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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5440 on: June 26, 2022, 12:31:41 AM »
Full Phone Call: Trump Pressures Georgia Secretary of State To "Find" Election Votes | NBC News

During an hourlong phone call, President Trump pressured Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to overturn the 2020 election results. Trump said, “I just want to find 11,780 votes.”

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« Reply #5441 on: June 26, 2022, 03:19:50 AM »
Legal expert walks through how DOJ raid on Jeff Clark could lead to Trump indictment



Ahead of the fifth public hearing for the House Select Committee investigating the attempt to overthrow the 2020 election, Donald Trump's former Assistant Attorney General Jeffrey Clark was raided by federal agents.

Clark whined to the Fox network, "12 agents and two Fairfax County police officers went into my house, searched it for three and a half hours." The agents "took all of the electronics from my house."

Clark penned a document that he tried to get officials at the Justice Department to sign on to that declared they were investigating the Georgia election "irregularities." There were no Georgia irregularities. When asked questions by the House Committee about the letter, Clark refused to answer, pleading the Fifth Amendment rights more than 100 times.

Speaking to CNN on Saturday, Constitutional and criminal defense attorney Page Pate explained that Clark is in big trouble.

"Well, we've heard a lot of discussion about the potential legal exposure and not just for the fake elector but for the people that were involved in getting these electors selected and chosen and eventually sending this slate up to the vice president, up to the national archives," said Pate. "We're looking at potential fault statement charges, potential obstruction charges, and potential seditious conspiracy charges. A lot of it will depend on the evidence that is being developed right now, subpoenas have gone out, and search warrants have been issued so once the department gathers all of that. They're sorting through it and see if there is sufficient evidence to prove one of those charges."

He went on to explain that he thinks it is possible that the former president could face charges.

"I do think it is possible, and here is why: I think there was so much legal news this week that I think a lot of people may have overlooked what is probably the single most significant thing that has happened so far in the Jan. 6 committee hearings," he noted. "And that was something that was not in the committee itself, but the search warrant that was executed at the residence of Jeffrey Clark. He is a former top-level justice department official!"

He explained that to get a search warrant a federal judge must find that there is probable cause for it. The attorney general can't simply go rogue, as Trump learned after the 2020 election. So, in the case of Clark, a judge must believe that a crime has been committed based on the evidence shown to the court.

"This is not like a subpoena," Pate continued. "A subpoena is when we're investigating to see if there is a crime that has been committed. When a search warrant is issued, there is probable cause, there has been a crime. We're just trying to get the evidence to prove who do it. So, I think the fact that they are now focusing on Jeffrey Clark and people very close to the president during these pivotal days, right around Jan. 6, suggests that this investigation is far from over."

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« Reply #5442 on: June 26, 2022, 09:44:07 AM »
'Asking for pardons is pretty close to a confession': Democratic congresswoman says of GOP pardon pleas



Rep. Mary Gay Scanlon (D-PA) spoke to Raw Story last week about her observations of the Republican reconnaissance tours that happened ahead of the Jan. 6, 2021 attacks. She explained on Saturday evening that about 30 or so members saw the tours.

Speaking to MSNBC on Saturday, however, Scanlon noted that the Republicans haven't been confessing, "although asking for a pardon is pretty close to a confession."

"You know, we hear from the Jan. 6 Committee that they are getting more evidence," she said of the House Select Committee investigating the attack on Congress and attempt to overthrow the 2020 election. "They've taken a pause in the hearing to digest some of the evidence that they have received just in the last week or so. Certainly, members of the committee looked very confident and they keep suggesting that there is more evidence to come that we are far from bombshells here. You know, it is kind of hard to read the mood on the other side of the aisle now. Some people have been quite noisy — in the passing a little bit quieter."

She went on to describe the concerns she continues to have over the Republican-led tours of people who then attended the attack on the Capitol.

"I was one of 30 some odd members who had seen tours of the capital on the day or two before the insurrection," Rep. Scanlon said. "We asked the Capitol Police to investigate because there were not supposed to be any tours at that time. And in order to get people in there to have it where they had to be admitted by a member or the member staff. So, we clearly saw tours when we asked for that investigation. Folks on the other side of the aisle denied that there had been any tours. And they filed an ethics complaint against us. So, they were very noisy. Well, of course, just last week we found out that yes, the were tours. In fact, there is a videotape of those tours. And so, there's been this backtracking. So, we are hearing some people be less noisy than before. But I think there is a lot more to come."

