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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5250 on: June 08, 2022, 10:31:51 AM »
Lying Faux "News" hack Tomi Lahren with another one of her bogus "election fraud" conspiracies going down in flames. These right wingers are pathetic fraudulent liars.   




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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5251 on: June 08, 2022, 12:06:08 PM »
Well, it looks like Lauren Boebert and little Marco Rubio joined in with the right wing chorus of scripted talking points attacking the January 6th Committee hearings on Thursday. Republicans are terrified of what the Committee will divulge, and rightfully so, because they were complicit in this coup.     

These are just the same right wing scripted talking points, and once you know the game the GOP plays, you know they have nothing else to offer.   

Boebert and Rubio are feigning outrage over $5 gallon of gas falsely attacking Democrats for "not doing anything about it".

Like I previously posted yesterday, when right wing congresswoman Elise Stefanik was tweeting the same talking points, Democrats passed "The Big Oil And Gas Price Gouging Bill" which will lower gas prices for American consumers. Moron High School dropout Lauren Boebert voted AGAINST the "Big Oil and Gas Price Gouging Bill" and so did Elise Stefanik. Marco Rubio along with Mitch McConnell in the Senate are blocking this bill from being voted on to become law. But here they are attacking Democrats when they voted against this Bill and blocked it. This is all right wing GOP political theatre hoping to get voters to turn on Democrats when it's Republicans that are voting against bills that will help Americans pay less at the pump.   

Boebert asks what are "Dems in DC doing to fix this"? House Democrats passed the "Big Oil and Gas Price Gouging Bill" to lower gas prices for you. Senate Democrats would pass this bill to become a law but Senate Republicans are blocking this bill so it won't become a law to lower gas prices for you. They want gas prices to remain high so they can post attack tweets like this hoping to score political points for the election.

What are Republicans doing to fix it? Absolutely nothing. They voted NO to lower gas prices for you. Senate Republicans are blocking this Bill from becoming law to lower gas prices for you. Actually I misspoke, Republicans are "doing something". They are engaging in sabotage to keep gas prices high on purpose.     

And let's not forget that Republicans refuse to do anything about gun violence and they voted AGAINST the Domestic Terrorism Bill that would help prevent violence and mass shootings.

Republicans in the House vote against these bills and Senate Republicans block them from even allowing a vote. Then they attack Democrats for "not doing anything" when it's Republicans that are voting against bills and blocking them.

Remember that in November.             





Pretty much the same scripted talking points from the both of them.

Once again below, I will post the 2 major bills House Republicans voted against along with Stefanik's same scripted tweet. Just right wing propaganda is all that this is.           

Below you will see "The Big Oil And Gas Price Gouging Bill" Lauren Boebert voted AGAINST but is attacking Democrats for "not doing anything about gas prices ". She is a right wing fraud. Below that, you will see the Domestic Terrorism Bill that Republicans voted against as well.





House Republicans had a chance to vote "Yes" to lower gas prices for you but instead they voted "NO". They have no business feigning outrage over gas prices when they refused to lower gas prices. And that includes insurrectionist Lauren Boebert who voted against this bill. 

Senate Republicans are purposely blocking "The Big Oil And Gas Price Gouging Bill" from being voted on because they don't want gas prices to be lowered. They want gas prices to be high so they can keep falsely attacking Biden and Democrats for "not doing anything". Republicans are playing politics with your finances because they are sadistic and will do anything to seize control of power. They already attempted a coup so they will do anything to regain power.       

We also have the Domestic Terrorism Bill which will help prevent mass shootings and violence in America. Only one Republican voted "Yes" to prevent domestic terrorism. Every other Republican voted "NO". They clearly do not want to keep you safe, otherwise they would have voted "yes". And as usual, Republicans in the Senate are blocking this bill from becoming law as well. Every single Democrat in the House voted "Yes" to keep you safe.

What are Republicans doing for the American people? The answer is not a damn thing. They vote "no" to stop Big Oil companies from gouging consumers at the pump with artificially high gas prices for profit and they vote against keeping you safe from mass shooters and violent white supremacist groups. Why would anybody vote Republican when they are voting against you?

The only party looking out for you are the Democrats. They voted to lower gas prices and to prevent domestic terrorism in the United States.

Are you tired of Senate Republicans blocking these Democratic bills from becoming law? Then you need to vote for Democrats in the Senate to expand their majority to end the filibuster which will stop Republicans from blocking it. The simple fact is, no real meaningful legislation will ever get passed unless Democrats have a clear Senate majority because Republicans will keep blocking it. With a clear Senate majority for Democrats, these sadistic Republicans will no longer be able to block the legislation the overwhelming majority of Americans demand. We are being held hostage by a minority of Republicans but that will change if you vote blue.

