened the door for the conspiracy theorists to do just exactly what they have done for the last 50+ years---they get to claim that the weak chain of custody for CE399 must certainly indicate that somebody in officialdom did something of an underhanded nature with the bullet that was found on a stretcher at Parkland. Many CTers would still no doubt be crying foul about CE399 even if Richard Johnsen had marked the bullet, but the lack of an "RJ" on that piece of metal has made the screams of "It Was Planted" by the conspiracists an easier argument to make (although it's still far from being a proven claim of fakery).

It would probably be better for conspiracists if they would start theorizing that civilian witnesses Virginia Davis and Barbara Davis "switched" the bullet shells to frame Oswald before police officers Doughty or Dhority came to the Davis apartment to collect shells #3 and #4. Because the CTers don't have a leg (or a shell) to stand on by continuing to pretend there's something fishy about the "chain of possession" when it comes to the marking of those two shells by members of the Dallas Police Department.

You never can tell---perhaps the two young Davis gals had a couple of spare cartridge casings from Smith & Wesson Revolver #V510210 under their beds on Nov. 22nd.

After all, I learned many years ago that in a JFK conspiracy theorist's world, virtually anything truly is possible.