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« Reply #5930 on: September 18, 2022, 11:28:24 PM »
'She’s a joke!' Lauren Boebert berated by local TV broadcaster after debate 'embarrassment'



Local Colorado broadcasters addressed local congresswoman Lauren Boebert, who is up for reelection, along with her colleagues. But those back home take issue with how bad she's making their state look.

Republican analyst Michael Fields attacked the moderator at the recent debate with Boebert and claimed that it didn't matter because she would be reelected anyway.

"Literally the only argument that Michael has is that we should have better moderators," Democratic strategist Andy Boian shot back. "She's a joke. This whole reality that she's mocking her congressional seat? She's a United States Congresswoman. And to act like that is an embarrassment to Colorado. It's an embarrassment to the third [congressional district]. It's an embarrassment to the country. She's a joke. Marjorie Taylor Greene is a joke. Both should be voted out. I don't think, unfortunately, Boebert is going to be voted out this time, but the only response Republicans have is we should look at the moderator? I mean, give me a break. You've got to look at the actual person in the job doing the work. He has no defense for Lauren Boebert. She is a clown."

Boebert appeared at a debate last Sunday, where she constantly spoke about Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Finally, her opponent, Adam Frisch had to cut in and remind her that his name was Adam, not Nancy. When she finally got around to attacking her opponent, she complained about the inner workings of the Aspen city government.

After the debate, Frisch told the Aspen Daily News on Sunday that Boebert is "fishing hard” and “inner workings of Aspen city government” aren't big on the district's concerns.

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« Reply #5931 on: September 19, 2022, 10:57:22 PM »
Trump's embrace of QAnon is 'the last act of a desperate man': ex-FBI official predicts 'cult' acts are coming



Over the weekend, Donald Trump went to Ohio to speak out for Republican Senate candidate J.D. Vance. What has left political analysts and elected officials spinning is that Trump has gone beyond flirting with the QAnon cult, and went what some people are describing as full "Q"

MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace began Monday's "Deadline White House" saying that Trump is fully “tangled up in the sheets" of the conspiracy group. For the past few weeks, Trump has been sharing several QAnon memes, including one popular meme saying "The Storm is Coming." In QAnon world, "the storm" is the conspiracy that Trump will be placed back into the presidency and prosecute his opponents.

At the rally on Saturday, Trump spoke over a soundtrack that played QAnon "flavored songs," described The Philadelphia Inquirer. It resulted in many members of the crowd raising a single finger into the air, an apparent salute for the QAnon slogan "where we go one, we go all."

Speaking to Wallace was formerly assistant director for the FBI's counterintelligence Frank Figliuzzi, who explained that Trump knows very well what QAnon is and he knows what he's doing by promoting it.

"It's like a moth to the flame, and the thing is, he knows that he's increasingly cornered," explained Figliuzzi. "He's in trouble on so many legal fronts, even criminal fronts now, that this is kind of the almost last act of a desperate man. And you can look at this and go, you know, Frank, be careful because that Youngstown, Ohio, rally was actually sparsely attended. The camera shots look great, people are stacked up behind him and right in front of him, but largely there was nobody in that arena. You can see this isn't that big of a threat."

The Trump rally was competing with the Ohio State-Toledo football game.

"I say, yeah, I got you on the attendance issue, but what is extremely dangerous based on past histories of cults is that as they come near the the end, as the leader is threatened, they get more and more dangerous and they do something cult experts call forcing the end," the counterterrorism expert explained. "Either the leader calls for the violence or the leaders is taken out, the members take a step up and force the ending, whatever that could be. That's what concerns me. We've learned from Jan. 6th that it only takes a small number of people to do that."

Wallace noted FBI Director Christopher Wray testifying to the House that there is a significant threat from anti-government domestic groups, which includes people from QAnon to militia groups.

Last week, Trump spoke with Hugh Hewitt and told law enforcement that they need to be on alert because his people are "going to be mad, mad, mad."

"It doesn't take a lot of cult members when incited by Donald Trump and warned publicly on the Hugh Hewitt radio show to carry out the violence he's warned about," Wallace explained, citing a terrorism expert who spoke out on CBS News.

Speaking to "Face the Nation," the University of Chicago Professor Robert Pape explained that looking at the percentage of people willing to stage a violent uprising is the equivalent of 13 million Americans. The percentage may be small, but the numbers are horrifying.