Once again, the same lying scripted right wing talking points.           






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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5252 on: June 08, 2022, 12:26:25 PM »
Top aide ‘consolidated power’ and excluded Mike Pence from meetings as Trump pushed his ‘big lie’: report

On Tuesday, writing for The New Yorker as an excerpt for her upcoming book with Peter Baker, Susan Glasser detailed how former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows gradually tried to push then-Vice President Mike Pence out of White House meetings as he assumed control of former President Donald Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

"Over the next two months, as Trump pursued his 'rigged election' claims, Meadows further consolidated power in the White House, eventually excluding Vice-President Pence from meetings he had once attended as a matter of course," wrote Glasser. "'Meadows really tried to separate Pence from Trump for the last couple months,' a White House official noted."

According to the report, Meadows "played both sides," telling various parties within the Trump administration different accounts of what he was doing.

"He reassured Barr that Trump would leave office while personally pressing to overturn results in key states and pressuring Cabinet officials," said the report. "On December 21st, he attended a meeting with his former colleagues from the Freedom Caucus at the Oval Office, where the lawmakers strategized with Meadows and Trump over how to block Pence from carrying out his constitutional duty to preside over the counting of the electoral votes that would finalize Trump’s defeat."

"On January 6th, Meadows was bombarded with text messages and calls urging him to stop the storming of the Capitol — an action that he helped foment," the report noted. "Even Don, Jr., who had also promoted the election lies, frantically urged Meadows to get his father to turn down the temperature. 'He’s got to condemn this sh*t Asap,' he texted the chief of staff. 'The Capitol Police tweet is not enough.'"

Last week, the Justice Department declined to charge Meadows with contempt of Congress, as he had at least cooperated with the January 6 Committee to a greater extent than other members of Trump's inner circle including Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro.

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https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/mark-meadows-was-trumps-matador-for-his-fake-election-lies

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5253 on: June 08, 2022, 01:11:02 PM »
Editorial: Evidence mounts that Trump's campaign knew its vote-fraud claims were bogus

A core question regarding former President Donald Trump’s extensive attempts to overturn the 2020 election was whether he actually believed the election-fraud lies he was peddling, or if he understood all along that he had legitimately lost, and he was merely using those lies to attempt to remain in office. A newly revealed email, in which a top Trump campaign official specifically directed fake Trump electors in Georgia to hide their scheme, indicates it was the latter.

The Capitol mob’s attempt to prevent Joe Biden’s confirmation as the elected new president on Jan. 6, 2021, was only the most obvious and violent manifestation of a multipronged effort by Trump’s campaign to retain power. Part of that effort involved dozens of court filings alleging mass voter fraud, all of which failed.

The campaign, and Trump personally, also worked key state election officials behind the scenes. “I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have” in losing Georgia, Trump infamously (and fruitlessly) told Georgia’s Republican secretary of state. That request came pretty close to smoking-gun proof that Trump wasn’t innocently delusional about the election outcome, but that he knew he’d lost and was trying to skew the results.

The email, obtained this week by The Washington Post and CNN, is further proof that the people running Trump’s campaign also knew fully well what they were doing.

The email, part of a Justice Department investigation, is from Robert Sinners, a top Trump campaign official in Georgia, to a group of Republicans who were part of a scheme to file competing slates of electors for Trump in key states that he lost. The scheme was designed to sow doubt about the outcomes in those states by claiming these fake electors were the legitimate ones.

In the email, though, Sinners directed the fake electors to engage in a level of secrecy about their plan that makes it difficult to argue the participants genuinely believed they were the legitimate electors as they entered the Georgia statehouse to file their votes in mid-December of 2020.

“I must ask for your complete discretion in this process,” Sinners wrote. “Your duties are imperative to ensure the end result — a win in Georgia for President Trump — but will be hampered unless we have complete secrecy and discretion.” As part of that “discretion,” he directed them to lie to statehouse security about why they were there, concocting fake meetings with Republican legislators. “Please, at no point should you mention anything to do with Presidential Electors or speak to media.”

That doesn’t sound like someone who is trying to stop the theft of an election, but rather is trying to steal one. That factor should figure into the upcoming House hearings regarding Jan. 6 — and into the question of whether Trump and those around him should face prosecution.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5254 on: June 08, 2022, 02:13:49 PM »
Exclusive: Pro-Trump social media guru signaled awareness of militia plans in pre-Jan. 6 conference call



Jason Sullivan, a pro-Trump social media strategist who is aligned with QAnon, assured listeners on a conference call one week before the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol that the information they had been hearing about election fraud and bribery was all going to come out into the open soon.

