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« Reply #5430 on: June 23, 2022, 12:08:36 AM »
'Everybody knows he's lying': Morning Joe shreds Ron Johnson's defense after he's snared in Trump's conspiracy

MSNBC's Joe Scarborough and conservative attorney George Conway aren't buying Sen. Ron Johnson's excuses about his participation in a conspiracy to deliver fake electors to vice president Mike Pence.

The Wisconsin Republican was implicated in Donald Trump's scheme to overturn his election loss during Tuesday's hearing of the House select committee, and Johnson responded to reporters afterward by pretending to be on his phone and then blaming his involvement on staffers.

"Oh, I mean, this is just hysterical, I mean, he's clearly covering up," Conway said. "He's clearly not telling the truth here. But this whole fake elector thing, I mean, it's -- it really is highlighting the fact that this is, you know, criminal fraudulent conspiracy to create false documentation and you have -- you can't hand out counterfeit bills to people saying, well, the bank made a mistake, so this would be real money if the bank hadn't made a mistake. This is exactly the same thing, and the evidence yesterday showed it, Ronna Romney McDaniel's testimony showed. He was all in on the fake elector scheme which involved fraudulent, false documentation. It doesn't matter if he reads that somehow he did or should have won and has all sorts of facts that he claims he should have won."

"He was conspiring to commit -- to throw in false documents," Conway added, "and it's sort of interesting, too, because you have Rudy [Giuliani] saying, we've got all of these legal theories, but no evidence, and then you have a judge out in California, Judge [David] Carter saying this was a coup in search of legal theory. Well, they had coups in search of legal theories that didn't have evidence. I mean, it is absolutely a complete sham. You know if this doesn't show fraudulent intent of these co-conspirators all the way up to Donald Trump I don't know what does."

Johnson claims that an unspecified House intern gave his office an envelope containing fraudulent elector documents and asked his staff to pass it along to Pence on Jan. 6, 2021, but Scarborough -- a former Republican member of the House -- said that explanation strains credibility.

"I think it goes without saying that nobody that ever worked with me would have ever done that on a single vote, certainly would have never passed anything to anybody in leadership, in the House leadership or the Senate leadership, without passing it by me first," Scarborough said. "It just -- it doesn't work that way. I would have people saying, 'Oh, Joe, you're supposed to be so conservative, and yet, you have moderate Republicans and Democrats on your staff, and I go, 'They don't vote, I do.' They go, 'Oh, they're going to impose' -- what are you talking about?"

"Ron Johnson knows that," he added. "Yes, every member -- by the way, you bring up a great point here. I know that's a lie because I served as one of 435 in the little House, but in the House of Lords this definitely never happens, right, and it certainly wouldn't happen with somebody that's been in office for as long as Ron Johnson's been in office. It will never happen that way, so everybody on the Hill, including other Republicans, knows he's lying."

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Jan. 6 committee exposes the disturbing consequences of Trump's 2020 lies



The scope of Donald Trump’s effort to subvert the 2020 election widened in the congressional testimony on June 22 as Republican state legislators, state election officials and local election workers described Trump’s pressure campaigns and bullying that targeted them and led to them facing severe harassment for doing their jobs.

“There is nowhere I feel safe. Nowhere,” said Ruby Freeman, who, with her daughter, Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, were election workers at an Atlanta arena and were repeatedly named and smeared by Trump and his lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, for what the men falsely said was an attempt at stealing Georgia votes for Joe Biden.

“Do you know how it feels to have the president of the United States to target you?” Freeman continued. “The president of the United States is supposed to represent every American, not to target one. But he targeted me.”

A video of the two women as they resumed processing ballots after an evening break was mischaracterized and widely circulated by Trump’s allies. Giuliani told Georgia’s state Senate that the Black women were criminals. Trump said they were part of a conspiracy to steal the election, which led his supporters to threaten and stalk the women, and even saw vigilantes barge into Freeman’s elderly mother’s home to attempt a “citizen’s arrest” of her and Moss.

