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« Reply #5410 on: June 23, 2022, 11:43:27 AM »
Fake elector and Trump staffer in Arizona subpoenaed by the Justice Department as part of election overthrow case

The Justice Department has filed fresh subpoenas for two people allegedly involved in the attempt to overturn the 2020 election, the Washington Post noted Wednesday afternoon.

Ahead of the fifth public hearing for the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack and the plot that led up to it, FBI agents were at the home of Georgia lawyer Brad Carver and Thomas Lane, who lives in Virginia.

Carver was among the 16 fake electors that President Donald Trump's campaign recruited to sign off on an official document saying that they were "duly elected and qualified electors." Carver is a proud member of the Republican National Lawyers Association and lobbyist whose firm the Republican Party paid $81,000 to defend Georgia's new voting restrictions.

It was a fluke that Carver was one of the fraudulent electors as he stepped in when four of the 16 Trump "electors" didn't show up for the meeting on Dec. 14, 2020. The electors conducted a ceremony, falsely signed the official documents and sent the papers to Congress and the National Archives.

Carver did have a Twitter account that continues to show up in Google searches but has since been deleted.

Lane worked for Trump's campaign in Arizona and New Mexico. According to his LinkedIn profile, while Lane worked for Trump for President, Inc, from Aug 2020-Jan. 2021. At the same time he was working for the National Republican Senatorial Committee (RSC) as their Election Day Operations Director — Special Projects from Dec. 2020 to Jan. 2021. He began a job as the Election Integrity State Director for Virginia in Aug. 2021.

Despite being employed by the Republican Party in Dec. 2020, someone named Thomas Lane who worked in Republican politics in Arizona in Dec. 2020, testified under oath that he was observing the election vote count on behalf of a campaign opposing Proposition 207, which would legalize recreational cannabis, the Arizona Mirror reported in 2020.

"Thomas Lane was one of a half dozen observers whom Ward’s attorney, Jack Wilenchik, called to the stand. Lane, who was observing on behalf of the campaign opposing Proposition 207, which legalizes recreational marijuana, said he watched election workers mistakenly negate votes for Trump," the report claimed. "He said the software that tries to prefill what it believes to be the voter’s choices generally favored Biden, regardless of what the original ballot said."

Lane claimed that election workers caught and corrected them. He also testified that there were serial numbers used to find duplicated ballots.

As the Post explained, the DOJ released the addresses of the people where they staged the raids and those addresses match the men.

"The precise nature of the information being sought by the Justice Department wasn’t immediately clear; however, Arizona and Georgia officials testified Tuesday to a House panel probing the Jan. 6 attacks about attempts by Trump and his inner circle of advisers to try to reverse Biden’s electoral college victories in those states," the report explained.

There is a list of about 15 other people subpoenaed by the DOJ.

Read the full report at the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/06/22/jan6-fbi-electors-subpoenas/

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« Reply #5411 on: June 23, 2022, 11:52:19 AM »
All these Republican criminals are getting hit with DOJ subpoenas for trying to steal the election with fake electors. The DOJ ain't playing around.

Georgia GOP chairman hit with DOJ subpoena in fake elector investigation: report



On Wednesday, CNN reported that the Justice Department has issued a subpoena to Georgia Republican Party Chair David Shafer as part of its investigation into the pro-Trump fake "electors" that were seeking to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

This comes as the DOJ expands its probe, issuing subpoenas to a wide list of GOP officials in multiple states.

"Federal investigators subpoenaed the Georgia Republican Party chairman for information related to the fake elector scheme there — as the Justice Department has issued a fresh round of subpoenas to people from several states who acted as rogue electors after the 2020 presidential election, multiple sources familiar with the situation told CNN," reported Zachary Cohen, Sara Murray, Katelyn Polantz, Evan Perez, and Marshall Cohen. "The subpoena for the chairman, David Shafer, represents a significant step because he played a central role in organizing the fake slate of electors from Georgia and coordinated the effort with the Trump campaign."

Shafer, who has previously stirred controversy by tweeting in support of Russia's Vladimir Putin, signed his name to the slate of fake electors, which experts have argued could open him up to legal jeopardy.

