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« Reply #5940 on: September 21, 2022, 05:18:24 PM »
Watch live: New York Attorney General to reportedly announce law enforcement action related to Trump

New York Attorney General Letitia James is making what her office has described as a "major announcement" on Wednesday. According to Daily Beast reporter Jose Pagliery, James "is about to announce law enforcement action related to former President Donald Trump."

The announcement is scheduled to begin at 11:30 a.m. ET.

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« Reply #5941 on: September 21, 2022, 09:55:31 PM »
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Statement from Manhattan D.A. Alvin Bragg:



https://twitter.com/ManhattanDA/status/1572637408944091136

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« Reply #5942 on: September 21, 2022, 10:51:29 PM »
Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney

NEWS: The NY AG is suing Trump and two of his kids, alleging a massive campaign of fraudulent business practices by the Trump Org.

She's also urging federal prosceutors and the IRS to pursue criminal probes.

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The wide-ranging lawsuit alleges decades of deception and relies on a statute for repeat violations of law. The suit stems from a 3.5 year investigation that began with Michael Cohen's tesimony to Congress alleging Trump inflated value of assets to win favorable financial deals.

JAMES: “The complaint demonstrates that Donald Trump falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars to unjustly enrich himself and to cheat the system, thereby cheating all of us."

More, w @joshgerstein @erinmdurkin, who are live from NYC)

James' suit, if successful, would likely spell the end of Trump's business empire:

JAMES says her investigators "uncovered more than 200 examples of false and misleading asset valuations that were used on his statements."

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-company-and-family-members-sued-by-ny-ag-over-alleged-fraud-scheme-00058011

For example Trump treated cash held by Vornado (in which he had a limited but not controlling partnership) as his own to inflate his financial statements, James alleges.  https://politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-company-and-family-members-sued-by-ny-ag-over-alleged-fraud-scheme-00058011




Among the many examples in the lawsuit, James says Trump inflated his networth as part of his failed effort to purchse the Buffalo Bills. https://politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-company-and-family-members-sued-by-ny-ag-over-alleged-fraud-scheme-00058011




MORE: The lawsuit characterizes Don Jr., Eric and Ivanka's participation in the "ongoing scheme" as a required element to make it all work. https://politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-company-and-family-members-sued-by-ny-ag-over-alleged-fraud-scheme-00058011




Tish James says Trump tax records seized by the FBI from Mar-a-Lago may have been concealed from her investigators. https://politico.com/news/2022/09/21/trump-company-and-family-members-sued-by-ny-ag-over-alleged-fraud-scheme-00058011



https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1572627836833349632

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« Reply #5943 on: September 22, 2022, 03:48:04 AM »
'They’re screwed': Legal experts erupt after NY AG hits Trump and his family with massive fraud lawsuit



The New York attorney general on Wednesday accused Donald Trump and his family members of lying to lenders and insurers about assets under the real estate holdings of the Trump Organization.

Letitia James said that with the help of his children and others at the Trump organization, the former president gave fraudulent statements of his net worth "to obtain and satisfy loans, get insurance benefits, and pay lower taxes."

"Claiming money you do not have does not amount to the Art of the Deal, it's the Art of the Steal," James said at one point.

"That's gonna hurt, Donny," snarked legal analyst Marcy Wheeler. "I really can't understand how this fella was such an easy mark for Vladimir Putin."

Harry Litman, a former U.S. attorney and deputy assistant attorney general, agreed, noting " Trumpland is no doubt spittin' mad!"

He also said that Trump has tried to settle with New York, but the attorney general rebuffed him. "She really holds all the cards at this point. Trumps can't go to trial. They will need to appeal to her sense of tempered justice."

"We have to assume that the odds of Trump's going to jail, as satisfying as it would be to many Americans, are far smaller than the odds of a criminal conviction. What that means is this potentially ruinous civil action—coupled with criminal referral to the feds—counts as a killer blow," he also said.

"The New York AG has a lot of leverage in this lawsuit because Trump (and his son Eric) took the Fifth hundreds of times," said former U.S. Attorney Renato Mariotti. "That was smart to do, but it means they’re screwed in this civil case. A jury would likely be instructed to presume their answers would have hurt Trump."

Main Street Law's Tristan Snell noted, "Just the very fact that Trump *could* be barred from taking on any new loans might have the result of him not being able to get any new loans."

Already Trump was dealing with banks that were uncomfortable lending to him, forcing him to seek out financial support from Deutsche Bank.

James' office requested that the former president pay at least $250 million in penalties, and that his family be banned from running businesses in the state.

