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Trump attorneys already looking to make Meadows the fall guy for Jan. 6: 'Mark is in a lot of trouble'



Donald Trump has already started to distance himself from the allies who helped his effort to overturn the 2020 election results, and his inner circle has identified Mark Meadows as the likely fall guy.

The former president's legal team is already planning strategies around criminal charges against Meadows, the former White House chief of staff, and Trump has begun to distance himself from him and other allies involved in election challenges and the Jan. 6 insurrection, reported Rolling Stone.

“Everyone is strategizing around the likelihood that Mark is in a lot of trouble,” said one lawyer close to Trump. “Everyone who knows what they’re doing, anyway.”

The House select committee has started looking into Meadows' financial dealings for evidence of legally dubious payments with other Trump advisers seeking to overturn Joe Biden's election win, according to two sources familiar with the matter, and the former president's legal advisers seem to expect they'll find it.

“Mark is gonna get pulverized…and it’s really sad,” said one of Trump’s current legal advisers. “Based on talking to [Meadows in the past, it felt like] he doesn’t actually believe any of this [election-theft] stuff, or at least not most of it. He was obviously just trying to perform for Trump, and now he’s maybe screwed himself completely.”

Eight sources still in Trump's political orbit or legal defense told Rolling Stone that Meadows was widely loathed by other Trump veterans, who see him as two-faced and blame him failing to control the White House coronavirus outbreak, and the former president's attorneys have gamed out how to protect him from the possibility of criminal charges against Meadows.

“I do think criminal prosecutions are possible,” said former Trump lawyer Ty Cobb. “Possible for Trump and Meadows, certainly, and for the others, including lawyers, who engaged fraudulently in formal proceedings or investigations.”

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5554 on: July 15, 2022, 12:40:15 AM »
Steve Bannon LEAKED AUDIO reveals evidence of pre-planned Trump Coup Plot

Per Mother Jones, "On the evening of October 31, 2020, Steve Bannon told a group of associates that President Donald Trump had a plan to declare victory on election night—even if he was losing." Jessica Denson, the 2016 Trump campaign staffer who defeated Trump in court, weighs in!

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« Reply #5555 on: July 15, 2022, 11:47:05 AM »
Ivana Trump died yesterday.

Donald Trump sent out a message to his followers so he could fundraise off her death. What an evil soulless monster. 

Check out the "donate" button at the bottom.   




Donald Trump fundraises off of ex-wife's death

Shortly after the death of former President Donald Trump's first wife Ivana was confirmed by the Trump family on Thursday afternoon, the ex-commander in chief asked his supporters for donations to his Save America Political Action Committee.

"I am very saddened to inform all of those that loved her, of which there are many, that Ivana Trump has passed away at her home in New York City. She was a wonderful, beautiful, and amazing woman, who led a great and inspirational life. Her pride and joy were her three children, Donald Jr., Ivanka, and Eric. She was so proud of them, as we were all so proud of her. Rest In Peace, Ivana!" Trump wrote on his Truth Social app.

That statement was subsequently copied and posted into an email that had a "DONATE TO SAVE AMERICA" link attached.

A screenshot of the solicitation was first posted to Twitter by MSNBC anchor Andrea Mitchell.

"Fundraising off this," she said.

Republicans against Trumpism also shared Trump's ill-timed cash grab.

"Donald Trump is fundraising off his ex-wife's death," the Trump tracking account tweeted. "There is no bottom."

The Jewish Ginger Resister, meanwhile, noted that "I want so bad to be joking" and "there is no bottom to the grifters."

https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1547681301649432577

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« Reply #5556 on: July 15, 2022, 01:52:15 PM »
Each day Republicans are ripping away the freedoms of Americans. Women no longer have the right to control their own body. If they are raped, radical Republicans will force her to carry the rapists' baby. If the woman has a medical emergency to her pregnancy, radical Republicans says she has to die, because she can't terminate the pregnancy to save her own life under their "no exception" abortion law. These are the barbaric and extreme laws Republicans are enforcing which will kill many women. This is something you would see in a third world country, not America.

Republicans in red states that banned abortion, are now enforcing laws prohibiting pregnant women from travelling out of state to seek an abortion if their life is on the line or if they were raped. Do you know what that means? Republicans are holding women hostage in their state controlling women's bodies. This is Republican fascism.   

Women no longer have the freedom to go where they want to go. Republicans are controlling women under their insane laws. Imagine what these lunatics will do if they have full control of Congress. Trump supporters have gone too far and we are losing our freedoms.   