The fake elector scheme was part of a plan detailed in a memo by far-right Trump attorney John Eastman. As part of the plan, Vice President Mike Pence would use the fake electors as proof that several states President Joe Biden won were disputed, and thus discard the real electors, throwing the majority of "counted" electors to Trump.

Experts broadly believed this plan was illegal, and even Eastman himself privately admitted to the former president there was no basis for it in the law.

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https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/22/politics/justice-department-subpoenas-david-shafer-georgia-fake-trump-electors/index.html

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« Reply #5412 on: June 23, 2022, 02:22:57 PM »
Two of the reasons for worldwide high gas prices is:

1. Big Oil Price Gouging for profit.

2. Putin's Price Hike which is due to his war in Ukraine.

Right wingers were defending Putin yesterday. They said "Putin had nothing to do" with making gas prices soar. That is a lie.   

Right wing Faux Propaganda hack Sean Hannity was defending Putin on his propaganda program. He was spewing lies that "Joe Biden caused high gas prices" and not Putin.

Tennessee Senator and Putin apologist Marsha Blackburn, sent out several tweets defending Putin and falsely attacking Joe Biden with the same fake GOP talking points.

A President has nothing to do with gas prices, and the fact the entire world is paying record high gas prices when this war in Ukraine started proves that Putin is responsible for world high gas prices. Republicans and the right wing media are trying to gaslight us again just like they do with everything else they lie about.

Check out this graph. As you can see, gas prices began to rise as soon as Putin started assembling troops on the Ukraine border. As soon as he illegally invaded Ukraine, gas prices shot through the roof. So yes, that confirms the Putin Price Hike and debunks the lies coming from the right.   



We learned yesterday, that gas prices are dropping in America. President Biden has asked Congress to suspend the federal gas tax for three months to help ease the cost. It was also reported, that gas prices reached record highs all over the world due to Putin's war. Gas is cheaper in America than most of the world.

Gas prices around the world hit daily records, putting famous London cab drivers out of work
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https://www.cbsnews.com/video/gas-prices-around-the-world-hit-daily-records-putting-famous-london-cab-drivers-out-of-work/

Gas prices fall ahead of busy July 4th travel weekend
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gas-prices-5-a-gallon-fuel-stations-travel-holiday/

Another nail in the right wing propaganda coffin is this article from back in February, where experts were worried that Putin's war in Ukraine would make gas prices soar to $4 a gallon. And that is exactly what happened, except it increased to $5.

Putin's War Spikes Oil and Natural Gas Prices
Gasoline may reach an average of $4 per gallon.
2/24/22
https://reason.com/2022/02/24/putins-war-spikes-oil-and-natural-gas-prices/

Well, another right wing conspiracy has been easily debunked.

Putin's war in Ukraine spiked gas prices all over the world. High gas prices has nothing to do with Joe Biden as right wing Republicans and media hacks are lying about.

These are the same fraudsters who were lying about bogus "election fraud" saying that Criminal Donald won the 2020 election. They tried to help him steal it. So why would you believe anything these same right wingers have to say about gas prices?

These right wingers are fraudulent liars who lie about Joe Biden because they still want Criminal Donald back in the White House.

They have been proven to be liars again with factual documented evidence that debunks their lies.           

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« Reply #5413 on: June 23, 2022, 03:32:22 PM »
‘Positively unglued’ Arizona GOP boss is livid Rusty Bowers testified against Trump: report



The Arizona Republican Party is in disarray after GOP House Speaker Rusty Bowers publicly testified about Donald Trump's coup attempt before the House Select Committee Investigating the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol.

"State GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward has come positively unglued over Bowers’ testimony before the House Select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection, wherein he reminded us that there are still are Republicans who haven’t lost their ever living minds. Or their integrity," Arizona Republic columnist Laurie Roberts wrote. "In the last 24 hours, Ward has demeaned Bowers, belittled him and even embraced her inner fifth grade bully and given him a nickname: 'Rusty Bowels.'"

Roberts noted that even though she is chair of the party, she had endorsed Bowers' primary opponent.

"Let me say that again. The head of the Arizona Republican Party has taken sides in an Arizona Republican primary. Just as she’s in the bag for a Trump-endorsed Kari Lake in what amounts to a three-way Republican primary," Roberts wrote. "Other, more professional party operatives will tell you that never happens. The party’s role, they will tell you, is to remain neutral as the candidates duke it out a primary, then unite voters behind the party’s nominee."