"The problem that we face is that over and over in [truths] by the former president, he is deliberately stoking not just the fires of anger getting him political support but the fires that are leading to that violent — the equivalent of 13 million," said Pape. "And that is really the heart of our problem that we face as a threat to democracy because if it's just a political threat, well, then we can have elections, But once it's not just denying an election but using violence as the response to an election denial, now we're in a new game."

Wallace explained that experts make it clear that this is all part of the plan and it has happened over and over in societies across the world and throughout history.

"It just hasn't happened here in a really long time, but the denial of the election result as a political maneuver comes first, and what it proceeds is violence," she said.

"So there's incremental steps that aren't even moving fast enough," said Figliuzzi. He has long noted that there is no law on the books that specifically deals with domestic terrorism.

"There's a penetration strategy, infiltration of state, local, county election officials, even add now that to over 100 -- something like 119 people running for office throughout the country that are election deniers," said Figliuzzi. "Get them in the House, the Senate, get them in key positions in key swing states as election officials and now you've got a recipe where we may not even be able to seek a legitimately elected next president of the United States because that's the degree of infiltration that's gone on here. And that's a recipe for violence, even as early as the midterms that could happen."

Going back to his training in international terrorism, he said that it's the combination of religion and cult status that leads people to martyr themselves.

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« Reply #5932 on: September 19, 2022, 11:37:51 PM »
Trump is 'afraid of being indicted and he has an army': Reporter debates when the next big Jan. 6 will happen

FBI Director Christopher Wray told Congress in 2020 that it was once white supremacists and racially motivated groups who were responsible for the majority of violence, but that has changed to be anti-government groups.

Last week, Collins tweeted a series of strange incidents involving QAnon-linked acts of violence. In one case, a QAnon Trump supporter in a rainbow wig stormed into a Dairy Queen with a loaded gun. A father shot and killed his wife and injured his daughter, after his other daughter said that he was spiraling out of control due to QAnon.

"Rebecca Lanis says her father had never been physically violent, but his behavior started spiraling about two years ago after former President Donald Trump lost the 2020 presidential election," the local WDBJ7 News report said, citing the man's daughter.

"People are wondering when it's going to happen, when the next big January 6th thing is going to happen," said Collins. "And we have this rolling wave of violence in this country by people who are obsessed with bringing back the previous time. That can mean whatever they want. It can mean the '90s. It can mean the '50s, something much further back than that. But they think they are losing control of the culture, of their own power in society, and Donald Trump is giving them a way to get it back."

Citing the man who killed his wife, Collins explained that the family said he already had some mental health issues, but after Trump, he became violent.

Trump "knows what this is," said Collins. "This is a guy who's losing control of the idea that he can be democratically elected again, but he still has an army, and he's afraid of being indicted. So put two and two together here."

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« Reply #5933 on: September 20, 2022, 09:07:01 AM »
'Whatever happened to Trump’s claim the FBI planted the documents?': asks ex-Democratic senator

As Donald Trump heads to court to meet his requested special master on Tuesday, he was being asked for anything proving that he declassified any of the stolen government documents.

The court filings never allege that Trump declassified any of the documents, but it's something that he'd been saying on his social media sites and in radio and television interviews. It had become such a part of the narrative, that Judge Aileen Cannon put the unsubstantiated information in her own ruling.

"The Court does not find it appropriate to accept the Government’s conclusions on these important and disputed issues without further review by a neutral third party in an expedited and orderly fashion," Cannon wrote last week in her filing.

It's setting Tuesday up for a doozy of a court battle, where Trump isn't expected to appear.

Now that the scandal has reached the six-week mark, former Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) is reminiscing about the early days of the social media rants, the rabid press releases and quick excuses from ill-informed Republican loyalists.

"Whatever happened to the defense the FBI came in and planted them?" McCaskill asked about the Trump excuses. The Fox networks spent almost a whole day suggesting the boxes could have been planted. Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) said that no one is certain that the FBI wouldn't "put things in the boxes to entrap him."

"What the FBI is probably doing is planting evidence," said Fox host Jesse Watters said in his Aug. 9 show. Two days later, Watters was saying, it wasn't so much planting evidence as Trump wanted to take home some reminders of his time in the Oval Office like a paperweight from North Korea, or a little bobblehead of the MBS.

Trump claimed by that point, that he didn't have any documents anymore. The National Archives asked for them back and he gave them back.

It was only one of the things that Trump said over the course of the week as he searched for something that would explain the reason he had classified documents from the government in his desk drawers and boxes in his closet.

