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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #160 on: January 12, 2021, 08:45:18 PM »
Sorry John but Chapman is a BIG prick.

Not nearly as big as he thinks he is.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #161 on: January 12, 2021, 09:11:06 PM »
Not nearly as big as he thinks he is.

LOL

Show us where I ever called myself a prick, let alone a big one

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #162 on: January 13, 2021, 12:45:47 PM »
Very clear GIF showing Connally rising (Credit: Gerda)


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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #163 on: January 13, 2021, 08:49:51 PM »
Very clear GIF showing Connally rising (Credit: Gerda)


That's a remarkable GIF. The clarity is amazing.

I simply do not understand how people can view this and still think the bullet striking JFK's head exited from the rear/back of it. Unless you believe the film was altered; in which case I do understand. The eyewitnesses who said the wound was in the back/rear of the head - including highly trained physicians - were simply wrong. Look at that horrible wound on JFK's head.
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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #164 on: January 14, 2021, 02:00:29 AM »
It appears to me that the damage was done to the " TOP " of the skull, which extended across to the right side, just above the ear.


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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #165 on: January 14, 2021, 03:59:59 PM »
It appears to me that the damage was done to the " TOP " of the skull, which extended across to the right side, just above the ear.


Yes, which is why some of the material blew/exploded upwards and forward. The Connallys said that brain matter and blood landed on them. Greer and Kellerman said the same thing. And blood/brain matter landed on the front of the limo, on the hood. If the shot exited the back of the head how did all of that material land in front of JFK?

Interesting that, if I read their accounts properly, none of the ER doctors at Parkland said they saw that skin flap. I'll guess that Mrs. Kennedy flattened it out when she held JFK's head and it ended up covering much of the top/side wound. The doctors, not seeing the full extent of the wound, thought it was further back. Okay, that's a complete guess.

But I'm getting away from the OP and should sit this one out. Again, that GIF is amazing. And horrifying.
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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #166 on: January 16, 2021, 12:54:11 PM »
That's a remarkable GIF. The clarity is amazing.

I simply do not understand how people can view this and still think the bullet striking JFK's head exited from the rear/back of it. Unless you believe the film was altered; in which case I do understand. The eyewitnesses who said the wound was in the back/rear of the head - including highly trained physicians - were simply wrong. Look at that horrible wound on JFK's head.

You know that no bullet can throw a body around like that, let alone a head. The Oswald bullet pushed the head about 2.5" forward which means the kick of the rifle would have been about that much. The equal/opposite reaction Newton thing.

I said that so it must be true.

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #167 on: January 16, 2021, 07:02:14 PM »
You know that no bullet can throw a body around like that, let alone a head. The Oswald bullet pushed the head about 2.5" forward which means the kick of the rifle would have been about that much. The equal/opposite reaction Newton thing.

I said that so it must be true.

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I think so too. So it's doubly true.

Josiah Thompson has a new book out - or soon to be released - that says the 2.5" movement is an illusion and didn't actually happen.

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #168 on: January 16, 2021, 07:25:49 PM »
I think so too. So it's doubly true.

Josiah Thompson has a new book out - or soon to be released - that says the 2.5" movement is an illusion and didn't actually happen.

I wonder how he's going to pull that one off. The small head movement forward is in full view, and would have snapped back about the same distance if not aided by other physiological factors.
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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #169 on: January 17, 2021, 05:41:44 PM »
I wonder how he's going to pull that one off. The small head movement forward is in full view, and would have snapped back about the same distance if not aided by other physiological factors.
From the Amazon site for his book: "The sudden two-inch forward movement of the presidentís head in the Zapruder film just before his head explodes is revealed to be an optical illusion caused by the movement of Zapruderís camera. This leaves without further challenge clear evidence that this shot came from a specific location to the right front of the limousine."

I don't know how one can claim that it "leaves without further challenge clear evidence that this shot came from a specific location to the right front of the limousine." Thompson argues a second shot then immediately followed this one; one from the right front, another from behind.

Book is here: https://www.amazon.com/Last-Second-Dallas-Josiah-Thompson/dp/0700630082/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=josiah+thompson&qid=1610900991&s=books&sr=1-1
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