Ward is backing former state Sen. David Farnsworth, who was one of 29 legislators who urged Mike Pence to accept their phony slate of electors.

Roberts noted a tweet where she suggested Bowers may have been bribed into not overturning the election.

"This guy has no idea what happened in Arizona’s 2020 election because he covered his eyes, plugged his ears, probably opened his wallet and let election fraud happen on his watch," she wrote.

Republican Sen. T.J. Shope publicly called out Ward.

"I’ve known Rusty for many years now and was honored to serve as his Speaker Pro Tempore. He’s a gentleman and a statesman of the highest order. The person quote-tweeted here is a maniacal Chair breaking rules endorsing candidates in a Primary and hellbent on destroying the GOP," he wrote.

Ward defended herself on Twitter claiming that intelligent people says “She’s an influential, motivated, relentless Chair determined to save Arizona & America.”

She did not list any of the "intelligent people" who are describing her in such a manner.

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« Reply #5414 on: June 23, 2022, 04:40:59 PM »
Fox News host left shocked by Jan. 6 hearing: 'Stunning' lack of evidence for Trump's fraud claims



Fox News host Martha MacCallum claimed after Tuesday's hearing of the House select committee on Jan. 6 that there was a "stunning" lack of evidence to back up Donald Trump's baseless claims of election fraud – a far cry from the channel's election-denying rhetoric leading up to the Capitol riot.

"It will be extremely useful in coming campaigns, especially the presidential, when you look back at what we have in terms of the Mike Pence part of all of this," MacCallum said in a broadcast this week. "So it is a political discussion. It is very compelling and the lack of evidence is the huge, stunning, clear moment here where these people are saying, 'Look I supported you, please give me something to work with,' and it simply doesn't materialize."

MacCallum also added that she suspects Democrats will attempt to break up GOP allegiances by calling Trump's bogus election claims into question.

The host's comments came after new testimony by Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers, a longtime state Republican who refused to allow Trump to challenge the 2020 elections results in the Grand Canyon State.

During his testimony, Bowers claimed that ex-Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani repeatedly pressured the lawmaker to do Trump's bidding and promised to provide evidence of widespread fraud. That evidence, he said, never materialized. "My recollection, [Giuliani] said, 'We've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence,'" Bowers claimed.

MacCallum's comments are also a significant deviation from the network's rhetoric in the months leading up to the Capitol riot. After Trump's loss, Fox News pundits repeatedly sowed doubt over the results of the 2020 election, and in particular, the integrity of Dominion and Smartmatic's voting machines, which were used to tabulate the votes in dozens of states across the country. Fox News' effort to delegitimize those machines has since become the subject of several multi-billion-dollar lawsuits by both companies alleging that their products were defamed by Fox News and a number of Trump allies.

Up until now, MacCallum has not directly weighed in on Donald Trump's failed conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election.

However, just after the January 6 attack, which was largely incited by the former president's spurious claims of fraud, MacCallum called the riot "a huge victory for these protesters."

"They have disrupted the system in an enormous way!" she beamed during a broadcast at the time, later comparing the insurrection to a peaceful protest organized outside the residence of Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo.

https://www.rawstory.com/fox-news-impeachment-hearings/

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How the fake Trump elector scheme fizzled in four states



Part of Donald Trump’s plan to reverse his loss in the 2020 presidential election hinged on replacing legitimate electors in a handful of swing states with “fake electors.”

In theory, these bogus Republican slates in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Nevada and Wisconsin would cast their electoral votes for the incumbent — canceling out the popular vote for Joe Biden in their states.

Groups of fake electors met on Dec. 14, 2020, in those seven states, an investigative counsel working for the panel, Casey Lucier, said in a video presentation shown in a Tuesday hearing of the U.S. House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

The hearing revealed some intriguing details of the fake elector plot, which the U.S. House panel says Trump and his lawyers knew was illegal, and how it played out in four states in particular:

ARIZONA

Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers, a self-described conservative Republican who campaigned for Trump in 2020, testified in person Tuesday about the pressure the Trump campaign put on him to revoke the state’s legitimate electors — and his steadfast refusal to participate.