And with the disclosure of fraud and corruption, Sullivan promised, would come indictments and arrests.

“That’s why President Trump invited everybody there and said it’s going to be quote-unquote wild,” Sullivan said. “It is going to be wild. All these people are implicated. And when they certify those states, they are certifying their crime…. If they knew that there was election fraud that took place and they were involved, or they witnessed it in some way, and they certified the state, they have sealed their doom.”

Then, Sullivan indicated that he was aware of plans by militia groups to take action on Trump’s behalf.

“There’s dates floating around for some of the people in the militia, okay?” Sullivan said. “They will not allow Biden to go into the White House. That’s a fact. I’m not part of that. I don’t applaud that. I don’t endorse it. I don’t encourage it. But I do have my ear to the railroad. We have all the real-time social media intelligence you could imagine.”

AUDIO 1: Dates floating around for some of the people in the militia

The audio recording of Sullivan’s remarks, which is being published for the first time by Raw Story, is an indication that at least some of the operatives and influencers working to mobilize Trump supporters to go to Washington, DC in the weeks leading up to Jan. 6, 2021 were aware of plans by militia groups to intervene to prevent the peaceful transition of presidential power.

The audio was provided to Raw Story by Staci Burk, a law school student. It was recorded while members of a security group known as 1st Amendment Praetorian, or 1AP, were at her house. Retired Lt. General Michael Flynn, who was working closely with attorney Sidney Powell to overturn the 2020 election, arranged for the protective detail from 1AP to go to Burk’s house, which she believes was to obtain an affidavit from her, control the narrative, and gain access to a witness they sought. By August 2021, once Burk had been away from 1AP and understood she had been lied to and manipulated, she concluded there was no credible evidence of widespread election fraud.

On the recording, the 1AP member at Burk’s house can be heard saying that he was invited to join the call by Robert Patrick Lewis, the founder of the group. Burk told Raw Story that she recorded things because she feared for her safety.

Sullivan’s comments about the militia groups’ posture towards Biden’s presidency prefaced another set of remarks, which has been previously reported by the New York Times, predicting that Trump would declare martial law. The idea that Trump should invoke the Insurrection Act and order the National Guard to seize voting machines and re-run the election had been brought to Trump by Flynn and Powell, along with former Overstock.com CEO, during a Dec. 18, 2020 meeting at the White House. During the Dec. 30 conference call, Sullivan suggested that by declaring martial law, Trump could avoid the necessity of an intervention by militia groups.

“And I don’t see any other way around it,” Sullivan said. “Because, first of all, they’re not going to allow any election fraud to take place. It’s not gonna happen. Biden will never be in that White House. That’s my promise to each and every one of you.”

Under such a scenario, pushback from left-leaning groups like Black Lives Matter and “antifa” could be expected, Sullivan continued.

“At that point, there is no more playing games: ‘We’re telling you, you got a curfew, and you gotta abide by it. Otherwise, you’re gonna get shot in the rear-end, okay. And it may be real bullets — who knows?’” he said. “But he’s not going to allow them to descend on all of our cities and burn down our cities, number one. And the main reason for that is, if he did allow them to do all of that, our militia would step up and meet them with great force, and we would therefore find ourselves in a civil war. There’s no question about that. Does anybody doubt that?”

In addition to prosecution of government officials for fraud — a QAnon fantasy promoted by many of the Trump’s followers that did not come to fruition — Sullivan told listeners on the call that public pressure would also needed to deter lawmakers from certifying Biden’s as the next president on Jan. 6.

“And that multi-front strategy, I do think, is descend on the Capitol, without question,” Sullivan said. “Make those people feel it inside so they understand that people are breathing down their neck. And we’ve had it. And we’ve got to be perfectly clear about it — now, I’m not inciting violence or any type of riots or anything like that. But we need to be loud.”

AUDIO 2: President Trump's not going to allow

Sullivan could not be reached for this story.

Burk told Raw Story that she provided a copy of the recording to the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol in October 2021. She noted that Flynn and 1st Amendment Praetorian founder Robert Patrick Lewis received subpoenas from the committee, which begins public hearings Thursday [June 9], after Burk turned over her recording.

“We need to be like Jericho,” Sullivan told listeners on the call, as he described how he wanted to put pressure on lawmakers on Jan. 6. “We need to shout and scream for the walls to fall down on Capitol Hill. That’s what this optic needs to look like. And I can promise you: I can make that go so viral, so fast, across the globe. I know people. Trust me. And we know how to manipulate and drive the narrative by design.”