The excuse then became "they're just news clippings" that some papers may have gotten mixed in with.

In one statement, Trump claimed that people bring their work home all the time. Trump had lost his job by the time he was bringing those documents back to Florida. That same statement also claimed that he'd declassified the documents, which he'd previously said the FBI planted.

After that, they alleged that the FBI was "raiding" Mar-a-Lago because they were part of some wild operation targeting Trump. His MAGA supporters proclaimed: "If they can do this to a former president, imagine what they can do to you."

Then the excuse became that it was President Baack Obama's fault because he stole 33,000 government documents for his presidential library. The National Archives came out with a statement explaining that they actually run the Obama archives of documents, as they do with all presidential libraries. None of those documents are classified.

An aide then said that because Trump thought he'd won the presidency and that he'd be able to stay in office that he never really packed anything. So, he simply threw some things in boxes with 40 boxes of paperwork and file folders saying "CLASSIFIED" or "TOP SECRET" in big red letters. It's hard to believe that Trump was in the White House residence bubble-wrapping things and shoving his clothes in a black trash bag.

The next excuse from Trump is that he's entitled to the documents because they were his.

“They're mine,” three of Trump's advisers told the New York Times that he said repeatedly.

The next excuse became that he needed them to write his book. Trump has already self-published his book, which are pages of photos with post-it notes he has written on and about the photos. The National Archives also disputed this claim because presidents have access to the archives for up to 12 years and Trump could have used that access any time to work on his book. He just never turned over the documents to begin with so they could be cataloged.

At some point in the process there was a comment that he would have given the documents back if they'd just asked. It wasn't long after Americans learned of the 18-month process that the Archives and the FBI went through trying to get them back by sending letters and talking to his aides. He was then subpoenaed, which went ignored and finally the search was executed.

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'Enough is enough': Legal expert explains how Judge Dearie bypassed the Trump judge’s poor rulings



National security lawyer Brad Moss said that up until this point, Donald Trump has lucked out of his hand-picked judge, Aileen Cannon, handing him wins in court.

Trump demanded a special master in the court, and even went so far as to ask for Judge Raymond Dearie. After the DOJ agreed to Dearie, Trump's legal team is refusing to cooperate ahead of the first meeting Tuesday afternoon.

It has been six weeks since the search warrant was executed at the former president's country club in Palm Beach, Florida.

"Part of the reason Judge Dearie is doing this is I'm sure he saw what order he was given from Judge Cannon. I'm sure he looked at the filing and said 'enough is enough, I'm not dancing around this,'" said Moss. "It's really simple. Either you've got the evidence or you don't."

He went on to say that he Trump will have to produce the affidavit that the documents were declassified to prove the documents could even be taken outside of the Oval Office, much less the White House.

It's the easiest way to prove that the documents aren't Trump's because there's no document proving it. The second battle that Trump's lawyers will have to fight to prove that Trump owned the documents, which will also be difficult since they were generated by the government for the government.

"You get what you pay for and you get what you can," said Moss. "And whatever competent qualified lawyer you'd expect to have in this situation when everyone else wants nothing to do with you."

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'He knew nothing about so many things': Trump White House staffers were 'startled' by his ignorance



While promoting their book "The Divider" on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on Tuesday morning, journalists Peter Baker and Susan Glasser revealed anecdotes about Donald Trump's absolute ignorance about world affairs and even geography when he was president that stunned aides.

Speaking with co-host Jonathan Lemire, the two authors were asked about Trump's issues dealing with former leaders and they revealed a story about the former president offering to give away the West Bank.

"There is so much about his meetings with Putin in Helsinki, his efforts to walk out of NATO," host Lemire began. "This headline, which took my breath away when I read it over the weekend, that he nearly gave away the West Bank -- tell us how that could have happened."

"We decided to do this book after he left office because there was more to learn," Baker admitted. "One was the great anecdote where apparently Trump calls up [former Treasury Secretary] Steve Mnuchin at the Davos conference when he's meeting with King Abdullah II of Jordan and put him on the phone, and said, 'Hey king, I've got a great deal for you, I'm going to give you the West Bank.' And anybody who understands Jordan where the Palestinian population is sort of a restive force in politics there and understands that was not anything King Abdullah wanted."

"He told an American friend, 'I nearly had a heart attack, I doubled over, I couldn't breathe,'" Baker continued. "It went to where Donald Trump's view of the world is very superficial and transactional -- and he is simply going to give the king something the king has no interest in having."

