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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4851 on: March 19, 2022, 10:48:57 PM »
Shut up, Trump!' Praise of Putin SLAMMED on live TV | 7NEWS

Former US President Donald Trump has praised Putin's encroachment on Ukraine as 'genius'. But an Australian television commentator, Jane Caro, was having none of it.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4852 on: March 19, 2022, 10:56:31 PM »
McMaster breaks with Trump: Putin 'certainly not someone to be praised'

Former national security adviser H.R. McMaster said that Russian President Vladimir Putin was not worthy of praise following Russia’s attack on Ukraine.

"He is certainly not someone to be praised, and I think what we ought to be encouraged by is the reaction across the free world. Really what Putin wants more than anything is disunity, because disunity will lead to an ineffective response," McMaster said on CNN, breaking with former President Trump, who has lauded Putin's moves as "genius."

"This is one campaign in his larger effort to drag everybody else down," McMaster also said of Putin.

McMaster's comments come after Trump earlier this week praised Putin’s tactics in Ukraine as “genius” and said Putin describing the invading troops as “peacekeepers” was both “smart” and “savvy.”

https://thehill.com/policy/international/595662-mcmaster-breaks-with-trump-putin-certainly-not-someone-to-be-praised

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4853 on: March 20, 2022, 10:21:34 AM »
Why? Because Criminal Donald is a Putin stooge Russian assest.

Trump’s praise of Putin, ‘America First’ view tested by war



WASHINGTON (AP) — From the earliest days of his first presidential campaign, Donald Trump aggressively challenged the pillars of Republican foreign policy that defined the party since World War II.

He mocked John McCain’s capture during the Vietnam War, validated autocrats with his platitudes, questioned longtime military and security alliances and embraced an isolationist worldview. And to the horror of many GOP leaders at the time, it worked, resonating with voters who believed, in part, that a bipartisan establishment in Washington had brokered trade deals that hurt American workers and recklessly stumbled into so-called “forever wars.”

But Russia’s brutal invasion of Ukraine is posing a serious test for Trump and his “America First” doctrine at a moment when he is eyeing another presidential run and using this year’s midterm elections to keep bending the GOP to his will. He’s largely alone in his sustained praise of Russian President Vladimir Putin as “smart,” an assessment he reiterated last week during speeches to donors and conservative activists. His often deferential vice president, Mike Pence, split with him on the issue late Friday.

The multinational partnerships that Trump repeatedly undermined, meanwhile, have allowed the West to quickly band together to hobble Russia’s economy with coordinated sanctions. The NATO alliance, which Trump once dismissed as “obsolete,” is flexing its strength as a foil to Russia’s aggression.

Perhaps most fundamentally, the war is a fresh reminder, observers say, that the U.S. can’t simply ignore the world’s problems, even if that’s sometimes a politically appealing way to connect with voters facing their own daily struggles.

“This is a brutal wake-up call to both parties that not only are we not going to be able to do less in the world,” said Richard Haass, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations and a former diplomat. “We are going to have to do more.”

While he argued that large elements of both parties have demonstrated a desire to turn inward, the current situation poses a “special problem” for Republicans and the “America firsters” who have previously tried to paint Russia has a benign actor.

“The entire thrust of America First, I would argue, was misguided in a world where what happens anywhere can and will affect us,” he said.

Trump was impeached for the first time for trying to pressure Ukraine to investigate his 2020 Democratic opponent, Joe Biden, and his son, Hunter Biden. The effort included holding up nearly $400 million in U.S. security aid to Ukraine and leveraging an Oval Office visit that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy had been requesting.

Trump also pushed discredited claims that Ukraine, not Russia, had meddled in the 2016 election, repeatedly siding with Putin over his own national intelligence agencies.

“Putin is the critical agent, but certainly Trump contributed to it with his scheme back then and continued to contribute it by undermining national security,” said retired U.S. Army lieutenant colonel Alexander Vindman, the former national security council whistleblower who raised alarms about Trump’s pressure tactics. “Ultimately the president undermined U.S. foreign policy because he weakened Ukraine.”


Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who has been laying the groundwork for his own potential presidential run, has largely abandoned the language he was criticized for using before the invasion, when had called Putin “very capable” and said he had “enormous respect for him.” Even Tucker Carlson, the popular Fox News host who had openly questioned why he shouldn’t side with Russia over Ukraine, has tried to walk back his pro-Russia rhetoric, saying, “We’ve been taken by surprise by the whole thing.”

That’s left Trump relatively isolated, defending his decision to label Putin as “smart” and criticizing the response from Biden and other Western leaders, even as he has denounced the invasion as “horrific” and a “very sad thing for the world.”