Republicans block bill to protect women who travel to other states for abortions
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-block-bill-protecting-women-travel-states-abortion-rcna38301

Ohio Republicans’ attempted erasure of a 10-year-old rape victim is incredibly sick and disturbed



The first and most important thing to recognize right now is that a heinous, violent crime was committed on a 10-year-old Ohio child, and thankfully justice has now found the alleged perpetrator.

A Columbus man was indicted Wednesday in a case that made national and international headlines about a 10-year-old girl who had to travel to Indiana for an abortion after Ohio’s abortion ban went into effect following the U.S. Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade.

The story is horrifying and tragic. She has experienced enormous trauma. My heart breaks for her, and I’m very grateful to all the hard-working professionals out there providing her and her family assistance in what must be a truly awful time.

Republican Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine and his spokesman responded to the story by ignoring questions about whether children should be forced to have their rapists’ babies. Then DeWine allies contacted members of the press, asking how sure they were that the case of the pregnant 10-year-old even happened.

The Washington Post, the conservative Daily Caller and other media outlets published stories saying that the case was unverified. The Wall Street Journal Editorial page suggested the story was a “fanciful tale.” The National Review’s Michael Brendan Dougherty referred to the case as “a fictive abortion and a fictive rape.”

Republican Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost went on Fox News Monday to raise further doubts. He said he works closely with law enforcement authorities and he’d gotten “not a whisper” about the case. “What I’m saying to you is there is not a damn scintilla of evidence,” he doubled-down to the Columbus Dispatch next on Tuesday.

Hamilton County Republican Party Chair Alex Triantafilou on Twitter called the case, “A garbage lie that a simple google search confirms is debunked.”

State Rep. Brian Stewart tweeted the Washington Post story saying he “wouldn’t trust an abortionist to tell me whether the sky is blue.”

Ohio U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan tweeted, “Another lie. Anyone surprised?”

None of them had the patience to verify for themselves with certainty the truth of the matter before going public on a massive, self-serving scale. Jordan deleted his tweet.

Columbus police said in court they were referred the case by Franklin County Children Services on June 22. On Monday, July 11, Fox News host Jesse Waters and Ohio AG Dave Yost were on national television questioning whether this case was real.

The propaganda erasing this 10-year-old’s existence was so swift it spread out over right-wing social media like a blanket. Those advocating the truth of her story — privately already confirmed for some of us, and crushing to hear about — were subjected to wild-eyed mockery and ridicule.

It’s incredibly disturbing that the default position of so many sick and twisted people — including Ohio’s most prominent Republican elected officials — is to very vocally and very publicly question whether the rape and impregnation of a 10-year-old child ever happened.

This case was never implausible. In 2020, the most recent year for which statistics are available, 52 girls aged 14 and younger had abortions in Ohio, according to the state department of health. A review of just the city of Columbus’ police log since March 15 uncovered 59 reports of sexual assaults of girls 15 and younger that, based on the information available, could have resulted in pregnancy. This included at least one case of a 10-year-old.

The wheels and integrity of local journalism spun and uncovered the truth, with the Columbus Dispatch breaking the news of confirmation of the case.

But after the confirmation broke Wednesday, DeWine’s spokesman, Dan Tierney, again refused to comment on whether child rape victims should be forced to carry their pregnancies to term.

Ten-year-olds who become pregnant are by definition rape victims. But Ohio’s abortion law signed by DeWine doesn’t make exceptions for rape and incest.

Yost’s office didn’t respond Wednesday when asked whether he believes child rape victims should be forced to carry pregnancies, nor whether it was important to believe stories about sexual violence. Instead he put out a statement applauding the arrest.

Yost offered no correction, no apology, and showed no contrition for going on national television to try to erase the lived experience of a child rape victim.

“Apologize for what? Questioning a newspaper story?” Ohio’s top law enforcement officer Dave Yost said about a case in his own county.

DeWine, Yost, and other Ohio Republicans hurt a traumatized child once by forcing her to flee the state in order to receive health care; then they hurt her again by peddling propaganda erasing her; now they’re hurting her a third time by refusing to acknowledge and apologize for their actions.

These powerful Ohio Republican politicians have thoroughly and completely shed themselves of any sense of shame or conscience.

They’re disgusting and disgraceful; callous, careless and cruel.

This is a matter of basic human decency, good faith and sensitivity on the most fundamental level of society.

If they are willing to try to erase the traumatic story of a 10-year-old rape victim, whose pain and suffering will they not try to ignore and erase?

They behave on a base level so repugnant and removed from the general good-heartedness of most Ohioans it’s almost unfathomable.