Presidential elections in the United States are not straight popular vote contests, but are mediated by electoral college voters chosen by state, U.S. Rep. Adam Schiff, a California Democrat who led much of the hearing Tuesday, reminded the audience.

Trump Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, a former North Carolina congressman, and outside counsel Rudy Giuliani were involved in a discussion near Thanksgiving 2020 about having fake electors meet, Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Meadows, said.

Trump and Giuliani were also personally involved in a pressure campaign on state officials, according to committee testimony.

Some time after the election, Bowers received a call from Trump and Giuliani, who wanted the Arizona speaker to convene a committee to hear supposed evidence of election fraud, Bowers testified.

Bowers asked for evidence of fraud. It never materialized, and he declined in the coming weeks to form the committee.

Bowers told the panel he then asked Giuliani what the end goal of forming the committee would be. Giuliani said that a high-ranking Republican legislator had told the campaign that there was a legal theory that would allow the Legislature to replace electors for Biden with electors for Trump, and that the proposed committee could facilitate that.

Bowers said he hadn’t heard that legal theory. When Giuliani pressed the point, the speaker refused more pointedly.

“I said, ‘You are asking me to do something that is counter to my oath, when I swore to the Constitution to uphold it,’” Bowers said he told Giuliani.

“’And I also swore to the Constitution and the laws of the state of Arizona. And this is totally foreign as an idea or a theory to me, and I would never do anything of such magnitude without deep consultation with qualified attorneys.’”

He couldn’t recall the timing, but Bowers said Giuliani would appeal to their shared political party in an attempt to cajole him into helping Trump.

“He would say, ‘Aren’t we all Republicans here? I would think we would get a better reception,’” Bowers related Tuesday.

Bowers had gone public in December 2020 with a statement that Giuliani, fellow Trump attorney Jenna Ellis and others had made the “breathtaking request” that he replace Arizona’s electors with a slate for Trump.

Giuliani and Ellis made their case to Arizona lawmakers twice, he said, once with a small group of them and again in a closed-door meeting with Republican leaders in both chambers.

Tuesday, Bowers said that the small-group meeting took place because he’d denied an official legislative hearing.

On Jan. 4, two days before the attack on the Capitol, Bowers took a call from Trump lawyer John Eastman, who again asked him to hold a vote to decertify the state’s election results.

Bowers again invoked his oath of office in declining, he said.

“I said, ‘What would you have me do?’” Bowers said of his Jan. 4 call with Eastman. “And he said, ‘Just do it and let the courts sort it out.’”

Finally, on Jan. 6, U.S. Rep. Andy Biggs, another Arizona Republican, called Bowers to ask him to support the decertification of the electors, Bowers said Tuesday. The speaker again declined, he said.

A spokesman for Biggs did not return messages seeking comment this week.

MICHIGAN

Republican lawmakers across the country were feeling similar pressure.

Trump invited leaders from Michigan and Pennsylvania to the White House in November 2020.

Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey told Trump he would follow Michigan law, meaning he would award the state’s electors to Biden, Shirkey said in a taped deposition.

On Facebook the next day, Trump disclosed Shirkey’s cell phone number. The majority leader then received almost 4,000 text messages “calling to take action,” he said. Many asked him to replace the state’s electors, he said.

State lawmakers did not have that power, he said.

“They were believing things that were untrue,” Shirkey said of the correspondence.

Schiff pointed out during the hearing that there cannot be substitutes of electors.

“There is only one legitimate slate of electors from each state. On the sixth day of January, Congress meets in a joint session to count those votes and the winner of the Electoral College vote becomes the president,” Schiff said.

“President Trump and his campaign were directly involved in advancing and coordinating the plot to replace legitimate Biden electors with fake electors not chosen by the voters.”

Michigan was also the site of one of the most bizarre episodes in the scheme.

A group of fake electors considered hiding in the state Capitol overnight because of a state law that required elector certification to be in that building, according to Laura Cox, the former GOP chair in the state who testified in a taped deposition.

Cox said she found this out from an attorney working with the Trump campaign. The Detroit News identified the attorney as Robert Norton, a Hillsdale College official. The video clip does not include Norton’s first name.

“He told me that the Michigan Republican electors were planning to meet in the Capitol and hide overnight so that they could fulfill the role of casting their vote per law in the Michigan chambers,” Cox said. “And I told him in no uncertain terms that that was insane and inappropriate.”