Sullivan worked for political consultant Roger Stone under contract during the 2016 campaign. During an appearance at the QAnon gathering For God & Country Patriot Roundup in Dallas last May, he boasted of having played a part in “the biggest political upset in modern-day political history.”

“We shocked ’em, caught ’em off guard,” Sullivan said. “We were able to reach out to all the key influencers in real-time with real-time information that when it mattered most, in the moment of influence. Able to hit ’em where it hurts, first, second, third. Able to amplify exactly what needs to be amplified at the moment of influence… pushed it out there, made sure the world knew about it. Change the narrative. Change the trajectory of the narrative. That’s what we do. This is an information war.”

In April, Stone’s lawyer sent Sullivan a letter ordering him to stop representing himself as “Roger Stone’s senior social media advisor.” In the letter, attorney Grant J. Smith said Sullivan had been fired for cause after “the use of your purported ‘proprietary technologies’ resulted in Roger Stone’s personal suspension from Twitter.” The letter also accused Sullivan of leaking his appearance to the Mueller investigation grand jury in 2018.

Following Sullivan’s grand jury appearance he began to align with the QAnon movement, and embraced the nickname “Wizard of Twitter.”

The HBO documentary Q: Into the Storm features a call with 8kun administrator Ron Watkins, in which Sullivan says, “If Q is trying to utilize or optimize abilities on Twitter, then we can make them better.”

In the film, Watkins tells filmmaker Cullen Hoback: “You know that Sullivan guy, Jason Sullivan? He finally, finally gave me access to that tool…. Yeah, yeah, he got banned from Twitter. So, he had to reboot it. And his reboot is being used by me now. And it’s a super tool. This tool is amazing. My account is the second most powerful Twitter account next to Trump.”

Watkins was actively involved in the effort to overturn the 2020 election. Introduced as “a large systems data analyst,” he was featured in the One America News special “Dominion-izing the Vote,” which promoted the false impression that Dominion Voting System allowed the election to be manipulated. Watkins provided a sworn declaration that was filed by attorney Sidney Powell in her federal lawsuit attempting to overturn the election result in Arizona.

And on Jan. 5 and 6, Watkins tweeted out links to a three-part series of articles by QAnon influencer Robert Cornero Jr. accusing Vice President Mike Pence and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein of assorted treasonous misconduct, including murder and ped*philia. The false stories shared by Watkins were sourced to a discredited felon named Ryan Dark White.

Ron Watkins could not be reached for comment.

Sullivan was at the Capitol on Jan. 6 and was listed as a speaker at a rally hosted by Latinos for Trump near the Russell Senate Office Building that day. An archived website for the Freedom Rally shows Sullivan featured as a speaker alongside Latinos for Trump president Bianca Gracia, Oath Keepers general counsel Kellye SoRelle, Veterans for America First co-founder Joshua Macias, Bikers for Trump member RC Pittman and Keith and Kenny Lee of MAGA Drag the Interstate. Photos from the event show Sullivan speaking with Pittman and posing alongside Felisa Blazek, the woman who hosted the Dec. 30, 2020 conference call.



The government’s prosecution of the Oath Keepers on seditious conspiracy charges has provided a window into members’ discussions around the time of the Dec. 30 conference call in which Sullivan mobilized Trump supporters to go to Washington, DC.

Stewart Rhodes, the Oath Keepers’ founder and one of 10 men facing sedition charges, warned a regional leader of the militia group that “we will have to do a bloody, massively bloody revolution against them” if Biden were to become president, according to his indictment. During the same interview, Rhodes reportedly urged Trump to use military force to prevent the lawful transfer of presidential power, while describing Jan. 6 as a “hard constitutional deadline.”

On Christmas Day, according to the indictment, Florida Oath Keepers leader Kelly Meggs told fellow members in an encrypted chat that when the joint session of Congress convened on Jan. 6, “We need to make those senators very uncomfortable with all of us being a few hundred feet away.”

Rhodes responded, according to the indictment: “I think Congress will screw [Trump] over. The only chance is if we scare the s***out of them and convince them it will be torches and pitchforks time if they don’t do the right thing. But I don’t think they will listen.”

The threat of violence on Jan. 6 was apparent even to some outside of the planning circles.