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« Reply #5443 on: June 26, 2022, 09:49:51 AM »
Trump's MAGA candidates are fully open with their racism and the real reason for overturning Roe. This is the same woman who praised Hitler.

Illinois Republican thanks Trump for giving 'white life' an edge up with overturning of Roe



Rep. Mary Miller (R-IL) is being targeted for a comment she made Saturday night at a rally for Donald Trump.

Miller told the crowd how thankful she was for Trump appointing three Supreme Court justices that ensured the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. What followed, however, left people questioning whether she revealed herself to be a white supremacist or it was an accidental slip.

"President Trump, on behalf of all the MAGA patriots in America. I want to thank you for the historic victory for white life in the Supreme Court yesterday," she said.

She is up against Rep. Rodney Davis (R-IL) in a GOP primary on Tuesday.

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« Reply #5444 on: June 26, 2022, 09:54:45 AM »
Trump in 'uncensored' documentary footage will unveil 'a lot of little treasures': ex-Justice Department official



Former Assistant Deputy Attorney General Harry Litman addressed the revelation that on Jan. 6, former President Donald Trump had a film crew following him and documenting him in the White House.

Speaking about it on MSNBC, Litman explained that the goal of the film from the Trump end was to lionize the former president.

"Trump gave him access, so there are going to be a lot of little things that they are pointing to," Litman told MSNBC's Alicia Menendez. "But Trump is a notoriously uncensored figure. Once he starts talking, he doesn't stop. It almost doesn't matter who the audience is, remember his conversations with Phil Rucker and Carol Leonig? Once you wind him up, there is no end to what he will say... He is really just sort of rolling the camera and letting him roll, but we've got Trump, we've got Trump's inner circle, we've got [Mike] Pence, and it starts from October and before the election, and goes on. So, it just figures to be a lot of real little treasures coming out."

As he noted, the House Select Committee investigating the plot to overthrow Congress has "stopped the music" when filmmaker Alex Holder revealed the footage. They're taking a break over the July 4th holiday, but they're also going to review the 11 hours of footage that Holder has turned over. He testified on Thursday ahead of the public hearing.

Menendez went on to play the clip of Ruby Freeman sobbing to the committee that she was targeted by the president and he abused the power of his office to try and destroy the life of someone he didn't even know with false allegations.

Litman explained that there is little that can be done to get justice for Freeman from the former president, but she has launched lawsuits against media outlets that reported false stories about her. There's already been a settlement between Freeman and the right-wing network OANN and a case is pending with The Gateway Pundit. Her legal fundraising campaign has drawn over 4,200 donations from individuals trying to help her.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5445 on: June 26, 2022, 10:36:21 AM »
Gov. Kemp receives subpoena to testify for special grand jury in Trump election probe

ATLANTA — Gov. Brian Kemp has received a subpoena to testify in front of the special grand jury investigating possible criminal interference in the 2020 Georgia election.

Kemp’s office confirmed to Channel 2′s Richard Elliot that he received a subpoena this week. The governor’s office said it has no further comment at this time.

Special prosecutor Nathan Wade sent the governor’s attorney a letter along with the subpoena.

“Fulton County District Attorney’s Office has agreed to take the Governor’s sworn recorded statement on July 25, 2022,” the letter states.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis called for the grand jury to investigate if calls made to Georgia leaders after the 2020 election amounted to election tampering.

It includes former President Donald Trump’s now-infamous phone call with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger asking him to find votes in the 2020 election.

“So look, all I want to do is just, I want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state,” Trump said at the time during the call with Raffensperger.

Willis told Channel 2 that she asked for this grand jury after she said too many potential witnesses declined to cooperate with her own 15-month long investigation without a subpoena.

The grand jury can grant Willis the legal authority to issue subpoenas to compel those people to talk and produce evidence like documents and recordings.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/georgia/gov-kemp-testify-special-grand-jury-trump-election-probe/53IIVJZCL5FZJBJZH7AHREHPSE/

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« Reply #5446 on: June 27, 2022, 05:49:57 AM »
Trump insider 'worried' and sees 'possibility' of criminal charges: report



According to a report from the HuffPost, political observers believe the televised Jan 6th hearings are "moving the needle," on the public perception that Donald Trump not only committed crimes when he attempted to subvert the results of the 2020 presidential election but that he could actually be charged.