"It explains a lot about his foreign policy, which was very, very much built on the basis of someone who didn't spend a single day in office prior to becoming president and he had a lot to learn, " he elaborated. "He didn't know the difference between the Baltics and Balkans. One aide was saying he knew nothing about so many things, it was startling to them even after they spent time in his presence."

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« Reply #5936 on: September 21, 2022, 03:11:51 AM »
‘There will be violence’: John Dean predicts Trump will attempt ‘dictators’ play’ as the walls close in



Former Watergate figure John Dean warned there will be violence as Donald Trump finds himself in increasing legal peril.

Richard Nixon's former White House counsel, who was disbarred after his Watergate conviction, offered his analysis following Tuesday's hearing in a Brooklyn courtroom before Special Master Raymond Dearie.

"It seems Trump’s lawyers are trying to protect his lie that he declassified all the Mar A Largo documents," Dean wrote in a thread posted to Twitter. "GOP does not want him to declare until after 11/08 so he needs the lie. He feels (rightly) he won’t be indicted until after the midterms. After the midterms, he will declare!"

"As a POTUS candidate he is not only the center of attention but he can claim any indictment is a political act to keep him out of the Oval Office. Running for POTUS is his best defense from going to jail. Who knows, he might convince one or more jurors! If he wins…. No. He won’t," Dean predicted.

Dean went on to predict multiple indictments for the former president.

"Trump will be indicted in a RICO action in GA, and federally for Obstruction of Justice (at minimum) for his theft of classified information, plus Seditious Conspiracy and Conspiracy to Defraud (at minimum) for Jan 6th. In short, he should face three criminal cases before 2024," Dean wrote.

"He believes he can use the dictator's ploy of mounting riots if the government comes after him, and some of his followers will comply so there will be violence. But law enforcement, the National Guard and the US military will prevail. And Trump will earn added criminal charges," he further predicted. "Trump and GOP enablers are an evil that must be addressed for what it is doing to our nation. The way to deal with it is to stay informed for only fools want what Trump is offering."

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Biden's Approval Hits 11-Month High as Trump's Falls to One of His Lowest

President Joe Biden's approval rating is finally on an upswing, reaching an 11-month high just seven weeks before the midterm elections. At the same time, former President Donald Trump, who had held onto a favorable rating since leaving office, is seeing one of his lowest post-presidency marks.

An NBC poll released on Sunday found that 45 percent of registered voters approved of Biden's overall job—a figure up 3 points from last month and the highest since last October. The margin of error for the 1,000 registered voters who were surveyed is 3.1 percent. The NBC News survey was conducted on September 9 to September 13.

The economy had been recurrently ranked as the key voting issue for the majority of Americans in various polls this year, but Sunday's survey found that the top issue to be "threats to democracy," with 20 percent of voters picking it as their number one issue. Comparably, 18 percent of voters picked the cost of living, 16 percent chose jobs and the economy, and another 12 percent said immigration and border security.

While Biden's rating has gone up, Trump's has fallen to one of his lowest since he left the White House last year.

According to the poll, 54 percent of voters have a negative view of Trump and 34 percent of voters have a positive view. The rating is a slight tick down from last month when 36 percent of voters had a positive view of him. Sunday's approval is also the ex-president's lowest since last April, when 55 percent of voters had a negative view and 32 percent had a positive view.

Trump has been the subject of several investigations that have ramped up in recent months, including a federal probe investigating whether he mishandled presidential records after leaving office. The majority of voters, 56 percent, say they want the various probes to continue, while 41 percent say they should stop.

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Trump to Face Sexual Battery Suit Under New ‘Survivors’ Law

Donald Trump has faced a defamation suit from journalist E. Jean Carroll over her allegations that Trump raped her. Now she’s escalating the suit.



E. Jean Carroll, the journalist who claims she was raped by Donald Trump decades ago in a New York department store, is planning to sue him for sexual battery under the state’s new “survivors” law later this year—and her attorneys now want to question Trump under oath.

In an August letter to a New York federal judge that was just made public Tuesday, Carroll’s lawyer notified the court that severe legal action was on the horizon.

The issue was brought up in court filings related to Carroll’s current lawsuit against the former president. She sued Trump while he was still at the White House, claiming she was defamed when Trump said the journalist’s revelations in her memoir were lies, adding a piggish line about how “she's not my type.”

Although the underlying accusations deal with sexual assault claims against the real estate billionaire, the nature of the legal dispute wasn't primed to go after Trump for the actual alleged assault.