Michigan’s fake electors did meet, but did not make it inside the Capitol.

They did, though, apparently have a U.S. senator willing to deliver their names to the vice president on Jan. 6, according to a text exchange the committee revealed Tuesday.

The chief of staff for U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson, a Wisconsin Republican, texted an aide to then-Vice President Mike Pence that Johnson would hand the vice president elector votes from Wisconsin and Michigan. The Pence aide clearly texted not to follow that plan through.

A Johnson spokeswoman said Tuesday he “had no involvement in the creation of an alternate slate of electors and had no foreknowledge that it was going to be delivered to our office.”

WISCONSIN

In Johnson’s home state, local Republican officials were misled about the fake elector scheme.

Rather than being used as a pretext for Pence to overturn the election results — which he refused to do — officials in Wisconsin thought the Trump slate of electors would be sent to the U.S. Capitol only in the event a court overturned the state’s election results.

“I was told that these would only count if a court ruled in our favor,” Andrew Hitt, the former chair of the state party said in video testimony. “So that would have been using our electors in ways that we weren’t told about and that we wouldn’t have supported.”

Eastman believed a dispute over which electors to count would be “enough” for Pence to certify the Trump slate, Eastman wrote in an email to a campaign staffer.

Jan. 4 text messages the panel acquired between Wisconsin GOP workers show the Trump team asked about bringing fake elector paperwork to Washington on Jan. 6.

“Freaking trump [sic] idiots want someone to fly original elector papers to the senate President,” one text read.

GEORGIA

The panel played a Dec. 3, 2020, video call showing Eastman, the architect of the false elector scheme, advocating for Georgia lawmakers to “to adopt a slate of electors yourselves.”

Eastman told the legislators that their counterparts in Florida were “prepared to do” the same thing.

The lawmakers were not only able, but should be compelled to overturn their state’s election results because of “outright election fraud,” Eastman said on the call.

Former Attorney General Bill Barr, Trump campaign officials and others have testified throughout earlier hearings that widespread voter fraud to overturn the election did not exist and there was no evidence to support the claim.

https://lailluminator.com/2022/06/23/how-the-trump-fake-elector-scheme-fizzled-in-four-states/

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« Reply #5417 on: June 24, 2022, 01:30:40 AM »
This is clear treason.

Criminal Donald knew he lost the election and there was no election fraud. He was pressuring the Deputy Attorney General to illegally "declare the election was corrupt" and then leave the rest to him and his Republican congressmen to steal the election. These are his words and his own criminal intent. These same Republican congressmen were asking for pardons because they knew this was a crime.   

"Just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the congressmen” - Donald Trump asked deputy A.G Richard Donoghue


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« Reply #5418 on: June 24, 2022, 03:41:43 AM »
These are the 6 insurrectionist Republican congressmen who asked Criminal Donald for blanket preemptive presidential pardons for their roles in the January 6 Insurrection. The only reason someone would ask for a blanket presidential pardon is because they know they are guilty of committing a serious crime.         


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Brian Kemp to testify against Trump in ‘sworn recorded statement’ to Fulton grand jury: report

The Republican governor of Georgia special dispensation from Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis to testify via videotape before the special grand jury investigating Donald Trump's attempted coup.

"Gov. Brian Kemp will deliver testimony next month to Fulton County prosecutors investigating Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn Georgia’s 2020 elections, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution has learned. But unlike the parade of witnesses who have appeared at the Fulton courthouse to answer questions in front of a special grand jury, the Republican will instead deliver a “sworn recorded statement,” according to a letter from the Fulton County District Attorney’s office dated Wednesday and obtained by the AJC on Thursday," the newspaper reported.

Kemp's refusal to overturn the election resulted in Trump's ire, and he was unsuccessfully challenged in the state's GOP primary by former Sen. David Perdue.

"In the letter to Kemp’s attorney, Nathan Wade, a special prosecutor hired by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis to help with the investigation, said the DA’s office agreed to the terms 'in a spirit of cooperation with the Governor and his schedule.' Kemp’s sworn examination will take place on July 25," the newspaper reported.

His office also received as subpoena for documents, which must be turned over 72 hours in advance.



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