The January 6 hearings have shown that it was Trump and his minions—not Democrats, nor state officials who followed their oaths of office, nor local election workers who did their jobs—who plotted to overturn the election, and who embraced lying, ignoring laws, harassment and violence to seize the presidency.

“Donald Trump did not care about the threats of violence. He did not condemn them… He went forward with his fake allegations,” said Rep. Liz Cheney, R-WY, the panel’s co-chair. “We cannot let America become a nation of conspiracy theories and thug violence.”

From a legal standpoint, the hearing of June 22 directly tied Trump to one scheme where complicit Republican Party officials and state office holders knowingly forged and signed fake Electoral College certificates that declared Trump, not Biden, won their state’s votes. That scheme emerged after Trump could not get any Republican governor or GOD-led legislature to reconvene to award him an Electoral College victory despite Biden winning the state’s popular vote.

But what stood out was Trump’s boorish and boundary-breaking harassment of legislator leaders and top election officials who would not bend to his will to overturn their state’s election results. Trump’s ongoing claims that the election was stolen have sparked many copycat candidacies in 2022 among right-wing Republicans. That posturing continued and targeted the panel’s opening witness, underscoring the threat that Trump’s cadre still poses.

Before the hearing began, Trump issued a statement saying that the first witness, Rusty Bowers, the Republican longtime speaker of its House, had personally told Trump in November 2020 that Arizona’s election had been “rigged” for Biden. Bowers was present to describe Trump’s efforts, from receiving phone calls from President Trump to lobbying by his legal team, to push Bowers to launch an unprecedented legislative process to retract Biden’s victory.

“Before we begin with the questions I have prepared for you, I want to ask you about a statement that former President Trump issued, which I received just prior to the hearing,” said Rep. Adam Schiff, D-CA. “Former President Trump begins by calling you a RINO, Republican in Name Only. He then references a conversation in November 2020, in which he claims that you told him that the election was rigged, and that he had won Arizona… Did you have such a conversation?”

“I did have a conversation with the president. That certainly isn’t it,” Bowers said. “Anywhere, anyone, anytime has said that I said the election was rigged—that would not be true.”

Bowers went on to testify that Trump pushed and then bullied him to convene a special legislative session to revoke Biden’s victory. (Michigan’s Senate President, Republican Mike Shirkey, told the panel the same thing in a videotaped interview: Trump had pushed him to take the steps needed to declare him the state’s Electoral College vote winner.)

Bowers testified that he told Trump that he did not have the authority to do so under Arizona’s state constitution and the federal constitution, and that he would not violate his oath of office to do so. Shirkey told Trump much the same thing.

Then Trump moved on to a second ploy based on an untested legal theory by John Eastman, a lawyer who argued that state legislatures had the power to ignore the popular vote and appoint Electoral College slates of their choosing. The so-called fake-elector plan involved Ronna McDaniel, the Republican National Committee chairwoman, who Trump asked to promote it—another disclosure that was made on June 22.

In that same conversation with Bowers, Trump claimed to speak on behalf of other senior Arizona lawmakers, Bowers recounted, to pressure the speaker to hold a hearing on Eastman’s theory—which would lend it credibility.

“I said to what end? To what end the hearing?” Bowers recounted. “He said, ‘Well, we have heard by an official high up in the Republican legislature that there is a legal theory or a legal ability in Arizona, that you can remove the electors of President Biden and replace them. And we would like to have a legitimate opportunity through the committee… And I said, ‘That’s totally new to me. I’ve never heard of any such thing.’ And he pressed that point.”

Trump’s lie-laced pressure tactics didn’t end there. Giuliani kept lobbying Bowers. Then came more bullying. When Bowers did not budge, Trump supporters went to his home and held menacing protests, he said. The protests occurred while his daughter was very ill at home and would soon pass away.

“We had a daughter who was gravely ill, who was upset by what was happening outside,” he said.

At the hearing on June 22, numerous Republican and Democratic legislators and state election officials described how Trump’s foot soldiers threatened them on social media, published their private contact information online and stalked them outside their homes—which neither Trump nor his team discouraged, as Cheney noted.

