Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #140 on: January 09, 2021, 11:07:44 PM »
But I have a time-stamped document proving your charges.

Yeah, that's what I thought.  Nowhere in any of those screenshots (which are mostly your words) do I ever call you a child molester.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #141 on: January 10, 2021, 05:09:59 AM »
Yeah, that's what I thought.  Nowhere in any of those screenshots (which are mostly your words) do I ever call you a child molester.

There are other screenshots

Your intent is made abundantly clear by dint of your bringing child molestation into the mix in the first place. A childish and desperate reaction, strictly schoolyard stuff.

Why would you say this
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #142 on: January 10, 2021, 05:20:48 AM »
The lineup was unfair and biased.  Markham didn't have to be aware of that in order to make it so.

No, she specifically said that she didn't recognize anyone in the lineup.

Mrs. MARKHAM. Number two was the man I saw shoot the policeman.
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Offline Michael Walton

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #143 on: January 10, 2021, 07:28:34 PM »
One of the WC's own counsels, Ball, called Markham an "utter screwball." Very highly dubious and leading testimony from her. Of course you know this, Bill, will turn a blind eye to it all. Or, being biased yourself, you'll say some other kind of whack-o-mole reply to it. If Oswald had had his day in court, Markham would have been laughed out of court by his counsel.

Offline Michael Walton

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #144 on: January 10, 2021, 07:36:46 PM »
Totally thought it was Connally at first but Gerda's work suggests to me that Jackie is pushing JFK's body up. Maybe some kind of shock/trauma thing.

Sorry Dan that's not Kennedy. Jackie's crouching and looking downward, most probably holding Kennedy's hair on (like she said she did). There's no pink arms on the figure propping it up like you think she's doing. Her pink hat is in front of that body which means she's in the back seat and Connolly is in the background further away from her. There's also no flap of scalp on the head of that figure as well.

The more interesting thing, of course, is why Connolly is sitting up? He'd just had his lung collapsed and other painful injuries. Earlier in the Z film, you can see him falling toward back first to his wife. So for some reason he sat up momentarily - perhaps because of shock or panic?

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #145 on: January 10, 2021, 10:07:41 PM »
Sorry Dan that's not Kennedy. Jackie's crouching and looking downward, most probably holding Kennedy's hair on (like she said she did). There's no pink arms on the figure propping it up like you think she's doing. Her pink hat is in front of that body which means she's in the back seat and Connolly is in the background further away from her. There's also no flap of scalp on the head of that figure as well.

The more interesting thing, of course, is why Connolly is sitting up? He'd just had his lung collapsed and other painful injuries. Earlier in the Z film, you can see him falling toward back first to his wife. So for some reason he sat up momentarily - perhaps because of shock or panic?

I'll stick with Gerda's ID of JFK.

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Re: Who is sitting up in Zapruder @Z456?
« Reply #146 on: January 10, 2021, 10:51:17 PM »
One of the WC's own counsels, Ball, called Markham an "utter screwball." Very highly dubious and leading testimony from her. Of course you know this, Bill, will turn a blind eye to it all. Or, being biased yourself, you'll say some other kind of whack-o-mole reply to it. If Oswald had had his day in court, Markham would have been laughed out of court by his counsel.

Her unusual way of understanding and responding to questions wore on Ball. That's Ball's bad; not hers.

To wit:

Mr. BALL. I know you didn't know anybody, but did anybody in that lineup look like anybody you had seen before?

Try that with emphasis:
Mr. BALL. I know you didn't know anybody, but did anybody in that lineup look like anybody you had seen before?

If only these hearings were recorded live
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