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Offline John Iacoletti

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Above: Photo of the remorseless ferret-like double-murderer Oswald possibly shows the area where the twist occurred on his right sleeve.

Why do LNers always resort to rhetoric like this?  Is it supposed to make up for a lack of sufficient real evidence?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Problem with that photo is that the right sleeve of the shirt worn by Oswald is twisted so that the hole would be out of sight.

Unfortunately, that doesn't prove there was a hole in the right sleeve.

 

Above: Cuff button visible on left forearm but not on right forearm. Right sleeve was twisted.



Above: Photo of the remorseless ferret-like double-murderer Oswald possibly shows the area where the twist occurred (wrinkly area above the elbow) on his right sleeve.

Don't you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself by lying when the truth is right before us?  You know perfectly well that I referred you to the photo of Lee holding up his handcuffed wrists....

Offline Jerry Organ

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Don't you ever get tired of making a fool of yourself by lying when the truth is right before us?  You know perfectly well that I referred you to the photo of Lee holding up his handcuffed wrists....

There's no visible cuff button on the right sleeve in that picture, either. Meaning the right sleeve was twisted and the area with the hole wasn't visible.

I can't find any hallway pictures that clearly show that area.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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There's no visible cuff button on the right sleeve in that picture, either. Meaning the right sleeve was twisted and the area with the hole wasn't visible.

I can't find any hallway pictures that clearly show that area.

We both know that you Warren Commission apologists have used the photo of Lee with handcuffs on his wrists as proof that he was a socialist giving the "clinched fist " salute..  So don't lie and claim that you don't know of" any hallway pictures that clearly show that area"

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We both know that you Warren Commission apologists have used the photo of Lee with handcuffs on his wrists as proof that he was a socialist giving the "clinched fist " salute..  So don't lie and claim that you don't know of" any hallway pictures that clearly show that area"

In that case, yes, there are hallway pictures that show "Lee with handcuffs on his wrists".

Sorry to have lied about that.  ::)

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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In that case, yes, there are hallway pictures that show "Lee with handcuffs on his wrists".

Sorry to have lied about that.  ::)

The "clinched fist" photo clearly shows that there was NO HOLE in the elbow of the shirt when Lee Oswald was escorted through the hallway of the police station at about 4:00 pm......

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The "clinched fist" photo clearly shows that there was NO HOLE in the elbow of the shirt when Lee Oswald was escorted through the hallway of the police station at about 4:00 pm......

I don't think it was the point that I've been trying to impress onto you, but yes, that photo shows no hole alright.

So ... that means I'm wrong about the right sleeve being twisted?

That the elbow area seen in the "clinched fist" photo includes where the hole should have been?

You CTs are soooo sure of that, well then I'll concede the point. I must have got something wrong.

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No, that's not true.......  Lee went to his room at the rooming house and changed his clothes.   Mary Bledsoe said that the shirt he was wearing when she saw him on the bus had a torn or worn hole at the elbow......

We've all seen the photo of Lee holding up his handcuffed arms and there is NO HOLE in the elbow of the arrest shirt.

Lee went to his room at the rooming house and changed his clothes

I believe this is likely true, simply because when you work in a dusty warehouse and you get home it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to change your trousers and not your shirt.

Mary Bledsoe said that the shirt he was wearing when she saw him on the bus had a torn or worn hole at the elbow......

Yes she did say that in her testimony, but the information witten by Steve Thomas on the Ed forum and posted here as a quote by Tom Scully indicates that Bledsoe easily gets - let's be nice and say - confused. How can she claim Oswald showed her a picture of his new born baby when, on that date, the child had not yet been born? That's strange to say the least, right?

With that in mind, the problem with Bledsoe's testimony is that prior to her giving it investigators visited her at her home and showed her the actual arrest shirt, so she got to see the shirt (and the hole) up close and perhaps "refresh her memory".

I don't believe Bledsoe saw Oswald on the bus, at least not on that Friday, and I firmly believe she talked in her testimony about the shirt she had seen Oswald wearing on television after his arrest. The same shirt she was shown and thus could "identify".
« Last Edit: March 02, 2018, 11:58:10 PM by Martin Weidmann »

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Offline John Mytton

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I don't believe Bledsoe saw Oswald on the bus, at least not on that Friday, and I firmly believe she talked in her testimony about the shirt she had seen Oswald wearing on television after his arrest. The same shirt she was shown and thus could "identify".








Bledsoe's second day affidavit is way too accurate for random guesses.

Was it public knowledge that Oswald got on the Bus about Murphy Street?
Was it public knowledge that Oswald got off the Bus after a few blocks?
Was it public knowledge that while the bus was stuck in traffic at the same time as Oswald was on the Bus that a man said the President was shot?
Was it public knowledge that Oswald even caught a Bus?
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/bledsoe1.htm

And in Bledsoe's testimony she goes into detail about a woman who also got off at the same time as Oswald who wanted to get to the train station which along with the above Bledsoe recollections can be confirmed by cross referencing with Bus Driver McWatters testimony.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/bledsoe.htm
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/mcwatters.htm



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Offline John Iacoletti

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McWatters got Oswald confused with Milton Jones.

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