The officials who recounted this harassment included Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican who testified, Michigan’s Mike Shirkey, a Republican, Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, a Democrat, and Pennsylvania House Speaker Bryan Cutler, a Republican.

Raffensperger recounted how someone broke into his daughter-in-law’s home after the election, which he attributed to the threats he received. When asked why he didn’t leave his job or cave to Trump, his reply was much the same as Bowers: he felt he had a public duty to oversee a constitutional process even if it meant that his party did not win the White House.

“I knew that we had followed the law, we had followed the Constitution,” Raffensperger said. “You’re doing your job. And that’s what we did.”

But not every witness had a story of valor under duty. Georgia’s Ruby Freeman said that the targeting of her by Trump and Giuliani led to the loss of her business, a loss of privacy and her sense of security. She was afraid to use her name in public, she testified, because she feared it could provoke more harassment.

“I’ve lost my name and I’ve lost my reputation,” she said.

And her daughter, Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, told the committee that she had to leave her job as an election worker after a decade, leave her home and go into hiding—as advised by the FBI—and became deeply depressed. But she was most upset because of the threats made by Trump’s thugs to her grandmother—who called her in a panic when his foot soldiers barged into her house seeking to make a “citizens’ arrest” of her and her mother.

“It was my fault for putting my family in this situation,” she said, referring to her work as an election official.

“It wasn’t your fault,” Schiff replied.

But that morning, Trump was back at it—putting false words into another witness’s mouth, as if nothing mattered except his return to power.

This article was produced by Voting Booth, a project of the Independent Media Institute.

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CBS News pics show access British filmmaker had to Trump family around Jan. 6: report

CBS News on Wednesday revealed it has obtained two images from video show the access he had to the Trump family before and after the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

"Well, now to some exclusive reporting ahead of tomorrow's Jan. 6 hearing, CBS News has learned that the committee has gained access to footage from inside the White House, both before and after the attack on the Capitol," Nora O'Donnell reported.

"What have we learned?" she asked reporter Robert Costa.

"There are new, breaking developments on the Jan. 6 front. the committee announced today it will hold additional hearings in July because it keeps gathering new evidence," Costa replied.

"Some of that new evidence comes from British filmmaker Alex Holder, who is going to meet with the committee tomorrow morning in a private deposition. CBS News has exclusively obtained two images from his upcoming three-part series called 'Unprecedented.' One shows him interviewing Ivanka Trump, the president's eldest daughter, the other shows him interviewing President Trump," Costa reported.

"He talked to trump both before and after Jan. 6," he explained. "It reveals the access he had to the inside of the Trump inner circle during that period."

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Trump's crazed mob inflicts terror on ordinary Americans



There is so much evidence emerging from the January 6th hearings that it's sometimes hard to wrap your arms around what it all means. They are making a strong case that Donald Trump knew the election was legitimate yet spread the Big Lie that it was stolen anyway. He was also told that his scheme to have his vice president, Mike Pence, overturn the election was illegal and unconstitutional. The committee on Tuesday, during its fourth hearing, laid out how Trump was intimately involved in the pressure campaign to persuade Republican state officials to illegally change the legitimate results and "decertify" the will of the people. Future hearings will discuss the plot to corrupt the Department of Justice(DOJ) and incite the mob to intimidate the joint session of Congress and the vice president into overturning the election.

All roads lead to Trump and his henchmen. It's clear that there were many enablers around him — as even those who resisted internally didn't publicly sound the alarm.

Trump ordered the Republican National Committee to "help" with the "fake elector" scheme, knowing that there was no constitutionally valid alternative, which they were happy to do. Yet the so-called Team Normal surrounding Trump, who knew their leader was staging a coup, simply shrugged and backed away quietly. Lawyers in Trump's orbit testified that they knew the "fake elector" scheme was illegal and unethical and simply washed their hands of it rather than step up to say something.

Nonetheless, there were Republican officials who did their duty and Tuesday's hearings featured three of them.