She also urged that Trump along with his children Donald Trump Jr, Eric Trump and Ivanka Trump be barred from purchasing property in the state for five years.

"The NY AG case could trigger a credit crisis for Trump, forcing him to sell properties to get cash, rather than relying on more debt," said Snell.

"Someone is setting an all-time record for one man's involvement in civil suits, criminal investigations and other pending legal matters," added former ethics czar Richard Painter, who served for George W. Bush's administration.

There were many examples of inflated assets from New York to Florida, but there was a question about other assets that may not have been included.

"But did you include the $450 million of classified information in the basement?" joked former FBI official Pete Strzok, having the last laugh.

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« Reply #5944 on: September 22, 2022, 10:11:48 AM »
'A sham built on lies': CNN's John King delivers blunt summary of NY AG's accusations against Trump

CNN host John King on Wednesday bluntly summed up New York Attorney General Letitia James' allegations leveled against former President Donald Trump's business practices.

Speaking after James announced her civil lawsuit against Trump that alleged decades' worth of tax fraud, King said that the lawsuit portrays Trump's business as a wholly illegitimate enterprise.

"Letitia James, outlining a nearly 300-page lawsuit filed against the former president of the United States, Donald Trump, and his children, alleging that the Trump Organization is a sham built on lies," he said. "Lies to banks, lies to insurance companies, lies to the state of New York about the valuation of Trump Organization properties."

Legal analyst Shan Wu later chimed in to note how meticulously the lawsuit had been put together over the span of several years, and he particularly zeroed in on the detail that Trump had tripled the reported size of his own Penthouse in Trump Tower in order to justify giving it a higher-than-merited valuation in financial documents.

"What really strikes me about this complaint is how well documented this is," he said. "There are facts you can't spin your way out of. Claiming that the penthouse, for example, is three times the square footage that it is, there's no way that you can spin your way out of that."

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« Reply #5945 on: September 22, 2022, 10:16:13 AM »
A possible criminal case against Trump 'looks like a good case so far': former White House lawyer



Former acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal addressed New York Attorney General Letitia James's recent announcement that she was filing civil charges won't land Donald Trump in prison. One of the things that James said while giving her briefing about the 200-page legal filing is that there are criminal actions that could be charged and that she was referring it to the Southern District of New York for their investigation.

Speaking to MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace, Katyal explained that there might be serious criminal probes forthcoming.

"On page two, the attorney general isolated a list of federal crimes she thought were potentially violated," he said. "And the thing this lawsuit did was collect all the reporting from our friends on this show, but then add to it all the evidence from the accountants, the evidence from the CFO and others, and it's tremendous. It's a case based on a huge amount of paperwork, which is unlike a lot of the other investigations that trump has faced, where his allies can just make up stories to protect him. This is based on cold facts with paperwork that is under the Trump Organization."

He referred back to the reports that Trump was flushing documents down the toilet at the White House and it clogged the pipes requiring plumbers. Katyal joked Trump probably wishes he could flush some financial statements down the toilet again.

"There's a big difference between what's going on in this attorney general suit and a criminal one," Katyal explained. "And one part of it is the burden of proof. Which, in a criminal case, is beyond a reasonable doubt. The very high standard that the prosecution has to show for all sorts of good reasons before you can put someone in jail. But there's a -- and the civil case is just a preponderance of the evidence, 51 percent or something like that. As I say, this New York one is a civil case, so, the standard of proof is lower, but the other piece about it is all these times that Donald Trump and his family took the fifth amendment. Hundreds of times in the new york attorney general's investigation. In a criminal case, because of our Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination, you can't have some sort of inference when someone takes the Fifth Amendment, but in a civil case, you can."

So, Katyal suggested, that a prosecutor might let the civil lawsuit unfold before taking the next steps.

"It seems like a good criminal case at this point, based on what I'm seeing in the complaint," he closed.

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Key detail in Trump's NY fraud case is 'particularly damning': legal expert



One of the key details alleged in New York Attorney General Letitia James' civil lawsuit against Donald Trump will make it incredibly difficult to defend against, a legal expert explained on CNN on Wednesday.

The attorney general's lawsuit "alleges that Donald Trump, with the help of his children Donald Trump, Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump, and senior executives at the Trump Organization, falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars to induce banks to lend money to the Trump Organization on more favorable terms than would otherwise have been available to the company, to satisfy continuing loan covenants, to induce insurers to provide insurance coverage for higher limits and at lower premiums, and to gain tax benefits, among other things."

One detail concerned Trump's personal apartment in Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue in New York City.