I honestly don’t know how they sleep at night, or look at themselves in the mirror in the morning.

https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/07/13/ohio-republicans-attempted-erasure-of-a-10-year-old-rape-victim-is-incredibly-sick-and-disturbed/

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‘He’s in big trouble’: Morning Joe busts Trump’s ‘cynical’ gambit to avoid prosecution



MSNBC's Joe Scarborough busted Donald Trump's "cynical" gambit to announce a run for president to avoid prosecution for his role in the Jan. 6 insurrection.

The House select committee has laid out the evidence against the former president that could result in multiple criminal charges, and he's facing possible prosecution in Georgia and New York as he weighs a third campaign for the White House, but the "Morning Joe" host said Trump was making a calculation to stay ahead of investigators.

"He knows he is not going to win, he knows he's not -- he can't -- no chance of winning," Scarborough said. "He knew he had a chance of winning in 2016, he knows he is not going to win in 2024. He knows it. He also knows that you have an attorney general who, many on the right and the left believe, is afraid of his own shadow. So if Merrick Garland's afraid to bring charges when Donald Trump is not running, Donald Trump has cynically concluded that Merrick Garland is too weak to bring charges against a man who very clearly broke the law on Jan. 6."

Trump clearly directed the violent insurrection in a final push to remain in power, according to evidence shown by the House select committee, after his legal challenges failed and he was unable to persuade various officials to help him overturn his loss, and Scarborough said he should pay a price for those crimes.

"We've been dancing around this thing about conspiracy to commit sedition," Scarborough said. "Jan. 6 was about treason, treason against the United States, against the United States of America. He tried to overthrow the United States government and put himself, through the use of fascist force, put himself in the place of the duly elected president of the United States, and so Donald Trump knows he's in big trouble."

"He's just hoping that if he announces he is running for president, that Republicans will be too stupid and too distracted to actually understand the need to have justice for somebody who committed treason against the United States."

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‘Beyond outrageous’: Morning Joe unloads on Secret Service coverup

MSNBC's Joe Scarborough ripped the U.S. Secret Service for apparently conspiring to help cover up actions to help Donald Trump carry out the Jan. 6 insurrection.

The agency erased text messages from Jan. 5 and 6, 2021, after the Department of Homeland Security's internal watchdog asked for records of electronic communications related to the insurrection, according to a letter sent to Congress, and the "Morning Joe" host called out pro-Trump agent Tony Ortano and other loyalists to the former president within the Secret Service.

"Maybe he's close enough to Donald Trump that he wants to commit perjury and go to jail, and hope that his buddy will go to jail and meet him there," Scarborough said. "This is beyond outrageous, what is going on with the Secret Service. It's outrageous, the lies that they're telling behind the scenes. It's outrageous, again, that the inspector general says, 'I asked for these texts on Jan. 5 and Jan. 6,' and they deleted them after the request."

"You know, you know that people are going to want the text messages and the text exchanges for those two days, two of the most significant days," Scarborough added. "You know, this is like, actually, if there were text messages and emails, this would be like FDR's administration going out to the guy that was running the radio tower, saying, 'Please, if you could, preserve all of your electronic emails and correspondence from, you know, Dec. 6 and Dec. 7, 1941, so we can see what happened,' then they destroy them. That's exactly what happened here."

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Exclusive: Fulton County DA sends 'target' letters to Trump allies in Georgia investigation

ATLANTA — In the latest sign that she is moving rapidly in her investigation into Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election, Fulton County, Ga., District Attorney Fani Willis has sent so-called target letters to prominent Georgia Republicans informing them they could be indicted for their role in a scheme to appoint alternate electors pledged to the former president despite Joe Biden’s victory in the state, according to legal sources familiar with the matter.

The move by Willis, a Democrat, could have major political implications in a crucial battleground state with high-profile races for governor and the U.S. Senate this fall. Among the recipients of the target letters, the sources said, are GOP state Sen. Burt Jones, Gov. Brian Kemp’s running mate for lieutenant governor; David Shafer, the chairman of the Georgia Republican Party; and state Sen. Brandon Beach.

Jones and Shafer were among those who participated in a closed-door meeting at the state Capitol on Dec. 14, 2020, in which 16 Georgia Republicans selected themselves as the electors for the state, although they had no legal basis for doing so. Shafer, according to a source who was present, presided over the meeting, conducting it as though it were an official proceeding, in which those present voted themselves as the bona fide electors in Georgia — and then signed their names to a declaration to that effect that was sent to the National Archives.

The offices or spokespersons for Jones, Shafer and Beach did not respond to requests for comment. Willis, in an interview, declined any comment on the target letters. But she confirmed she is considering another potentially controversial move: requesting that Trump himself testify under oath to the special grand jury investigating his conduct.