“NATO has the money now, but they’re not doing the job they should be doing,” he said this week on Fox Business. “It’s almost like they’re staying away.”

That has earned rebuke from some in his party.

In a speech to GOP donors Friday night, Pence forcefully defended NATO and admonished those who have defended Putin as he, too, weighs a presidential run.

“There is no room in this party for apologists for Putin,” he said, according to his prepared remarks. “There is only room for champions of freedom.”

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell told Fox News there “should be no confusion about Vladimir Putin.

“He’s a thug. He’s a killer,” McConnell said. “He’s been on the rampage and this will not end well for him.”

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4854 on: March 20, 2022, 10:33:04 AM »
Seems like Donnie can't praise his puppet master Putin enough. He's doing it yet again! Donnie is an anti American traitor.

SPLIT SCREEN: While Trump Again Praises Putin, Biden Unites Our Allies

MARCH 14, 2022


In just 48 hours this weekend, Donald Trump praised his favorite murderous dictator yet again, and tried to rewrite history and say Putin’s unprovoked attack was driven by a “lot of love.” Not only is this behavior just plain vile, it also stands in stark contrast to President Biden, who is uniting our allies to hold Russia accountable with unprecedented sanctions and send arms to Ukraine.

Donald Trump spent the weekend heaping more praise on Putin, who he called “driven,” and said Putin’s motivation to launch an unprovoked attack that’s claimed hundreds of Ukrainian civilians’ lives was because he had a “lot of love.”

Newsweek: “Trump Says ‘Lot of Love’ Behind Putin Wanting to ‘Make His Country Larger’”

NBC News: “While Trump inched closer to criticizing Putin’s invasion of Ukraine Saturday night, he continued to portray the Russian leader in a positive light. ‘It happens to be a man that is just driven, he’s driven to put it together,’ Trump said at a political rally in South Carolina.”

NBC News: “Former President Donald Trump is trying to fix his Putin problem but he still hasn’t been able to criticize Russia’s leader the same way he treats his other opponents.”

Meanwhile, President Biden has united our allies across the globe to stand strong against Russian aggression, enforce unprecedented sanctions, and arm Ukraine against the Russian invasion.

Politico: “The same alliance, NATO, that Trump lambasted and tried to undermine, banded together and sent weapons to the front, while Europe and the U.S. have unleashed waves of increasingly punitive economic sanctions on Russia. And the same foreign leader, Putin, with whom Trump repeatedly sided over his own government, has been turned into an international pariah.”

Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine William Taylor: “The commitment the Biden administration has made to the United States’ allies stands in stark contrast to the apparent lack of commitment from the previous administration.”

https://democrats.org/news/split-screen-while-trump-again-praises-putin-biden-unites-our-allies/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4855 on: March 20, 2022, 03:03:32 PM »
Why? Because Criminal Donald is a Putin stooge Russian assest.



Tin foil hat nonsense.  If Trump were an "asset" of Putin (what does even mean in human speak) then why didn't Putin invade while Trump was President?   It's laughable to be fixated on Trump over a year after he is no longer president.  And Trump has condemned the Ukraine invasion in unambiguous language.  Rick knows this because I've posted it several times.  It doesn't fit his fantasy narrative, though.  But here it is again:

"The Russian attack on Ukraine is appalling, it's an outrage and an atrocity that should never have been allowed to occur.  We are praying for the proud people of Ukraine. God bless them all."

President Donald J. Trump (statement on 02/26/22)




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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4856 on: March 20, 2022, 10:57:41 PM »
How Joe Biden 're-ignited our government engine' after Donald Trump's damage



What is the source of American power? What, to reclaim a denuded phrase, makes America great? Not the biggest economy, the most powerful military, nor the most coveted cultural icons.

Those are end products, not causes.

They beg the question.

Our strength derives from basic factors: openness to ideas, exchange of argument and ability to process information into good decisions.

If these seem like fuzzy qualities, they’re not.

Economists generally agree our greater capacity to innovate and our superior ability to process complex information in a modern economy won the economic battle of the 20th century. Our relative wealth and qualitative technology advantage flowed into military might.

That combination won the Cold War.

Our federal government plays a central role in that story.

At its best, it reflects the same advantages. That has rarely been clearer than in the way the administration under President Biden has navigated the crisis in Ukraine, displaying forethought and balance, innovating in information warfare, leading and reinvigorating our alliances in Europe, carefully calibrating devastating sanctions, and avoiding disastrous missteps that could lead to World War III.

None of this happened by accident.

Read this description from Max Bergmann, a former senior State Department official, of how our government’s process works (or is supposed to, when it is well-run) in a situation like we face right now:

There are countless inter-agency meetings. There are conversations happening on defense, on military assistance, on sanctions. Experts are exchanging information and ideas.

