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Offline Michael O'Brian

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Power cut important clarification required
« on: February 20, 2018, 08:15:37 PM »
Can anyone please provide a bit of clarification on the power to the elevators etc within the TSBD, what needs to be explained and clarified is the fact that at some stage either during the shooting or in the very near aftermath some lifts were not working.
So can we hear what is clear fact on this matter ie, was it before during or after the shots that this power cut happened???
Thanks in advance.

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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2018, 05:55:31 PM »
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Can anyone please provide a bit of clarification on the power to the elevators etc within the TSBD, what needs to be explained and clarified is the fact that at some stage either during the shooting or in the very near aftermath some lifts were not working.
So can we hear what is clear fact on this matter ie, was it before during or after the shots that this power cut happened???
Thanks in advance.

Geneva Hine, the only employee in the Depository's second floor offices, observes the electrical power and telephone go dead. The WC will not question a single employee, including building manager Roy Truly, about the mysterious interruption of  electric or telephone service, nor will they ask the location of the electric and telephone panels. Moments after the shooting Ms. Hine knocks on the door of Southwestern Publishing (Room 203 in the TSBD). She sees a woman through the opaque glass, hears her talking on the phone, and continues knocking on the door, but the woman never answers.

Researcher John Armstrong has questioned why a phone worked in one office when electrical service and telephone service went dead everywhere else in the TSBD.  The woman using the phone, Mrs. John L (Carol) Hughes, was NOT questioned by the WC.

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Geneva Hine, the only employee in the Depository's second floor offices, observes the electrical power and telephone go dead. The WC will not question a single employee, including building manager Roy Truly, about the mysterious interruption of  electric or telephone service, nor will they ask the location of the electric and telephone panels. Moments after the shooting Ms. Hine knocks on the door of Southwestern Publishing (Room 203 in the TSBD). She sees a woman through the opaque glass, hears her talking on the phone, and continues knocking on the door, but the woman never answers.

Researcher John Armstrong has questioned why a phone worked in one office when electrical service and telephone service went dead everywhere else in the TSBD.  The woman using the phone, Mrs. John L (Carol) Hughes, was NOT questioned by the WC.

John Armstrong has questioned why a phone worked in one office when electrical service and telephone service went dead everywhere else in the TSBD.

If Mrs Hughes was already talking on the phone when the electrical power was interrupted it would not effect her phone.

Telephones only require electrical power to operate the ringer bell.    Once the connection is made an outside source of power is unnecessary.

Geneva Hine, the only employee in the Depository's second floor offices, observes the electrical power and telephone go dead.

Mrs Hine saw the SWITCHBOARD lose power..... 

The power was cut immediately after the shooting.....  That electrical power interruption may be the reason that Baker and Truly couldn't operate the elevator..... 

Someone opened the electrical disconnect at the power lines that fed power to the electrical distribution panel for the building.   This act immediately following the shooting was intentional.....   And it may have been untended to trap Lee Oswald on the sixth floor or an elevator....if he had been on an elevator when the power was cut.

Lee was NOT on the sixth floor as they had planned and thought he would be ....He was on the first floor.




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Telephones only require electrical power to operate the ringer bell.

Even that comes through the phone line, not the building electrical.

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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2018, 02:05:31 AM »
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John Armstrong has questioned why a phone worked in one office when electrical service and telephone service went dead everywhere else in the TSBD.

If Mrs Hughes was already talking on the phone when the electrical power was interrupted it would not effect her phone.

 

Someone opened the electrical disconnect at the power lines that fed power to the electrical distribution panel for the building.   This act immediately following the shooting was intentional.....   And it may have been untended to trap Lee Oswald on the sixth floor or an elevator....if he had been on an elevator when the power was cut.

Lee was NOT on the sixth floor as they had planned and thought he would be ....He was on the first floor.

This alone proves that more than one person was behind that shooting, it's a good scenario that you suggest with the reason being an attempt to trap Oswald, but I would have guessed it was to slow down the cops from getting access to the higher floors and so the empty shells etc could be dropped, in time for the planter to escape
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         It's more probable that an alleged power cut at the TSBD was peripheral damage resulting from the Primary Target/ Dal Tex Bld having its' power cut.