After five public hearings so far -- with more on the horizon -- S.V Date wrote that the hearings, which one conservative called "incredibly well-executed," has one Trump insider admitting that the former president could be in real trouble.

According to former senior Justice Department prosecutor Mary McCord, "Given the ubiquity of commentary about the evidence being presented during the hearings, whether on the news, social media or at the water cooler, it would be hard not to be exposed to it at least to a limited extent. This has the potential to move the needle a bit for people who aren’t firmly in the Trump camp already, possibly viewing more skeptically those who seek to downplay Jan. 6 and the involvement of others that led to it.”

After five public hearings so far -- with more on the horizon -- S.V Date wrote that the hearings, which one conservative called "incredibly well-executed," has one Trump insider admitting that the former president could be in real trouble.

According to former senior Justice Department prosecutor Mary McCord, "Given the ubiquity of commentary about the evidence being presented during the hearings, whether on the news, social media or at the water cooler, it would be hard not to be exposed to it at least to a limited extent. This has the potential to move the needle a bit for people who aren’t firmly in the Trump camp already, possibly viewing more skeptically those who seek to downplay Jan. 6 and the involvement of others that led to it.”

Former senior aide to Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz (R) agreed, adding, "People are familiar with what happened on Jan. 6 but millions of people are tuning into the hearings and finding out why it did. The hearings provide a chance for the public to rethink these events and change their minds, given all the new information.”

After writing, "The hearings are doing a good job laying out the various laws Trump appears to have broken as he tried to remain in power despite his election loss," Date quoted former prosecutor Glenn Kirschner predicting, "I suspect, when it’s all said and done, we will learn that DOJ has been investigating in far-reaching fashion all along."

That has one Trump adviser, who asked to not be identified, admitting things are not going well for the former president.

"One top Trump adviser said he worried that the hearings are making criminal charges against Trump seem more justified and therefore, in his view, more likely. 'That is a possibility,' he said on condition of anonymity," Date wrote before adding that investigators are becoming less worried that "Trump’s open threat to create civil unrest as a societal cost for prosecutors to consider when deciding to charge him may, in the end, fail to be the deterrent he might have hoped."

The report adds, "... legal experts, including former prosecutors, said the facts laid out by the committee would absolutely support criminal charges against Trump himself, given the testimony of top White House and campaign aides telling Trump he had lost the election and that his efforts to overturn that loss were both illegal and unconstitutional."

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jan-6-trump-criminal-charges_n_62b48d67e4b06594c1e11989

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5447 on: June 27, 2022, 06:04:53 AM »
Michael Cohen paints grim portrait of what awaits John Eastman for protecting Trump

Appearing on MSNBC on Sunday afternoon, former Donald Trump fixer Michael Cohen attempted to offer advice to attorney John Eastman who is facing likely criminal charges for trying to help the former president steal the 2020 presidential election.

Speaking with host Yasmin Vossoughian, Cohen -- who lost his law license and spent time in jail due to his work for Trump -- said it is inevitable that Trump will disassociate himself from Eastman before "throwing him under the bus."

"You don't want to be me, you don't to be that guy, self-surrendering to any FCI institution in this country," he began. "One of the things that I can assure you that is going to occur here -- look already, there are articles written, like Rolling Stone did one, as Donald was talking about John Eastman, about distancing himself"

"As a result of what is going on, John Eastman is bringing -- this is the greatest part -- he's bringing negative attention and media coverage to Donald's inner sanctum and what went on there January 6th at the insurrection," he continued. "Now, what John Eastman did was, like with me, at the direction and for the benefit of Donald Trump. And Donald goes on and, what is the next thing? It's the disparagement; he's going to say he barely knows him. That, you know, he hardly knows him and anything that John Eastman or Jeffrey Clark did was done at their own volition."

"And then, of course, destroy the lives," he elaborated. "You're going to see these people in the same situation that I was in, self-surrendering to an institution and being away from your family, friends, losing your life, losing your happiness, your family's happiness, and I'm trying to -- if they're listening to this, please listen to my warning -- I'm telling you, you will be in the same situation."

"Welcome to under the bus club," he added.

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