Arizona's Speaker of the House Rusty Bowers movingly testified to the intense pressure brought to bear on him to use his office to help Trump overturn the election in his state. Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger talked about that famous phone call in which Trump asked him to "find" just enough votes for him to win and Gabriel Sterling, the Chief Operating Officer of Raffensperger's office, spoke at length about how the accusations of fraud were disproved over and over again. Unlike most of the people around Trump (and many in the states), these were people who took their oaths of office seriously and refused to do Donald Trump's bidding. Their testimony in that regard was very compelling.

Hovering over all these hearings, however, is the ongoing threat of political violence and that narrative is unfolding right along with the narrative of the coup plot itself. The violence was unleashed long before Jan. 6th and looking back it seems inevitable that it was leading to an insurrection. Tuesday's hearing illustrated how that was felt by the individuals on the receiving end of those threats. Various officials relayed their experiences with threats and harassment at their homes and on their jobs, some of which is ongoing. Bowers's gravely ill daughter and neighbors, for instance, were threatened and he still has video panel trucks running by his house and in his neighborhood calling him a pedophile and pervert. Raffensperger's wife got what he called "sexualized" threats and Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson was intimidated at her home. These stories can be repeated all over the country as elected officials were harassed for failing to follow Trump's orders to make him the winner of the 2020 election regardless of the legitimate election results.

But that was nothing compared to the horrors inflicted on innocent election workers who were targeted for allegedly cheating on behalf of Joe Biden. None suffered more than Fulton County election worker Shaye Moss and her mother Ruby Freeman, both of whom gave testimony to the committee.

In his famous phone call to Raffensperger, Donald Trump called Freeman a "professional vote scammer and hustler." His lawyer Rudy Giuliani told a Georgia legislative hearing that the two women were committing voter fraud, "surreptitiously passing around USB ports as if they are vials of heroin or cocaine." It turned out that the "USB ports" (the supposed tech expert meant USB drive) was actually a mint that Freeman passed to her daughter. This disgusting slander was all over right-wing media:

And where did that come from? It started in the far corners of the right-wing fever swamp and ended up on Fox News and in Donald Trump's mouth.

Moss described how her life was turned upside down by what Trump and his followers did to them. Angry Trumpers tried to push through her grandmother's front door saying they were there to make a citizen's arrest. The FBI told Freeman she needed to leave her home because her life was in danger. Both of them are afraid to use their names in public and Moss has quit her job as an election worker along with everyone she worked with on the 2020 election. These women were hounded, harassed and threatened all because Donald Trump's ego wouldn't let him admit he lost the election and many of his followers have lost all common sense and common decency.

The violence of January 6th had been a long time coming, even before the election.

We saw state houses taken over by armed militia "protesting" mask mandates. Public health officials were threatened at their homes. School board members were plagued with taunts of "we know how to find you" at public meetings. Many of these "protesters" are armed.

The RNC even called January 6th "legitimate political discourse." The threat of political violence is now an everyday feature of right-wing political activism.

Trump didn't create this phenomenon. He's just the first president to openly endorse it and coerce the GOP establishment to fully embrace it. The violent rhetoric of the right-wing media was way ahead of him. Recall original gangster Rush Limbaugh who said decades ago now, "I tell people don't kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus — living fossils…. " Or consider Ann Coulter when asked what was her biggest ethical dilemma said, "There was one time I had a shot at Clinton. I thought 'Ann, that's not going to help your career.'"

Violent rhetoric has been the coin of the realm in right-wing media since Trump was a Democrat. But it's gone into overdrive since he came on the scene and his Big Lie and coup attempt were destined to end up with people getting hurt and killed.

We don't yet know what the committee has uncovered about Trump's knowledge of the various violent plots that were cooked up around January 6th. It's possible he knew nothing of them. But that doesn't absolve him of responsibility for the atmosphere he amplified during his time in office. He not only publicly modeled the bullying and authoritarian style of the mob boss, but he also encouraged his followers to use threats and intimidation to force political acquiescence over democratic means. Of course, they would resort to violence. That's the whole point.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-s-crazed-mob-inflicts-terror-on-ordinary-americans/

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‘Clearly a crime’: Watergate prosecutor says Jan. 6 hearings have presented damning evidence against Trump



Speaking on CNN this Wednesday, former assistant prosecutor in the Watergate scandal, Nick Ackerman, said that testimony before the Jan. 6 committee from Arizona GOP Rep. Rusty Bowers was "definitely" evidence of former President Donald Trump's commission of a crime.

