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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #192 on: March 01, 2021, 07:34:11 PM »
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Quote: ”In the late section of 1975, a social gathering in a fashionable section of far North Dallas produced a startling revelation. One guest impressed the group with his close association with members of the Dallas law-enforcement agencies. Of particular interest, was his friendship with Captain Will Fritz, former head of the Homicide Division of the Dallas Police Department. Fritz became virtually a recluse following retirement, and has persistently refused to grant interviews ever since.

The “impressive guest” informed the gathering that he frequently has lunch with Captain Fritz, and related a conversation with Fritz that took place in March of 1975.

The day following the first television showing of the Zapruder film a group of Dallas businessmen lunched with Captain Fritz. The luncheon conversation turned to the Zapruder film, televised for the first time the previous night. Captain Fritz said he did not watch the film on television; he had seen the film years ago, and did not stay up to see it on “Goodnight America.” Then Fritz volunteered some very revealing information.

Captain Fritz said that he received two or three phone calls, between Lee Harvey Oswald´s Friday afternoon arrest and Saturday afternoon, November 23rd, urging him to stop the investigation because, “You have your man”. Fritz was not satisfied that the investigation was completed, and was convinced, in his own mind, that Oswald “was about to ‘break’ and confess.” Fritz believed that, if others were involved, Oswald would implicate them. He said he “held out” and pursued the investigation. After a significant pause and a glance over his shoulder, Fritz added, “But, when the President of the United States called me and ORDERED the investigation stopped, what could I do?” - End quote.

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #193 on: March 01, 2021, 08:06:56 PM »
Do you think this movie might have "sharpened" Oswald's awareness since we know he saw the film?  His "pipe like" object went "bang" and was found at the crime scene.

There was a carcano like the rifle seen in the BY photo, found buried beneath boxes of books in the TSBD.....But that rifle could not have been the murder weapon, because it was hidden beneath those boxes of books BEFORE the shooting.

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #194 on: March 01, 2021, 09:26:28 PM »
There was a carcano like the rifle seen in the BY photo, found buried beneath boxes of books in the TSBD.....But that rifle could not have been the murder weapon, because it was hidden beneath those boxes of books BEFORE the shooting.

The location of the rifle in no way precludes it from having been used to commit this crime.  Fired bullet casings from that rifle were found by the window from which the shots were fired.  So there is no doubt that rifle was used.  Oswald likely had a hiding place selected for his rifle before he even arrived that morning.  The last thing he does before retrieving the rifle is to put down his clipboard which he is using to appear busy in case he is encountered lingering on the 6th floor before the assassination.  That was found in proximity to where his rifle is found.  So it is just a matter of seconds to put the rifle back there as he exits the floor.  It's likely the same spot where he hid it that morning.  I'm not sure why you believe it would have taken him more than 5 seconds to place the rifle there.

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #195 on: March 01, 2021, 10:15:48 PM »
The location of the rifle in no way precludes it from having been used to commit this crime.  Fired bullet casings from that rifle were found by the window from which the shots were fired.  So there is no doubt that rifle was used.  Oswald likely had a hiding place selected for his rifle before he even arrived that morning.  The last thing he does before retrieving the rifle is to put down his clipboard which he is using to appear busy in case he is encountered lingering on the 6th floor before the assassination.  That was found in proximity to where his rifle is found.  So it is just a matter of seconds to put the rifle back there as he exits the floor.  It's likely the same spot where he hid it that morning.  I'm not sure why you believe it would have taken him more than 5 seconds to place the rifle there.

The location of the rifle in no way precludes it from having been used to commit this crime

So you're saying that if a carcano with the serial # C 2766 was found behind some boxes on the 1st floor that wouldn't preclude it from having been fired from the sixth floor window by Lee Oswald?     Great!! ....Please explain .....

If you say that if the rifle had been found on the first floor....and therefore it couldn't have been fired from the sixth flor window at the time of the murder.....Then the same reasoning applies to the carcano having been found buried beneath boxes of books that were too far away from the stairs to allow Lee Oswald to have hid that rifle there AFTER the shooting.....

Both scenarios preclude the possibility .....Because Marrion Baker saw Lee In the second floor lunchroom about 90 seconds after the first explosion.....and there would not have been enough time for Lee to have traveled from the imaginary "Sniper's Nest" to the first floor and hid the rifle and then returned to the second floor lunchroom to be encountered there by Baker....  You might as well say the carcano was found in El Paso.....Impossible is impossible....and it would have been impossible for Lee to have hid the rifle at the bottom of that chasm of boxes of books that was about five feet away from the "escape" aisle at the top of the stairs.

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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #196 on: March 01, 2021, 11:45:45 PM »

Researcher David Josephs explains and provides evidence how the DPD, Secret Service, and FBI dealt with the rifle evidence they gathered, as they gathered it, and how Hoover’s FBI, with the help of the US Postal Service, steered this evidence toward Oswald: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0CbHeZjHZ8&feature=youtu.be  Thumb1:

Additional information available here: https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-evidence-is-the-conspiracy-the-carbine-on-the-6th-floor


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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #197 on: March 02, 2021, 12:26:07 AM »
The location of the rifle in no way precludes it from having been used to commit this crime.  Fired bullet casings from that rifle were found by the window from which the shots were fired.  So there is no doubt that rifle was used.  Oswald likely had a hiding place selected for his rifle before he even arrived that morning.  The last thing he does before retrieving the rifle is to put down his clipboard which he is using to appear busy in case he is encountered lingering on the 6th floor before the assassination.  That was found in proximity to where his rifle is found.  So it is just a matter of seconds to put the rifle back there as he exits the floor.  It's likely the same spot where he hid it that morning.  I'm not sure why you believe it would have taken him more than 5 seconds to place the rifle there.

The location of the rifle in no way precludes it from having been used to commit this crime.

True, but there is no evidence that this particular rifle was fired at all on 11/22/63

Fired bullet casings from that rifle were found by the window from which the shots were fired.  So there is no doubt that rifle was used.

True, but the problem is when it was used.

Oswald likely had a hiding place selected for his rifle before he even arrived that morning.

Likely? Speculating again?
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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #198 on: March 02, 2021, 01:15:32 AM »
True, but there is no evidence that this particular rifle was fired at all on 11/22/63
There is no evidence that some other rifle was fired in Dealey on 11/22/63
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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
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Re: Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?
« Reply #199 on: March 02, 2021, 01:40:59 AM »

True, but there is no evidence that this particular rifle was fired at all on 11/22/63
There is no evidence that some other rifle was fired in Dealey on 11/22/63


True. With no evidence what rifle was fired, are you just going to assume that it was the MC that was fired?