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Offline Paul May

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part
« Reply #973 on: July 28, 2020, 03:49:07 AM »
What do we actually know about the election 99 days out? Well historically all the pressure is on the incumbent. Why? When an incumbent like Trump is running for reelection, the election is mainly a referendum on the incumbent’s performance,” Center for Politics wrote.

So, what has Trump accomplished legislatively while the GOP controlled the Senate? Um. Er. Scratching my head here. Help! Lots and lots of Executive orders but legislation doesn’t boring a bell. Ah, the huge tax break for the 1% and corporate America. Who could forget that. What else?

I recall an impeachment. I recall his breaking treaties with long term allies. I recall all his new nice friends from N. Korea, Russia, Turkey and several other despotic countries. Didn’t he pull out of the climate change accords? But legislatively, what’s he done to help average Americans in 3 1/2 years?

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #974 on: July 28, 2020, 04:15:29 AM »
Right wing extremists infiltrating peaceful protests to cause violence.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #975 on: July 28, 2020, 04:16:34 AM »
The "Surging Black Voter Support" those of You on the outside looking in will gain access to when the Fake News SURVEYS Reveal it. They KNOW Now, which is why Racist Biden is hastily amping up the Fake News PR Campaign for his VP selection. If "Fuzzy" taps Rice, that is verification that this is actually Obama 2.0

Surge, surge, surge with your 5%  :D


Poll: Biden notches 7-point lead in North Carolina

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/biden-notches-lead-north-carolina-382259
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #976 on: July 28, 2020, 04:18:20 AM »

President Trump is down in the polls. The Republican National Convention is mostly canceled. And now, some Republicans are contemplating the unthinkable: Would they be better off losing in November and rebuilding for 2024?

“The thought is starting to cross people’s minds,” said a Republican strategist who requested anonymity to speak candidly. “One way or the other, there will be life after Trump.”

This remains a small minority position among Republicans. Trump’s popularity with rank-and-file party members endures. Even a recent Fox News poll that contained mostly bad news for Trump showed 73% of his supporters were happy with their choices, compared to 62% of presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s. But Trump has never been particularly strong with the GOP’s governing and consultant class, dating back to 2016, and his relationship with them has waxed and waned with his political fortunes.

The theory is that if Trump is defeated, Democrats led by an aging and diminished Biden will pursue an unpopular left-wing political agenda and inherit the pandemic, economic downturn, and civil unrest. Republicans would likely recover in the midterm elections in 2022, possibly regaining a chamber or two of Congress. This could put the party in a strong position to turn the page on Trump in 2024.

This is roughly how it played out for the GOP in the midterm elections of 1994, 2010, and 2014 in response to the Democratic presidencies of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. But they failed to defeat Clinton and Obama for reelection, so both Democrats served eight years despite their party's down-ballot losses.

Obama secured Obamacare and put two liberals on the Supreme Court, though the Senate GOP blocked a third. Clinton won a tax increase Republicans later partially repealed, a crime bill with a since-expired assault weapons ban, and also added two liberals to the Supreme Court. Even so, his welfare reform, a capital gains tax cut, and the balanced budget were more to Republicans’ liking. The Clinton healthcare bill was defeated before Republicans won their first House majority in 40 years. If Biden wins, the question would be whether something like Medicare for All or two additional liberal justices would happen before the next GOP electoral triumph.


“The argument is basically whether the country could withstand the Left's agenda for two years, especially if Schumer gets rid of the filibuster, if Biden wins, and the Senate goes down,” said a second Republican strategist. “Versus, can we wait another four years for the party to start to recover from Trump.”

One fear Republicans had of Trump’s 2016 candidacy was that he would reduce the party’s share of the Hispanic vote to something approximating its frequently single-digit percentage of the black vote. While Trump receives poor marks in most polls for his handling of race relations, that hasn’t happened. Trump slightly improved on Mitt Romney’s 2012 performance with minority voters, and Republican candidates continued to win between a quarter and a third of Latinos, even in the otherwise disappointing 2018 midterm elections