If State says “we need to turn the screws more on Russia on energy,” Treasury might say, we have some concerns – and then they’ll work together to figure out how to make it work, while someone from Energy will describe where our oil comes from and where we could get other supplies.

Then we might bring in the Middle East experts. Oftentimes there'll be a meeting and then you realize there's like eight other things you need to find out.

Eventually you might develop four different options, but then two options will go up further to the secretaries and the president.

And sometimes the president says “I don't like any of these options, bring me more” and then it kicks back down.

Bureaucratic and even a bit tangled? Sure.

Our system produces plenty of mistakes.

But notice the virtues: the tremendous amount of information we harness, the constructive argument, and the ability to give the big boss information he may not want to hear.

Contrast that with the disconnect, both physical and mental, between Russia’s leader and the system he presides over – whether he is sitting a field goal’s length from his advisors or overseeing a bizarre, fake “exchange of views” before berating the head of his spy service for blowing the pre-arranged script.

So why, as Bill Clinton would say, am I telling you this?

Because few people fully appreciate the true significance of the executive branch agencies in our federal government, how badly former President Trump damaged them and how much value we are thereby getting out of electing Joe Biden as president.

As Michael Lewis showed in his book The Fifth Risk, the federal government is the greatest information collection and processing machine ever devised by humankind for making better decisions and driving a nation’s business and economic success.

Trump Russia-fied it.

He rifled through his rolodex of oligarchs and installed sycophantic bumblers (a man who couldn’t recall the existence of his agency), ideologues compromised by foreign governments, grifters and corporate raiders on the make into key leadership positions.

The most senior leaders seemed to neither know nor care what their job was while experienced government professionals in the levels below stood aghast at the wreckage to good government.

Trump not only failed to leverage the potential of the system (unsurprising from a man who believed that he “alone” could fix things), he pulled a full Putin by outright ignoring the collective smarts of his massive support structure whenever he was seized by a fantastical notion or random whim.

The most famous incidents varied from the comic (think sharpie-hurricane), to the tragi-comic (injecting disinfectant), to the downright tragic (the Syria withdrawal that even leading Republicans called “disastrous” and a “betrayal”).

But the damage went much deeper.

The federal agencies are not just a source of knowledge and idea generation to support decision-making at the top.

They are the workhorses of governing in America.

In fact, given the relative dysfunction of the Congress, executive branch agencies are where most policy affecting people’s lives is made.

And it’s a normal function of any administration to use the might of federal agencies to push through their preferred policy agenda.

So even when Trump wasn’t filling the government with incompetence or larceny, his agencies were still implementing a lot more policy with real consequences than people realize.

The internet is replete with lists (here’s a great example) of how much happened each week during Trump’s four years. It is noteworthy that not all of it was rightwing – and whether by inertia or design not all of it was bad – but much of it was, and the net effect was profound.

Uber drivers lost health insurance, nursing home residents could be forced into arbitration, more defrauded students will be compelled to repay student loans, and safety measures for toxic chemical exposures in the construction industry were rolled back, to name a tiny fraction.

Not to mention the invaluable data that has fueled waves of innovation and economic growth that was diverted to Trump cronies.

All of which is why the “Biden dividend” is so much bigger and more consequential than the paltry amount he gets credit for.

By Merely putting a stop to what Trump’s team had underway as they left office and then issuing “savvy” executive actions that unwound the worst damage, the Biden administration fundamentally changed the substrate of US policy. With agency staff still coming into place and reviews still underway, the most profound impacts are yet to come.

None of this is sexy.

There will be no 30-second ads about agency rulemaking, no bumper sticker slogan about fixing the gears of government.

We won’t hear much in the fall about how Biden’s team gathered data and developed ideas to smartly navigate a great geopolitical crisis.

But make no mistake: Joe Biden has already shown he knows how to tap into the greatest gifts of the American system, and has re-ignited our government engine of policy progress and economic innovation.

https://www.rawstory.com/how-joe-biden-re-ignited-our-government-engine-after-donald-trump-s-damage/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4857 on: March 21, 2022, 12:35:43 AM »
The GOP is no longer the "Grand Old Party". It's a conspiracy cult that was hijacked by Donald Trump and conspiracy cult religious radicals along with white supremacists and various hate groups who are desperately trying to destroy our democracy wanting to replace it with an autocracy like in Russia. It's no wonder Trump and his cultists support and praise Putin, with his most loyal followers in the GOP House and Senate voting against aid to Ukraine or ending normal relations with Russia. They are all in for Russia and Putin. Their actions and words have made it obvious.   