That’s changed.

Roberta A. Kaplan, the journalist’s lawyer, explained in her letter to the judge that Carroll is now preparing to file a separate lawsuit under New York’s Adult Survivors Act “on the earliest possible date,” which is Nov. 24.

Kaplan also explained that Trump—as he has done in nearly every court case of late—is refusing to turn over court-mandated evidence.

Trump “remains unwilling to produce any documents in discovery,” not “a single document,” Kaplan wrote.

That's why, she said, Trump should be dragged into a room for a deposition that will question him under oath—an embarrassing exercise that could elicit damning information from the former president. And given that it's a civil case, any question Trump refuses to answer can be interpreted in the worst light possible—even as an admission.

Kaplan’s letter was written to another Kaplan: U.S. District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan, who is overseeing the defamation case and had previously instructed both parties to share information with each other. (There is no known relation between the two.)

In a pithy response on Aug. 11, Trump lawyer Alina Habba accused Carroll’s lawyer of misleading the judge in the way she “repeatedly mischaracterizes the discovery efforts that have been undertaken by the parties to date.”

“Indeed, the letter contains numerous misstatements which are seemingly intended to make it appear as if [Trump] is not complying with his discovery obligations,” Habba wrote. “This is simply not the case.”

However, Habba’s letter revealed that—once again—Trump is hiding behind the presidential seal and waiving around expired credentials to keep evidence out of the public’s hands. Habba defended Trump’s use of “executive privilege” to prevent Carroll from obtaining some documents related to the way he verbally attacked her character while he was at the White House.

Carroll’s next lawsuit could have a dramatically different—and more serious—result than the current defamation case.

In the current legal fight, Trump managed to employ the Department of Justice to defend him, leaving taxpayers on the hook for what was clearly a personal battle. However, any lawsuit under New York’s rape survivor law would target him directly while he’s no longer in office.

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NY AG Letitia James files massive fraud lawsuit against Trump, his business, and his 3 eldest children

- New York Attorney General Letitia James' office sued Trump, his children, and his business.

- "Trump falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars to further enrich himself and cheat the system," James' office said.

- James is seeking to permanently bar the Trumps from conducting business in New York and pursuing $250 million in penalties.




New York's attorney general filed a sweeping civil suit Wednesday against former President Donald Trump, his business, and his three eldest children.

"Trump falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars to further enrich himself and cheat the system," NY AG Letitia James' office said.

James is seeking to permanently bar the Trumps from conducting business in New York and pursuing $250 million in penalties.

The suit is the culmination of an aggressive, three-year probe by James, who in 2018 campaigned in part on the promise to investigate — and sue —Trump and his New York-incorporated real estate and golf resort empire.

In April, state Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron held Trump in contempt of court and imposed a daily fine eventually totaling $110,000. Trump, the judge found, had failed to fully comply with court orders that he turn over his personal business documents.

Engoron also sided with James in requiring Trump and his two eldest children to comply with her subpoena for their testimony. Trump pleaded the Fifth some 400 times when he was deposed by James and lawyers for her office last month.

Many of the lawsuit's fraud allegations center on 10 years of Trump's statements of financial condition. These are annual listings of the value of Trump's individual sky scrapers, hotels, golf resorts, branding deals and the like; Trump used these allegedly inflated valuations to impress banks and other interests.

The truth of these statements — which were signed either by Trump, or, after 2017, by Eric Trump — has been publicly questioned since the former president's fixer-turned-critic Michael Cohen turned over the statements for 2011 through 2013 as part of his testimony before Congress in 2019.

James has alleged that Cohen's testimony about the statements was the impetus for her probe. Even Trump's now-former accounting firm, Mazars USA, which had prepared the statements for decades, said in February the documents "should no longer be relied upon."

Mazars walked away from the statements after James' office found that they repeatedly "misstated objective facts."

Those facts included the size of his Trump Tower penthouse, which Trump allegedly claimed was three times the actual square footage.

Trump also allegedly overstated his liquidity — the amount of cash on hand — and artificially inflated some of his valuations by an undisclosed flat percentage for "brand" value, despite expressly saying in the statements that this brand value had not been factored in.   

Trump, for his part, has insisted that he has not committed financial wrongdoing and has repeatedly accused the attorney general's office of conducting a politically motivated "witch hunt."

https://www.businessinsider.com/ny-ag-letitia-james-civil-lawsuit-trump-family-business-2022-4

 

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