"Valuations of this property relied on objectively false numbers to calculate property values," the attorney general's office argued. "For example, Mr. Trump’s own triplex apartment in Trump Tower was valued as being 30,000 square feet when it was 10,996 square feet. As a result, in 2015 the apartment was valued at $327 million in total, or $29,738 per square foot. That price was absurd given the fact that at that point only one apartment in New York City had ever sold for even $100 million, at a price per square foot of less than $10,000, and that sale was in a newly built, ultra-tall tower. In 30 year-old Trump Tower, the record sale at that time was a mere $16.5 million at a price of less than $4,500 per square foot."

That detail was noted by Palm Beach County State Attorney Dave Aronberg, who was interviewed by CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

"Where does this fall in the scope of current and potentially looming lawsuits against the former president?" Blitzer asked.

"Well, Wolf, this is a big deal and although it's not a criminal case and people will focus on the Mar-a-Lago investigation, because that could lead to criminal charges, this could still lead to hefty fines and the possible disillusion of the Trump Organization," Aronberg replied. "Remember, the reason why Donald Trump's charity, the Trump Foundation, isn't around anymore is because the attorney general, Letitia James, is the one who sued to dissolve it."

"And this case does appear strong and pretty compelling and I think the extent and magnitude of these incorrect valuations couldn't be mistakes or rounding errors and one thing I think is particularly damning the allegation that he inflated the square footage of his own apartment from 11,000 feet to 30,000 feet," Aronberg noted.

"People lie, but tape measures don't," he concluded.

In 2017, Forbes magazine published a story by Chase Peterson-Withorn titled, "Donald Trump Has Been Lying About The Size Of His Penthouse." Peterson-Withorn went on to be subpoenaed by the Manhattan District Attorney.

Petson-Withorn noted the New York attorney general's lawsuit came, "seven years to the day after then-candidate Trump insisted to me that his penthouse was 33,000 square feet."

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« Reply #5947 on: September 22, 2022, 10:41:46 AM »
NY AG James @NewYorkStateAG

Today, I filed a lawsuit against Donald Trump for engaging in years of financial fraud to enrich himself, his family, and the Trump Organization.

There aren't two sets of laws for people in this nation: former presidents must be held to the same standards as everyday Americans.

Actions have consequences. We're seeking to:



➡️Make Trump pay $250 million.

➡️Ban the Trumps from running NY businesses for good.

➡️Ban Trump and Trump Org from buying commercial real estate in NY for 5 yrs.

➡️We're making a criminal referral to the U.S. Dept of Justice.


With the help of Donald Jr., Eric, Ivanka, and other defendants, Trump variously unlawfully inflated and deflated his net worth by billions to obtain and satisfy loans, get insurance benefits, and pay lower taxes.

In short, he lied to gain massive financial benefits for himself.

We found that Trump, his family, and the Trump Org used fraudulent and misleading asset valuations over 200 times in 10 years on his annual financial statements.

These statements were then used to obtain hundreds of millions of dollars in loans and insurance coverage.

Trump's crimes are not victimless.

When the well-connected and powerful break the law to get more money than they are entitled to, it reduces resources available to working people, small businesses, and taxpayers.

Our suit against Donald Trump and the Trump Org alleges a years-long financial fraud scheme.

Here’s how Trump generated false and misleading values on his annual financial statements, which were then used to pay lower taxes, guarantee loans, and get better insurance rates:



➡️Using objectively false numbers to calculate property values.

For example, Trump's apartment in Trump Tower is 10,996 square feet.

Yet, he said it was 30,000 square feet to value it at $327 million. A New York City apartment had never sold for that much.


➡️Ignoring legal restrictions on properties.

At Trump Park Ave, he valued 12 rent-stabilized units at market rate, inflating the value by 65 times.

At Mar-a-Lago, he ignored development restrictions to claim the property was worth $739 million.

Its value is about $75 million.


➡️Using schemes to increase the values of his golf clubs.

One such scheme was to add an inflated 15-30% Trump “brand premium,” but then claim that a brand premium was not included on his financial statements.


➡️Claiming he had cash available to him that he did not. 
 
For several years, Trump reported money in a partnership as liquid cash. In truth, he was a minority owner with no control of the money.

statements.


➡️Using fraudulent values to inflate net worth and gain benefits.

Trump’s annual financial statements included fraudulent values and were used for his own financial gain.

For example, he saved about $150 million by receiving favorable interest rates based on the statements.


Actions have consequences. Along with referring the criminal violations we uncovered to the U.S. Department of Justice, my office is seeking to:

- Ban Donald Trump, Donald Jr., Ivanka, and Eric from serving as an officer or director in any New York business.

- Ban Trump and the Trump Org from acquiring real estate in NY for at least 5 years.