"I mean, what he did with Bowers clearly was a crime," Ackerman said. "And when you combine it with what he did with [Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger], it's a pattern that emerges here with two of the battleground states."

Bowers was the first of several witnesses at Tuesday’s hearing who testified about efforts by Trump and his inner circle to reverse the 2020 election's results by pressuring state officials to put forward false slates of electors.

"[Trump] was just trying to find more votes," Ackerman continued. "He was trying to pull off a coup, and he was trying to do something that was a fraud on the government and also an obstruction of what Congress's due right is under the Electoral College Act."

"No question there is a crime committed here," he added.

Bowers, speaker of the Arizona House of Representatives, also testified that he asked Giuliani "on multiple occasions" for evidence of his stolen election claims.

He told committee members Giuliani said "we've got lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence."

Trump issued a statement, read out during the hearing, attempting to discredit Bowers, calling him a "RINO" -- Republican In Name Only -- and claiming that the lawmaker had told Trump the election was rigged and that Trump had in fact won Arizona.

But Bowers said both claims were false.

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FBI executes search warrant on top Nevada Republican — who was a Trump phony elector: report

The investigation into the phony electors scheme by Trump supporters attempting to overturn the 2020 presidential election appeared to escalate on Wednesday.

"FBI agents served a search warrant Wednesday on Nevada’s top GOP official, sources told the 8 News Now I-Team’s George Knapp. Agents seized the cell phone of state Republican chairman Michael McDonald, reportedly as part of an investigation into the fake elector scheme initiated at the end of the 2020 presidential election," KLAS reported. "A second search warrant was issued for state party secretary James DeGraffenreid, who also signed the document, but FBI agents could not locate him Wednesday, sources told Knapp."

The Nevada Republican Party posted a press release and publicity photo that remains on its website:

"Today, the Nevada Republican Presidential Electors convened at the Nevada Legislative Building in our state’s capitol to cast their electoral votes for the rightful victors of Nevada, President Donald J. Trump and Vice President Michael Pence. These electoral votes will be sent to the United State’s Congress where they will be read on January 6th," the Nevada GOP announced on Dec. 14, 2020.

McDonald issued a statement:

“In a historic move, the Nevada Presidential Electors convened in Nevada’s capitol today to cast their 6 electoral votes for President Donald J. Trump and Vice President Michael Pence. The people of Nevada did not have a fair election due to the irregularities and fraud seen throughout the state. With ongoing challenges and evidence left to be meaningfully investigated, we must submit our electoral votes for the rightful victors and allow Congress to make a determination," he said.

They even posted their scheme on social media.

Nevada GOP @NVGOP

Our brave electors standing up for what is right and casting their electoral votes for @realDonaldTrump.

We believe in fair elections and will continue the fight against voter fraud in the Silver State!




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Fake elector and Trump staffer in Arizona subpoenaed by the Justice Department as part of election overthrow case

The Justice Department has filed fresh subpoenas for two people allegedly involved in the attempt to overturn the 2020 election, the Washington Post noted Wednesday afternoon.

Ahead of the fifth public hearing for the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack and the plot that led up to it, FBI agents were at the home of Georgia lawyer Brad Carver and Thomas Lane, who lives in Virginia.

Carver was among the 16 fake electors that President Donald Trump's campaign recruited to sign off on an official document saying that they were "duly elected and qualified electors." Carver is a proud member of the Republican National Lawyers Association and lobbyist whose firm the Republican Party paid $81,000 to defend Georgia's new voting restrictions.

It was a fluke that Carver was one of the fraudulent electors as he stepped in when four of the 16 Trump "electors" didn't show up for the meeting on Dec. 14, 2020. The electors conducted a ceremony, falsely signed the official documents and sent the papers to Congress and the National Archives.

