Author Topic: Opposing a 1/6 Commission: The Disgrace of the Republicans  (Read 1228 times)

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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They don't want a bi- or non-partisan independent commission to examine what happened. They know they couldn't attack its findings as partisan motivated since they would be involved. There's no political benefit for them in this type of investigation, an investigation which would clearly cause problems for them inside and outside the Party. The media would ask Republicans about the findings, they would be on the defensive and Trump would be going berserk complaining about the investigation and they would have to defend him or abandon him and incur the wrath of the Trumpists. So they want to let the House and Senate conduct the investigations - and the DOJ - so they can play the victim card. It may be smart politically but this is putting party over country to the extreme. Disgraceful.

McConnell said this after the attack/riot: "Former President Trump's actions preceding the riot were a disgraceful dereliction of duty... There is no question that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of that day. The people who stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their president. And their having that belief was a foreseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements, conspiracy theories, and reckless hyperbole which the defeated president kept shouting into the largest megaphone on planet Earth. The issue is not only the president's intemperate language on January 6th….It was also the entire manufactured atmosphere of looming catastrophe—the increasingly wild myths about a reverse landslide election that was being stolen in some secret coup by our now-president."

But we can't have a commission, no. Shameful.

One of the six Republicans in the Senate who voted for the commission, Ben Sasse, said this: “Nebraskans know where I stand on this: For the first time in our history, a mob targeted the Vice President and the Congress for following the Constitution by certifying the Electoral College vote. With Congress getting weaker and tribalism getting stronger, we’ve got to rebuild some public trust. Like others in the Nebraska delegation, I think that, if done right, a truly bipartisan commission could complement the work being done in the ongoing criminal investigations. The American people deserve a full account of what happened.”

Even that is too half hearted but at least it's something.
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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Opposing a 1/6 Commission: The Disgrace of the Republicans
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2021, 12:56:50 AM »
This would merely be fake impeachment 3.0.  Months of useless "investigation" that amounts to nothing.  Hundreds of people have been investigated and arrested.  The FBI devoted more resources to this than any crime in modern history.  There is nothing more to be learned except perhaps who murdered the unarmed protestor.  It is simply a pretext to beat up on Trump for months. 

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Re: Opposing a 1/6 Commission: The Disgrace of the Republicans
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2021, 01:32:50 AM »
You sure have a vivid imagination.  To think that Trump was responsible for the Jan 6 problems is about as far out in never-never land as someone can be.  You can not provide one single sentence of speech by Trump that could possibly lead anyone to think he was calling for lawlessness.  In fact, every comment he made prior to, and on that day was to try to make everyone remain calm and do all they could to promote law and order.  If someone were serious about assigning blame, I don't see how Pelosi can be overlooked.  There were several recommendations made to her about items that should be done and she did not approve any of them.  When the final answer is known (which it basically already is known) the truth will show that the election was a total fraud and nothing about it was legal in several states.  Every location that used a Dominion voting machine was totally under the control of those that favored the Dimocrats.  But, in this country, we are free to believe what we choose to.

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Re: Opposing a 1/6 Commission: The Disgrace of the Republicans
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2021, 08:56:32 PM »
  There is nothing more to be learned except perhaps who murdered the unarmed protestor.   
That will never happen. It can be seen on video...some black officer.

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Re: Opposing a 1/6 Commission: The Disgrace of the Republicans
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2021, 02:32:50 AM »
     

    "Watching the TV footage of those who entered the Capitol and
     walked through Statuary Hall showed people in an orderly fashion
     staying between the stanchions and ropes, taking videos and pictures
     You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from January
     the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit."

          -- Rep. Andrew S. Clyde (R-Ga.)

Republican gaslighting. ???

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Opposing a 1/6 Commission: The Disgrace of the Republicans
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2021, 05:08:38 AM »

     

    "Watching the TV footage of those who entered the Capitol and
     walked through Statuary Hall showed people in an orderly fashion
     staying between the stanchions and ropes, taking videos and pictures
     You know, if you didn’t know the TV footage was a video from January
     the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit."

          -- Rep. Andrew S. Clyde (R-Ga.)

Republican gaslighting. ???

Yes. And one or two Capitol police officers are killed each day by peaceful visitors. It was all pretty normal. They are only making a big deal of Officer Brian Sicknick death because it happened right after Trump made a speech.