Donald Trump is a joke. He is a career criminal and failed businessman who has been committing various financial crimes for his entire life. He caught a lucky break when he was offered to do a scripted reality tv show which made him look like a successful businessman. It was all a mirage and people bought into this phony nonsense of Trump being a "great businessman" based on Hollywood television writers.

From there, Donnie tapped into the racism and the hatred the far right had for President Obama by inventing the fake "birther" conspiracy theory. He accused President Obama of being born In Kenya and falsifying all his college degrees. That was only projection because it turns out that Donnie paid another student in College to take his tests for him because he was too stupid to pass them himself.

So, Donnie went around the media attacking President Obama demanding to see his birth certificate and the dishonest MSM eagerly gave him a platform to spew his vile and racist conspiracies. So much for the media being "liberal". If they were "liberal", they never would have given this racist fraud a platform to promote his filth.                   
Donnie's goal was to divide Americans based on race which was the Russian playbook Putin called for to weaken the United States. Donnie's entire platform was based on racial division and promoting hatred. He viciously attacked Hispanics and Asians, as we now see Asian hate crimes at an all time high thanks to Donnie's racist rhetoric against Asians. He went after muslims and even Jewish people. All of that was designed to promote chaos and division which is what Russia called for to weaken the United States. Donnie is Putin's stooge and was doing what his puppet master Putin told him to do. If you read "Foundations of Geopolitics", which is the entire Russian playbook to control the world, you can see Donald Trump has done everything that Russia called for to weaken the United States.                       

"Russia showed in Estonia, and again in the United States in 2016, that exploiting the biggest divisions — national identity, immigration, race, inequality — causes the most disruption. The more one side loathes the other, the easier they are to manipulate."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/06/the-weekly/russia-estonia-election-cyber-attack.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

Donnie caused great divisions in national identity, immigration, race, and inequality. His main platform was anti immigration and race which divided America even more. Donnie used a symbol of a "wall" to further enrage his rabid base against immigrants claiming he "would force" Mexico to pay for a thousand mile wall. His ignorant base actually believed that was going to happen and they still do. It was all b.s. in order to cause more disruption and division in America.

The 1/6 insurrection was another example of the chaos and violence Donald Trump incited to further weaken America and to destroy our democracy. The GOP played along and let him off the hook during his second impeachment trial. They also took part in the coup trying to prevent the rightful winner Joe Biden from accepting the presidency. Even to this day, right wingers still spread 2020 election lies and conspiracies to further damage our election process and democracy hoping to delegitimatize President Biden. All that did was give Putin a green light to invade Ukraine.

The few Republicans that did speak out against Criminal Donald were immediately attacked by Donnie and his rabid GOP cultists in Congress. They called them "RINOs" and called for Cheney and Kinzinger to removed from the party. Others were targeted to be primaried by the most far right wing extremist MAGA kooks possible. All because Donald Trump, a loser, who lost by over 7 million votes has hijacked the GOP and turned it into a cult to worship only him.     

The good news is these far right wing extremists that Trump has installed as his loyalist candidates will get blown out in the General Election and Donnie will go to prison for his attempted treasonous coup when the 1/6 House Committee finishes their investigation this fall. The bad news is that Trump has completely destroyed the GOP and Trumpism is still alive and well being promoted by the most radical right wingers in America and all around the world. We need to defeat Trumpism, every far right wing radical candidate, and current politician so we can return the GOP back to a normal conservative party once again.

Donnie and his radicals call true conservatives "RINOs" which is an absolute joke. Donald Trump, his Qanon cult, and his radical MAGAs are the real RINOs and are just projecting. These Trump extremists are not conservative nor were they part of the GOP for decades. They are opportunists who hijacked the GOP calling themselves "Republicans" making them the true RINOs. Trump was never a Republican until he hijacked the party and these white nationalists never even supported the GOP until Donnie took over the party. Real conservatives who are the backbone of the GOP have left the party leaving the GOP as an extremist cult.

In today's GOP, you are no longer allowed have a voice with a difference of opinion. You have to be loyal to one man, an orange faced election loser who is hated by the overwhelming majority of Americans. To show your loyalty, you have to cover up for his lies, protect him from his crimes, push his lies and conspiracies, be loyal to Putin, and do whatever Trump asks of you. Basically, like a mob boss and a cult leader demanding full obedience and loyalty.

This is what the GOP is...they are a cult and Trump is their mob boss cult leader. The GOP is sadly no longer "The Grand Old Party", it's an extremist white nationalist violent radical religious cult that shows it's loyalty to Trump and Putin. That's not a party the average American wants to be part of, and it's why the GOP continues to lose elections and will again in November as well as the foreseeable future.                                                     
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