Carver did have a Twitter account that continues to show up in Google searches but has since been deleted.

Lane worked for Trump's campaign in Arizona and New Mexico. According to his LinkedIn profile, while Lane worked for Trump for President, Inc, from Aug 2020-Jan. 2021. At the same time he was working for the National Republican Senatorial Committee (RSC) as their Election Day Operations Director — Special Projects from Dec. 2020 to Jan. 2021. He began a job as the Election Integrity State Director for Virginia in Aug. 2021.

Despite being employed by the Republican Party in Dec. 2020, someone named Thomas Lane who worked in Republican politics in Arizona in Dec. 2020, testified under oath that he was observing the election vote count on behalf of a campaign opposing Proposition 207, which would legalize recreational cannabis, the Arizona Mirror reported in 2020.

"Thomas Lane was one of a half dozen observers whom Ward’s attorney, Jack Wilenchik, called to the stand. Lane, who was observing on behalf of the campaign opposing Proposition 207, which legalizes recreational marijuana, said he watched election workers mistakenly negate votes for Trump," the report claimed. "He said the software that tries to prefill what it believes to be the voter’s choices generally favored Biden, regardless of what the original ballot said."

Lane claimed that election workers caught and corrected them. He also testified that there were serial numbers used to find duplicated ballots.

As the Post explained, the DOJ released the addresses of the people where they staged the raids and those addresses match the men.

"The precise nature of the information being sought by the Justice Department wasn’t immediately clear; however, Arizona and Georgia officials testified Tuesday to a House panel probing the Jan. 6 attacks about attempts by Trump and his inner circle of advisers to try to reverse Biden’s electoral college victories in those states," the report explained.

There is a list of about 15 other people subpoenaed by the DOJ.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/06/22/jan6-fbi-electors-subpoenas/

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All these Republican criminals are getting hit with DOJ subpoenas for trying to steal the election with fake electors. The DOJ ain't playing around.

Georgia GOP chairman hit with DOJ subpoena in fake elector investigation: report



On Wednesday, CNN reported that the Justice Department has issued a subpoena to Georgia Republican Party Chair David Shafer as part of its investigation into the pro-Trump fake "electors" that were seeking to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

This comes as the DOJ expands its probe, issuing subpoenas to a wide list of GOP officials in multiple states.

"Federal investigators subpoenaed the Georgia Republican Party chairman for information related to the fake elector scheme there — as the Justice Department has issued a fresh round of subpoenas to people from several states who acted as rogue electors after the 2020 presidential election, multiple sources familiar with the situation told CNN," reported Zachary Cohen, Sara Murray, Katelyn Polantz, Evan Perez, and Marshall Cohen. "The subpoena for the chairman, David Shafer, represents a significant step because he played a central role in organizing the fake slate of electors from Georgia and coordinated the effort with the Trump campaign."

Shafer, who has previously stirred controversy by tweeting in support of Russia's Vladimir Putin, signed his name to the slate of fake electors, which experts have argued could open him up to legal jeopardy.

The fake elector scheme was part of a plan detailed in a memo by far-right Trump attorney John Eastman. As part of the plan, Vice President Mike Pence would use the fake electors as proof that several states President Joe Biden won were disputed, and thus discard the real electors, throwing the majority of "counted" electors to Trump.

Experts broadly believed this plan was illegal, and even Eastman himself privately admitted to the former president there was no basis for it in the law.

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Two of the reasons for worldwide high gas prices is:

1. Big Oil Price Gouging for profit.

2. Putin's Price Hike which is due to his war in Ukraine.

Right wingers were defending Putin yesterday. They said "Putin had nothing to do" with making gas prices soar. That is a lie.   

Right wing Faux Propaganda hack Sean Hannity was defending Putin on his propaganda program. He was spewing lies that "Joe Biden caused high gas prices" and not Putin.

Tennessee Senator and Putin apologist Marsha Blackburn, sent out several tweets defending Putin and falsely attacking Joe Biden with the same fake GOP talking points.