Olivia Troye, a former White House homeland security advisor to Vice President Pence, told MSNBC on Dec. 28, 2020: “Well, you know, I am actually very concerned that there will be violence on January 6th because the president himself is encouraging it. This is what he does. He tweets. He incites it. He gets his followers and supporters to behave in this manner. And these people think that they’re being patriotic because they are supporting Donald Trump.”

Judge Amit P. Mehta noted in an order allowing civil conspiracy lawsuits to go forward against Trump that the former president “would have known about the violence” that accompanied two rallies in DC that set the stage for Jan. 6, given that he tweeted about the preceding rallies. During the Nov. 14 and Dec. 12, 2020 rallies, members of the Proud Boys — five of whose members were indicted on Monday for seditious conspiracy — clashed with left-wing counter-protesters in downtown DC. And on Dec. 12, members of the Oath Keepers assisted 1st Amendment Praetorian in providing security for speakers.

"President Trump’s January 6 rally speech was akin to telling an excited mob that corn-dealers starve the poor in front of the corn-dealer’s home,” Mehta wrote in his ruling, which found that plaintiff lawmakers plausibly alleged that Trump, the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys national chairman Enrique Tarrio engaged in a civil conspiracy to prevent them from discharging their duties to certify Biden as the next president by means or force, intimidation or threats.

“He invited his supporters to Washington, DC, after telling them for months that corrupt and spineless politicians were to blame for stealing the election from them,” Mehta wrote, “retold that narrative when thousands of them assembled at the Ellipse; and directed them to march on the Capitol building — the metaphorical corn-dealer’s house — where those very politicians were at work to certify an election that he had lost.”

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https://www.rawstory.com/in-pre-jan-6-conference-call-pro-trump-social-media-guru-signaled-awareness-of-militia-plans/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5255 on: June 08, 2022, 03:03:17 PM »
Trump reacted 'bitterly' when longtime loyalist Hope Hicks didn't believe his voter fraud claims: book



A new book claims that multiple loyalists in former President Donald Trump's inner circle did not believe his claims of widespread fraud in the 2020 election -- but he completely blew them off and instead sought solace in the conspiracy theories being peddled by attorney Sidney Powell.

In an excerpt of the book published in the New York Times on Wednesday, journalists Peter Baker and Susan Glasser report that even longtime Trump confidant Hope Hicks, who had worked with him since the start of the 2016 presidential campaign, told him she would not indulge his delusions about having won the 2020 election.

Trump, according to the reporters, responded "bitterly."

"Well, Hope doesn’t believe in me," he said.

“No, I don’t,” she replied. “Nobody’s convinced me otherwise.”

Hicks would subsequently "disappear" from the White House in Trump's final two months, the reporters write, as would son-in-law Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump.

This would leave the door wide open to conspiracy theorists who would tell the twice-impeached former president what he wanted to hear about the purportedly "stolen" election, which in turn would lead to the January 6th riots at the United States Capitol building.

Baker and Glasser's book, titled "The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021,” is due to be published by Doubleday on September 20.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/08/us/politics/jared-kushner-trump-jan-6.html

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« Reply #5256 on: June 08, 2022, 03:18:14 PM »
Jan. 6 committee’s first hearing will highlight the tipping point moment when riot began



The House Select Committee investigating the January 6th Capitol riots has identified what investigators see as the tipping point that kicked off the U.S. Capitol riot, and they'll highlight that evidence during their first public hearing.

The panel will show how Donald Trump supporters marching on the U.S. Capitol turned into a violent mob, and Guardian reporter Hugo Lowell told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" that one key exchange between Proud Boys member Joe Biggs and another man, Ryan Samsel, was seen as the tipping point in the Jan. 6 insurrection.

"The way this is going to work, there's going to be a first hour where chairman Bennie Thompson and [Rep. Liz] Cheney will make opening arguments and provide a road map for the hearings ahead," Lowell explained, "and in the second hour, they'll get to the live witness testimony. Nick Quested, the live documentary filmmaker, will sit in the middle of the room, and next to him will be Capitol police officer Caroline Edwards, and it's basically going to track the footage that Nick Quested had shot on Jan. 6."

Quested had embedded with the Proud Boys and shot footage the day before the riot, but Lowell said the panel will focus on video he recorded as the violence first erupted.

"They're going focus on key moments like, when the Proud Boys member Joseph Biggs had an exchange, a brief exchange and an altercation with another man in the crowd, this man called Ryan Samsel, and people following the Capitol attack believe that's the moment when the Capitol attack started," Lowell said. "That's where the barricades got knocked over and Caroline Edwards got hit with a barricade and knocked backwards. It will illustrate the moments immediately before the Capitol attack, and that will be the focus of the first hearing."

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