- Force Trump to pay $250 million in profits made from this fraud.

- Install a monitor to oversee the Trump Org's financial dealings for at least 10 years.

- Bar Trump and the Trump Org from applying for loans from any financial institution chartered in NY for at least 5 years.

As Attorney General of New York, I made a promise to ensure the rule of law applies equally to everyone, even a former President of the United States.
 
No one is above the law.


https://twitter.com/NewYorkStateAG/status/1572626241756217347

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« Reply #5948 on: September 22, 2022, 02:59:30 PM »
Trump's family ran 'a fraud business with a sideline in real estate': Trump University investigator

On Wednesday's edition of MSNBC's "The ReidOut," Tristan Snell, the former New York official who helped investigate Trump University, broke down the severity of the civil allegations against the former president and members of his family announced by state Attorney General Letitia James.

The suit is the culmination of years of investigation into the former president's family business, which has been accused by former Trump insiders of keeping two sets of books and lying to banks, government agencies, and insurers about the value of various assets and properties.

"How significant is this, and does Trump have any defense here?" asked anchor Joy Reid. "Because this seems like he was doing this in the open for a really long time."

"It really looks like the Trump family was running a fraud business with a sideline in real estate, as opposed to the other way around," said Snell. "Like, it actually might have been, like, disparities in the valuations of their properties may have been their biggest source of paper, revenue, or assets. Like, this is insane. The disparities that we're talking about here are not just 10 percent. It's not rounding up. It's not saying, oh, you know, this is worth $147 million, we're going to say it's worth $150 million. No, no, no, no. This was 1000 percent bigger. 3,300 percent bigger. If any of us did this, we wouldn't just be liable for fraud, we'd be headed to jail. This would be the equivalent of an American saying that the appraisal says your house is worth $300,000, and then you turn around and say, oh, it's actually worth $30 million, it's actually worth $100 million, and thinking you're going to get away with that."

Even worse for Trump, argued Snell, he has effectively already admitted to the wrongdoing that James is alleging in the lawsuit.

"The question that you had about, like, you know, exactly what defense does he have here, the problem is that escape hatch is really gone because he had to plead the Fifth," said Snell. "The fact that he pled the Fifth to 440 different questions means that he doesn't really have any legs to stand on here, because anything that he might say in defense, the AG's office is going to be able to say, well, you already basically admitted to it because every time he said, 'I plead the Fifth,' substitute the words, 'I did it, it was me, I confess.'"

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Trump is 'bizarrely' making claims that may force Merrick Garland to indict him: Conservative analyst



On Thursday, writing for the National Review, conservative legal analyst Andrew McCarthy argued that last night's ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit nullifying Trump-appointed Judge Aileen Cannon's block on the DOJ's classified document investigation may have actually been a blessing in disguise for the former president — by relieving him of the need to make spurious legal claims that only put him in further jeopardy.

"It would be hard to fathom a more conclusive rejection of Judge Cannon’s ruling, notwithstanding that the government’s appeal challenged just a slice of it," wrote McCarthy. "The Eleventh Circuit panel observed that on the most critical question before the court — namely, whether the government had exhibited a 'callous disregard' for Trump’s constitutional rights — even Trump did not claim such a thing, and Judge Cannon concluded there was no such evidence. That alone would have been sufficient grounds to deny Trump’s special-master petition, let alone to carve the classified documents out of it."

The ruling only addresses the Justice Department's narrow request to allow them to review the documents marked classified; the special master, Senior Judge Raymond Dearie of Brooklyn, will continue to review the other thousands of documents for privileged material. Nonetheless, it is a legal defeat for Trump, who has demanded the classified information be returned to him and privately raged to his attorneys about the loss of "my" documents — even though he doesn't actually own them.

Even so, argued McCarthy, the appeals court decision is "probably doing Trump a favor" in the long term.

"As I detailed in a column on Wednesday, Judge Dearie seemed poised to order Trump’s counsel to provide evidence to back up the claim that the former president declassified the documents," wrote McCarthy. "With the Eleventh Circuit panel having now concluded both that Trump failed to proffer such evidence and that, in any event, Trump had no cognizable interest in retaining the classified intelligence, the point is moot. Since Dearie will not weigh privilege issues in connection with the classified documents, there is no need for Trump to try to persuade him that the documents are not classified."

"Bizarrely, Trump is apt to take that as encouragement to keep publicly claiming that he has declassified the documents," wrote McCarthy. "In the long term, those assertions are likely to be used as evidence against him. In the short term, they strengthen the hand of Justice Department prosecutors who are trying to persuade Attorney General Merrick Garland that Trump should be indicted."

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