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« Reply #5664 on: August 08, 2022, 11:21:42 PM »
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New toilet photos back up bombshell claims about Trump flushing documents



According to an exclusive report from Axios, photos have been obtained showing illegally shredded documents in both a White House toilet and on Air Force One during Donald Trump's administration.

In February of this year, it was reported that White House staffers revealed that the former president was tearing up documents and dumping them in White House toilets causing headaches and backed-up plumbing.

At that time, the New York Times reported, "While in office, the former president blithely flouted the Presidential Records Act, which required him to preserve written communications concerning his official duties" and added that "Trump routinely tore up documents and after leaving office brought substantial written materials back to Mar-a-Lago. A Trump spokesman didn't respond to a request for comment about the plumbing matter."

Trump pooh-poohed the report at the time and lashed out at the Times' Maggie Haberman -- and now she has produced photos backing up the reporting.


Photos from Maggie Haberman via Axios

"The revelation by Haberman, whose coverage as a New York Times White House correspondent was followed obsessively by Trump, adds a vivid new dimension to his lapses in preserving government documents. Axios was provided an exclusive first look at some of her reporting," Axios is reporting while also producing two photos that show paper fragments in the toilets that contain Trump's tell-tale writing with a Sharpie.

In one photo, New York Republican Rep. Elise Stefanik's name can be seen.

Axios adds, "Haberman — who obtained the photos recently — shared them with us ahead of the Oct. 4 publication of her book, 'Confidence Man: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America.'"

The report adds that Haberman explained, "Mr. Trump was discarding documents this way was not widely known within the West Wing, but some aides were aware of the habit, which he engaged in repeatedly. It was an extension of Trump's term-long habit of ripping up documents that were supposed to be preserved under the Presidential Records Act."

Read the exclusive story at Axios https://www.axios.com/2022/08/08/trump-toilet-photos-maggie-haberman

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5665 on: August 08, 2022, 11:28:58 PM »
This is the moment Mark Milley realized Trump had 'a screw or two loose': New Yorker exposé



According to an excerpt from Peter Baker and Susan Glasser's yet-to-be-released new book, "The Divider: Trump In The White House," Gen. Mark Milley was stunned when he found out how out of control and unreasonable former President Donald Trump was after being appointed to become the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

His moment of realization came after watching a heated conversation between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Trump that led to a moment -- captured in an iconic White House photograph -- where Pelosi stood up, and pointed her finger at Trump and lectured him before leaving the briefing room.

According to the report, Pelosi reportedly told Trump, "All roads with you lead to Putin. You gave Russia Ukraine and Syria,” which led the former president to shout back, "You’re just a politician, a third-rate politician!”

After House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) interceded and joined Pelosi in standing and stated, “This is not useful,” Trump, called after them, "We’ll see you at the polls.”

Upon her departure, Pelosi told the waiting press that Trump had had a "meltdown," which made Trump tweet out the photo of Pelosi standing over him, insisting that it was she who had flipped out, but instead was perceived by the public at large that she had stood up to him.

According to the book, while all of this played out, Milley lowered his head and stayed out of the fray, with Baker and Glasser writing, "Milley could also be seen in the photograph, his hands clenched together, his head bowed low, looking as though he wanted to sink into the floor. To Pelosi, this was a sign of inexplicable weakness, and she would later say that she never understood why Milley had not been willing to stand up to Trump at that meeting."

The report notes that Milley already had his suspicions about what he had gotten himself into after being warned by former White House chief of Staff John Kelly to stay far away from Trump.

According to the book, "That night, he [Milley] called Representative Adam Smith, a Washington Democrat and the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, who had also been present. 'Is that the way these things normally go?' Milley asked. As Smith later put it, 'That was the moment when Milley realized that the boss might have a screw or two loose.' There had been no honeymoon. 'From pretty much his first day on the job as chairman of the Joint Chiefs,' Smith said, 'he was very much aware of the fact that there was a challenge here that was not your normal challenge with a Commander-in-Chief.'"

You can read more excerpts here:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/inside-the-war-between-trump-and-his-generals

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5666 on: August 08, 2022, 11:32:56 PM »
Trump demanded military parade without wounded vets because 'it doesn’t look good for me': new book

According to yet another book about Donald Trump's four years in office, the former president was reportedly enamored with the idea of a massive military parade, but then added he didn't want to see any wounded veterans participating.

In an excerpt from “The Divider: Trump in the White House,” by Peter Baker and Susan Glasser, the New York Times noted a confrontation the former president had with his chief of staff.

According to the book, the former president was impressed after observing the Bastille Day parade in Paris and suggested to then-White House chief of staff John Kelly -- a retired U.S. Marine Corps general -- that he wanted a similar display of military force.

Baker and Glasser wrote that, after returning from his 2017 Paris trip, Trump told Kelly to see about duplicating the parade but added, "Look, I don’t want any wounded guys in the parade. This doesn’t look good for me.”

“Kelly could not believe what he was hearing,” the book reports. “‘Those are the heroes,’ he told Trump. ‘In our society, there’s only one group of people who are more heroic than they are — and they are buried over in Arlington.’”

Trump reportedly repeated, “I don’t want them. It doesn’t look good for me.”

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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/08/us/politics/new-book-chronicles-trumps-fraught-relationship-with-top-military-officials.html

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« Reply #5667 on: August 08, 2022, 11:43:37 PM »
Photos show handwritten notes that Trump apparently ripped up and attempted to flush down toilet
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/08/politics/trump-white-house-notes-toilet-photos-cnntv/index.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5668 on: August 08, 2022, 11:51:01 PM »
January 6th Committee to explore Trump’s failure to stop the insurrection

Lawmakers on the January 6th Committee have already accused Donald Trump of failing to call off the Capitol insurrection for hours. This week's hearing is expected to reveal more evidence of what the former president was doing that day.