A President has nothing to do with gas prices, and the fact the entire world is paying record high gas prices when this war in Ukraine started proves that Putin is responsible for world high gas prices. Republicans and the right wing media are trying to gaslight us again just like they do with everything else they lie about.

Check out this graph. As you can see, gas prices began to rise as soon as Putin started assembling troops on the Ukraine border. As soon as he illegally invaded Ukraine, gas prices shot through the roof. So yes, that confirms the Putin Price Hike and debunks the lies coming from the right.   



We learned yesterday, that gas prices are dropping in America. President Biden has asked Congress to suspend the federal gas tax for three months to help ease the cost. It was also reported, that gas prices reached record highs all over the world due to Putin's war. Gas is cheaper in America than most of the world.

Gas prices around the world hit daily records, putting famous London cab drivers out of work
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https://www.cbsnews.com/video/gas-prices-around-the-world-hit-daily-records-putting-famous-london-cab-drivers-out-of-work/

Gas prices fall ahead of busy July 4th travel weekend
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gas-prices-5-a-gallon-fuel-stations-travel-holiday/

Another nail in the right wing propaganda coffin is this article from back in February, where experts were worried that Putin's war in Ukraine would make gas prices soar to $4 a gallon. And that is exactly what happened, except it increased to $5.

Putin's War Spikes Oil and Natural Gas Prices
Gasoline may reach an average of $4 per gallon.
2/24/22
https://reason.com/2022/02/24/putins-war-spikes-oil-and-natural-gas-prices/

Well, another right wing conspiracy has been easily debunked.

Putin's war in Ukraine spiked gas prices all over the world. High gas prices has nothing to do with Joe Biden as right wing Republicans and media hacks are lying about.

These are the same fraudsters who were lying about bogus "election fraud" saying that Criminal Donald won the 2020 election. They tried to help him steal it. So why would you believe anything these same right wingers have to say about gas prices?

These right wingers are fraudulent liars who lie about Joe Biden because they still want Criminal Donald back in the White House.

They have been proven to be liars again with factual documented evidence that debunks their lies.           

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‘Positively unglued’ Arizona GOP boss is livid Rusty Bowers testified against Trump: report



The Arizona Republican Party is in disarray after GOP House Speaker Rusty Bowers publicly testified about Donald Trump's coup attempt before the House Select Committee Investigating the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol.

"State GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward has come positively unglued over Bowers’ testimony before the House Select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection, wherein he reminded us that there are still are Republicans who haven’t lost their ever living minds. Or their integrity," Arizona Republic columnist Laurie Roberts wrote. "In the last 24 hours, Ward has demeaned Bowers, belittled him and even embraced her inner fifth grade bully and given him a nickname: 'Rusty Bowels.'"

Roberts noted that even though she is chair of the party, she had endorsed Bowers' primary opponent.

"Let me say that again. The head of the Arizona Republican Party has taken sides in an Arizona Republican primary. Just as she’s in the bag for a Trump-endorsed Kari Lake in what amounts to a three-way Republican primary," Roberts wrote. "Other, more professional party operatives will tell you that never happens. The party’s role, they will tell you, is to remain neutral as the candidates duke it out a primary, then unite voters behind the party’s nominee."

Ward is backing former state Sen. David Farnsworth, who was one of 29 legislators who urged Mike Pence to accept their phony slate of electors.

Roberts noted a tweet where she suggested Bowers may have been bribed into not overturning the election.

"This guy has no idea what happened in Arizona’s 2020 election because he covered his eyes, plugged his ears, probably opened his wallet and let election fraud happen on his watch," she wrote.

Republican Sen. T.J. Shope publicly called out Ward.

"I’ve known Rusty for many years now and was honored to serve as his Speaker Pro Tempore. He’s a gentleman and a statesman of the highest order. The person quote-tweeted here is a maniacal Chair breaking rules endorsing candidates in a Primary and hellbent on destroying the GOP," he wrote.

Ward defended herself on Twitter claiming that intelligent people says “She’s an influential, motivated, relentless Chair determined to save Arizona & America.”

She did not list any of the "intelligent people" who are describing her in such a manner.

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