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #977 on: July 28, 2020, 05:15:36 AM »
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The theory is that if Trump is defeated, Democrats led by an aging and diminished Biden will pursue an unpopular left-wing political agenda and inherit the pandemic, economic downturn, and civil unrest. ......
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One fear Republicans had of Trump’s 2016 candidacy was that he would reduce the party’s share of the Hispanic vote to something approximating its frequently single-digit percentage of the black vote. While Trump receives poor marks in most polls for his handling of race relations, that hasn’t happened. Trump slightly improved on Mitt Romney’s 2012 performance with minority voters, and Republican candidates continued to win between a quarter and a third of Latinos, even in the otherwise disappointing 2018 midterm elections

Paul, ironically, you are quoting a political actor, a right wing extremist propagandist
much more influential and helpful to Trump party than Royell could ever dream of being.:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/a-few-gop-dissidents-ready-to-let-biden-win-and-look-ahead-to-2024

The clue for me was this line, in Antle III's piece you quoted....

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...The theory is that if Trump is defeated, Democrats led by an aging and diminished Biden will pursue an unpopular left-wing political agenda and inherit the pandemic, economic downturn, and civil unrest...

"Unpopular" to who, Paul, in a country in which just three men own more than at least 165 million Americans combined, own.... and it is only getting worse! This is a cesspool and the author of the piece you've quoted is akin to a used car salesman, advising readers of how reasonable much of Trump's support actually is, when in fact, they are the cancer, not the cure, the power hungry, ethics free facilitators and apologists for the Trump party senators who voted to keep Trump in office, and instead of removing him, pronounced an otherwise avoidable death sentence on several hundred thousand innocent Americans and on the rule of law and the U.S. Constitution they all swore a solemn oath to protect and defend, but instead abandoned the oath to protect and defend Trump!

Antle III has since moved on to the equally right wing extremist propaganda outlet, Washington Examiner, where I found the piece you've quoted....

Tucker Carlson founded daily caller and hired Texas racist Chuck Ross, who has become Trump_Hannity's top three "mouth piece".:

emptywheel is Marcy Wheeler -

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https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/07/27/how-chuck-ross-helped-make-roger-stone-a-felon/
HOW CHUCK ROSS HELPED MAKE ROGER STONE A FELON
July 27, 2020 - by emptywheel
Last night, Chuck Ross all but admitted he doesn’t know what he’s talking about with respect to to the Roger Stone case.

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Kevin McCarthy let it slip that the endless Benghazi hearings Hillary Clinton fully responded to cost her ten points in polling, Trump's charity is closed and he and his children sanctioned in the State of NY, and yet a third investigation of Hillary's emails conducted by the Trump State Dept. found nothing actionable!

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https://dailycaller.com/2015/04/23/clintons-cant-fall-back-on-vast-right-wing-conspiracy/
OPINION
Clintons Can’t Fall Back On ‘Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy’
W. JAMES ANTLE III
MANAGING EDITOR
April 23, 2015


.....But the full-time Clinton apologists are going to start sounding like Baghdad Bob denying the advancement of American forces in Iraq if they insist this is all old news.

The secrecy surrounding Hillary Clinton’s emails combined with shady foundation money is a legitimate story. The desire to report it may be vast, but it is neither right-wing nor a conspiracy.

W. James Antle III is managing editor of The Daily Caller and author of the book Devouring Freedom: Can Big Government Ever Be Stopped? Follow him on Twitter.

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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #978 on: July 28, 2020, 05:21:20 AM »
Benedict Donald is whining again on Twitter tonight because everybody hates him. Does this sound like a guy who is "winning"? If he thinks this is bad, wait until November 3rd when he is defeated in a massive landslide. After his temper tantrum #TrumpleThinSkin, #ThePresidentIsACrybaby, #TrumpGriftsYouDie are top trending right now. Americans are counting down the days to vote this scumbag out of office.     

@realDonaldTrump: So disgusting to watch Twitter’s so-called “Trending”, where sooo many trends are about me, and never a good one. They look for anything they can find, make it as bad as possible, and blow it up, trying to make it trend. Really ridiculous, illegal, and, of course, very unfair!




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As our nation suffers and people are sick and dying, Trump is using the office to grift the American public for his own financial benefit.


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #979 on: July 28, 2020, 05:34:55 AM »
Lying Trump

Trump is the promise everything, deliver nothing President. He also thinks it's "really ridiculous, illegal, and, of course, very unfair!" that we can make #LyingTrump trend #1

#EndTheNightmare