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« Reply #5669 on: August 09, 2022, 12:04:01 AM »
FBI executes search warrant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago, former President says
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/08/politics/mar-a-lago-search-warrant-fbi-donald-trump/index.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5670 on: August 09, 2022, 12:09:08 AM »
Breaking news reports say Mar a Lago has been raided by a large number of FBI agents. Stay tuned!

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« Reply #5671 on: August 09, 2022, 05:23:38 AM »
FBI search at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home tied to classified material, sources say

In a lengthy statement Monday night, Trump said, “They even broke into my safe!"

MIAMI — Former President Donald Trump said Monday that the FBI "raided" his home at Mar-a-Lago in Florida and even cracked his safe, with a source familiar with the matter telling NBC News that the search was tied to classified information Trump allegedly took with him from the White House to his Palm Beach resort in January 2021.

Trump also claimed in a written statement that the search — unprecedented in American history — was politically motivated, although he did not provide specifics.

“These are dark times for our Nation, as my beautiful home, Mar-A-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, is currently under siege, raided, and occupied by a large group of FBI agents,” Trump said in a lengthy email statement issued by his Save America political committee.

“After working and cooperating with the relevant Government agencies, this unannounced raid on my home was not necessary or appropriate,” Trump said before bemoaning: “They even broke into my safe!”

Trump lawyer Christina Bobb, who said she was present for Monday’s search, told NBC News that Trump and his team have been “cooperative with FBI and DOJ officials every step of the way,” while adding that the bureau “did conduct an unannounced raid and seized paper.”

A senior government official told NBC News that the FBI was at Mar-a-Largo “for the majority of the day” and confirmed that the search warrant was connected to the National Archives.

Trump this year had to return 15 boxes of documents that were improperly taken from the White House, the National Archives and Records Administration, or NARA, said in February.

“In mid-January 2022, NARA arranged for the transport from the Trump Mar-a-Lago property in Florida to the National Archives of 15 boxes that contained Presidential records, following discussions with President Trump’s representatives in 2021,” the National Archives said in a statement Feb. 7.

The same month, the National Archives and Records Administration asked the Justice Department to examine whether Trump’s handling of White House records violated federal law, a story first reported by The Washington Post and subsequently confirmed by NBC News sources.

The New York Times on Monday first reported the FBI focus on the National Archives materials.

Just hours before agents searched Trump's residence, the FBI notified the Secret Service about the bureau’s plans to execute the warrant, according to a Secret Service official. The Secret Service facilitated access to the property, the official said, but did not participate in any aspect of the search.

At Justice Department headquarters, a spokesperson declined to comment. An official at the FBI Washington field office also declined to comment, and an official at the FBI field office in Miami declined to comment as well.

A senior law enforcement official in Florida confirmed that there was "law enforcement activity" at Mar-a-Largo on Monday.

The White House said it was not given a heads up.

“We did not have notice of the reported action and would refer you to the Justice Department for any additional information,” a White House official said.

Trump is not at Mar-a-Lago, his winter residence. He often spends his summers at Trump National Golf Club Bedminster in New Jersey.

The FBI search came days after Attorney General Merrick Garland told NBC News that the “most wide-ranging investigation” in Justice Department history was examining not only the rioters who invaded the Capitol and physically attacked officers, but also whether anyone was “criminally responsible for interfering with the peaceful transfer of power from one administration to another.”

The search of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate came just over six years after another FBI action surrounding classified material that set the stage for Trump’s 2016 Electoral College victory: former FBI Director James Comey’s July 5, 2016, news conference about Trump's Democratic rival, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Comey, who broke with Justice Department protocol, declared at the time that Clinton and her colleagues were “extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information,” even though he said the facts did not support bringing criminal charges.

Trump was a persistent critic of Clinton's handling of classified material, claiming in 2016 that it was “the biggest political scandal since Watergate.” It was Comey's handling of the Clinton matter that was used as justification for Trump's decision to fire Comey. Trump eventually replaced Comey with Christopher Wray. He remains in the position.

Republicans rallied around their party's de facto leader, who is weighing another run for president.

“The @FBI’s raid of Mar-a-Lago is incredibly concerning, especially given the Biden admin’s history of going after parents & other political opponents. This is 3rd World country stuff,” Sen. Rick Scott of Florida, who leads the Senate GOP's campaign arm, said on Twitter.

“We need answers NOW,” Scott added, summing up the mood of many Republicans. “The FBI must explain what they were doing today & why.”

Scott’s reaction is an early sign of the fierce political blowback the Justice Department is likely to face for investigating Trump, underscoring the numerous challenges that would come with potentially prosecuting a former president who is both a likely White House candidate and the most influential figure in the GOP.

Trump is the focus of multiple investigations, including a criminal inquiry in Georgia concerning allegations of election interference and a New York civil probe into whether he fraudulently represented his finances to the state. Trump was in the New York area Monday as he prepared to give a deposition in that case.

But the biggest federal investigation swirling around Trump concerns his involvement in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot, which resulted in his second impeachment and is the subject of a House committee examining the uprising.

Trump has not been charged in any of those investigations.

Of how Monday's law enforcement action might affect Trump’s political aspirations, a person close to Trump said: “If he wasn’t running before, he is now.”

The source, who was not authorized to speak publicly, appeared to be suggesting that Trump might benefit from being an active candidate for the presidency if he faces legal jeopardy.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-mar-lago-home-was-raided-large-group-fbi-agents-rcna42133