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         It's more probable that an alleged power cut at the TSBD was peripheral damage resulting from the Primary Target/ Dal Tex Bld having its' power cut.

Thanks for the input, can you put up any more info links etc please, this just gets better almost unbelievable, that L.H.O is blamed on this when so much points to obvious multiple involvement.

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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2018, 03:04:30 PM »
No conspiracy theory ever dies or even fades away.  It just waits around to be revived again and again.  There is no credible evidence of any power cut at the TSBD.  Nor is there is any reasonable explanation for why any conspirator would cut the power or phones for a few seconds.  If the purpose was to keep the police from using the elevator, that would also preclude any assassin from using it to escape the building.  Instead it places both the police and assassin on the stairs.  And how exactly would such an event be coordinated?  It is preposterous.  No reason to reiterate all the prior discussions but it's clear that Hine is referring to the fact that there were no incoming calls at the time the motorcade approached which allowed her to go to the window to take a look.  Her use of the phrase "the lights all went dead" is used in conjunction with the phone which was her responsibility to answer.  She is simply saying there were no incoming calls at that moment which allowed her an opportunity to take a peak at the motorcade.  Photos also confirm the Hertz sign atop the building was functional at 12:30 moments after the assassination.  So there was power on in the building.

Mr. BALL. Did you stay at your desk?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir: I was alone until the lights all went out and the phones became dead because the motorcade was coming near us and no one was calling so I got up and thought I could see it from the east window in our office.
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No conspiracy theory ever dies or even fades away.  It just waits around to be revived again and again.  There is no credible evidence of any power cut at the TSBD.  Nor is there is any reasonable explanation for why any conspirator would cut the power or phones for a few seconds.  If the purpose was to keep the police from using the elevator, that would also preclude any assassin from using it to escape the building.  Instead it places both the police and assassin on the stairs.  And how exactly would such an event be coordinated?  It is preposterous.  No reason to reiterate all the prior discussions but it's clear that Hine is referring to the fact that there were no incoming calls at the time the motorcade approached which allowed her to go to the window to take a look.  Her use of the phrase "the lights all went dead" is used in conjunction with the phone which was her responsibility to answer.  She is simply saying there were no incoming calls at that moment which allowed her an opportunity to take a peak at the motorcade.  Photos also confirm the Hertz sign atop the building was functional at 12:30 moments after the assassination.  So there was power on in the building.

Mr. BALL. Did you stay at your desk?
Miss HINE. Yes, sir: I was alone until the lights all went out and the phones became dead because the motorcade was coming near us and no one was calling so I got up and thought I could see it from the east window in our office.

Why would a motorcade going by a building cause incoming calls to stop?

Luke Mooney - It was a push button affair the best I can remember. got hold of the controls and it worked. We started up and got to the second. I was going to let them off and go on up. And when we got there, the power undoubtedly cut off, because we had no more power on the elevator.

Victoria Adams - Following that, I pushed the button for the passenger elevator, but the power had been cut off on the elevator, so I took the stairs to the second floor.

Let me guess....they were both "mistaken".


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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2018, 07:16:55 PM »
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Why would a motorcade going by a building cause incoming calls to stop?

Luke Mooney - It was a push button affair the best I can remember. got hold of the controls and it worked. We started up and got to the second. I was going to let them off and go on up. And when we got there, the power undoubtedly cut off, because we had no more power on the elevator.

Victoria Adams - Following that, I pushed the button for the passenger elevator, but the power had been cut off on the elevator, so I took the stairs to the second floor.

Let me guess....they were both "mistaken".

Why would it cause the power to go out?  My guess it that what she means is that because the motorcade was approaching that most people were out on the streets and not making calls.  We have gone through the elevator nonsense before.  There were DPD members who took the front elevator at the same time and it was operational.  You are also mixing apples and oranges relying on Hine for a power outage at the time of the assassination and then citing an elevator ride that takes places later.  Do you believe the power was out for that entire time and no one else noticed?  And the Hertz sign was operational - so there is no doubt that there was power in the building.  And again why would your fantasy conspirators - the ones you always deny you are alleging - cut the power for a few seconds or minutes?  And how do they coordinate this with ongoing events to their advantage?

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