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Re: Opposing a 1/6 Commission: The Disgrace of the Republicans
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2021, 05:20:39 AM »

This would merely be fake impeachment 3.0.  Months of useless "investigation" that amounts to nothing.  Hundreds of people have been investigated and arrested.  The FBI devoted more resources to this than any crime in modern history.  There is nothing more to be learned except perhaps who murdered the unarmed protestor.  It is simply a pretext to beat up on Trump for months.

Murdered an unarmed protester? I imagine that over half the Nazis who participated in Kristallnacht or the Night of Broken Glass were not carrying firearms and so could be described as “unarmed protesters”.

She was part of a mob that assaulted the Capitol of the United States. An assault that would kill on Police Officer, cause another major damage to their eye and several other officers seriously injured. Then assaulted the Chamber for the House of Representatives, with Congress members still inside, trying to escape. Only with the mob on the verge of breaking through was lethal force used. Just one shot, I believe, followed by no more shots from the police once this proved to be enough.

A black person can be shot by the police for holding a cell phone. But for a white person to be shot by the police, they have to assault the Capitol, assault the House Chamber, be on the verge of seizing some Congressmen before getting shot. They really have to empty the bucket.

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Re: Opposing a 1/6 Commission: The Disgrace of the Republicans
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2021, 07:42:19 PM »
Yes. And one or two Capitol police officers are killed each day by peaceful visitors. It was all pretty normal. They are only making a big deal of Officer Brian Sicknick death because it happened right after Trump made a speech.

No Capitol police officer was killed on Jan. 6.  Another debunked media story.  The only person killed was an unarmed protestor.  The details of that crime including the name of the officer who shot her in the head remain undisclosed.  The family of a military vet deserve some answers for her death.  Hopefully they will get them in a lawsuit since the answers are not forthcoming. 

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Re: Opposing a 1/6 Commission: The Disgrace of the Republicans
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2021, 07:47:26 PM »
Murdered an unarmed protester? I imagine that over half the Nazis who participated in Kristallnacht or the Night of Broken Glass were not carrying firearms and so could be described as “unarmed protesters”.

She was part of a mob that assaulted the Capitol of the United States. An assault that would kill on Police Officer, cause another major damage to their eye and several other officers seriously injured. Then assaulted the Chamber for the House of Representatives, with Congress members still inside, trying to escape. Only with the mob on the verge of breaking through was lethal force used. Just one shot, I believe, followed by no more shots from the police once this proved to be enough.

A black person can be shot by the police for holding a cell phone. But for a white person to be shot by the police, they have to assault the Capitol, assault the House Chamber, be on the verge of seizing some Congressmen before getting shot. They really have to empty the bucket.

You are condoning the shooting of an unarmed military vet and cover up of the details and then comparing her to a Nazi?  Unreal.  You should be ashamed.  At worst, she was in the commission of trespass in a public building.  There is no evidence that she posed any threat to anyone at the time she was apparently randomly shot.  Or do you think every unarmed protestor should have been gunned down that day like they would do in the old Soviet Union?  In addition, no Capitol police officer was killed on that day by anyone.  That is a lie. 

Lest there be any doubt as this lie has been persistent:

Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes a day after defending the Capitol during the January 6 assault, the D.C. medical examiner's office announced.

Sicknick died from strokes, the chief medical examiner's office said in a report summary, citing "acute brainstem and cerebellar infarcts due to acute basilar artery thrombosis." In an interview with The Washington Post, chief medical examiner Francisco J. Diaz said Sicknick suffered two strokes at the base of his brainstem caused by a clot in an artery. 
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Re: Opposing a 1/6 Commission: The Disgrace of the Republicans
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2021, 01:34:15 AM »
Republicans do not want an investigation for 2 simple reasons:

1. GOP elected officials in Congress were involved in the illegal coup and insurrection.

2. The GOP doesn't want an investigation because it's their own Qanon and far right violent extremist base that was involved in the illegal coup, insurrection, and murder of Capitol Police officers.

Basically they would be investigating themselves and they can't allow that to happen.

But these anti American seditious traitors pretend to be patriotic Americans waving the flag and "backing the blue".

It's an absolute joke.     

 

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