“Yes,” said Willis when asked if there was any chance Trump will be called to testify. “I think it's something that we’re still weighing and evaluating.” She also said she had spoken to Dwight Thomas, a veteran local defense lawyer who has been retained to represent Trump, as recently as Thursday. She declined to say what they talked about. Thomas did not respond to requests for comment.

Willis also brushed aside the possibility that she will be sharply criticized by state Republicans, and perhaps others, for using her powerful prosecutorial position to target political adversaries. “I don’t make decisions based on what people say about me,” she said.

Charlie Bailey is the Democratic candidate for lieutenant governor and a close ally of Willis (she recently helped sponsor a fundraiser for him). He has made Jones’s role in the so-called fake elector scheme a major issue in his campaign. “To come in and say: 'No, the voters don’t matter, and I get to decide, the party gets to decide who wins this election,' that is authoritarian,” Bailey said in an interview on the Yahoo News "Skullduggery" podcast this week. “It’s the most un-American thing you can do.”

The plan by the Trump campaign to designate alternative electors was not limited to Georgia. Pro-Trump Republicans in Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, New Mexico and Michigan took similar steps — bolstered by constitutional lawyer John Eastman’s view that alternate electors could provide a basis for then-Vice President Mike Pence to reject the certification of Biden’s victory on Jan. 6, 2021.

But details about the events in Georgia have attracted particular scrutiny, both by Willis’s grand jury and by the U.S. Department of Justice, whose prosecutors in Washington also recently subpoenaed the GOP electors from the state.

Among those details was an email from Robert Sinners, who served as the Trump campaign’s Election Day coordinator in Georgia, which was sent to the would-be electors on the day before the Dec. 14 meeting. In the email, Sinners urged them to act with “complete secrecy” and to refuse to speak to any members of the news media about what they were doing. If asked, they were to say they were attending a meeting with Jones and Beach, the two state senators.

“I must ask for your complete discretion in this process,” Sinners wrote at the time, according to the Washington Post, which first reported on the email. “Your duties are imperative to ensure the end result — a win in Georgia for President Trump — but will be hampered unless we have complete secrecy and discretion.”

He also instructed the electors to tell security guards at the Capitol that they had an appointment with one of two state senators. “Please, at no point should you mention anything to do with Presidential Electors or speak to the media,” Sinners wrote in bold.

George Chidi, an Atlanta-based independent journalist and political activist, told Yahoo News that he testified Wednesday for about an hour in front of the special grand jury, and was closely questioned by prosecutors about how he was tipped off about the secret meeting of electors at the Capitol that day. He said he attempted to report on it until he was evicted from the room. “They wanted to know how I knew to barge into that meeting,” he told Yahoo News.

Chidi said he was informed that the room had been reserved by somebody in the office of Speaker of the House David Ralston. (Ralston testified before the grand jury on Thursday, but declined comment, citing respect for “the privacy of grand jury proceedings,” according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.)

When he tracked down the room and entered, Chidi testified, he was told the assembled group was holding “an education meeting.” “A guy got up and walked me out the door,” he testified, adding that “they posted a guy out front” to keep others out. (An Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporter, Greg Bluestein, has written that he, too, was kept from the room.)

Prosecutors appear to be focusing on the secrecy of the meeting as evidence of consciousness of guilt on the part of the Trump electors. But defense lawyers will argue that Sinners's email and Chidi’s eviction from the room notwithstanding, the alternative electors did not attempt to keep the secret after their business was over — and that they had a valid reason to act as they did: to preserve the Trump campaign’s legal rights in the event that one of its legal challenges to Biden’s victory in Georgia prevailed. (The theory was that the state Legislature would not have time to formally name new electors before the Jan. 6 deadline, when Congress was due to certify the Electoral College vote.)

Shafer gave a number of interviews that day saying as much, although it's not clear whether he did so because he had learned that Chidi and Bluestein had discovered the meeting.

It is also not clear how the target letters to Jones and Shafer fit into Willis’s overall strategy in the investigation. She could indict the fake electors on a so-called false writing charge — alleging that they filed a fraudulent document naming themselves electors for the state.

Alternatively, or in addition, she could use a false writing charge as a “predicate act” as part of a much broader conspiracy indictment encompassing all the Trump campaign’s efforts to overturn the election results in the state, including Trump’s Jan. 2, 2021, phone call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger urging him to “find” enough votes to flip the electoral result there.

https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-fulton-county-da-sends-target-letters-to-trump-allies-in-georgia-investigation-152517469.html