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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4320 on: October 30, 2021, 06:42:50 AM »
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REVEALED: Trump attorney continued to pressure Pence as rioters stormed Capitol calling for his execution

Trump attorney John Eastman, the author of the so-called coup memo, emailed a top Mike Pence aide as rioters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, blaming the vice president for the insurrection and continuing to pressure him to block certification of Joe Biden's victory.

The Washington Post reports that Greg Jacob, who served as Pence's chief counsel, was under guard with the vice president in a secure area, when he described the ongoing riot as a "siege" in an email exchange with Eastman.

"The 'siege' is because YOU and your boss did not do what was necessary to allow this to be aired in a public way so that the American people can see for themselves what happened," Eastman wrote to Jacob, referring to Trump's false claims of widespread election fraud, as rioters tore through the Capitol, some calling for Pence's execution.

The Post reports that Jacob included Eastman's email in a draft opinion article that he wrote in January but chose not to publish.

Jacob wrote that by sending the email at that moment, Eastman "displayed a shocking lack of awareness of how those practical implications were playing out in real time."

"Eastman confirmed the emails in interviews with The Post but denied that he was blaming Pence for the violence," the newspaper reports. "He defended his actions, saying that Trump's team was right to exhaust 'every legal means' to challenge a result that it argued was plagued by widespread fraud and irregularities."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4321 on: October 30, 2021, 07:10:27 AM »
Nice to see some reporters in the media talk about Trump's Russian collusion. This scandal is now starting to be reported again after over 4 whole years.

We still don't know why a Trump server has mysterious connections to a Russian bank, despite a DOJ indictment

In 2016, researchers found unexplained connections between a Trump Organization server and the Russian Alfa Bank.

Special Counsel John Durham indicated a lawyer last month, accusing him of lying about the story's origins.

Several investigations have produced different explanations for the server connections, but they remain unresolved


In September, the Justice Department brought an indictment against a cybersecurity lawyer with connections to the Democratic Party, accusing him of lying to the FBI in 2016 when he peddled a story about how the Trump Organization had hidden connections with a Russian bank.

The charges came from an investigation led by John Durham, who former Attorney General Bill Barr had appointed to investigate the origins of the FBI investigation into former President Donald Trump's ties to Russia.

As president, Trump hoped that Durham would "go after" former FBI Director James Comey, Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, and others he blamed for the Mueller probe. For vague reasons, he also wanted Durham to investigate former President Barack Obama and now-President Joe Biden, his opponent in the 2020 presidential election. Barr appointed Durham as special counsel, ensuring that the investigation would continue after Biden took office.

The recent indictment gave oxygen to Trump supporters who saw the Mueller investigation as a "witch hunt," but legal experts are skeptical about the charges.

The indictment also fails to resolve one of the lingering mysteries from the 2016 election, first laid out in a Slate article: Why was there a digital connection between a Trump Organization server and a Russian bank in the first place?

Mysterious connections between 'mail1.trump-email.com' and a Russian bank

In 2016, cybersecurity researchers at Georgia Tech and the information security firms Neustar and Zetalytics made an unusual finding.

They found that between May and July 2016, a server belonging to the Trump Organization had been communicating almost exclusively with a server belonging to the medical company Spectrum Health, as well as two servers belonging to Alfa Bank, the largest financial institution in Russia.

The researchers — who The New York Times has identified as Zetalytic chief data scientist April Lorenzen and Georgia Tech computer scientists Manos Antonakakis and David Dagon — made their findings by studying DNS (Domain Name System) logs, which records device connections over the internet. The logs included a server with the name "mail1.trump-email.com," which had been registered to the Trump Organization.

The researchers also found that a Russian-made smartphone seldom seen in the US had been used on networks that had also been used by people at the White House and Trump Tower, according to the Times.

The group shared their findings with Rodney Joffe, who was an executive at Neustar, an information security firm that provided the DNS logs the researchers used. Joffe is a cybersecurity expert in his own right, having worked for the Justice Department for 12 years and received an award from the FBI in 2013 for helping crack cybercrimes.

None of the data allowed for researchers to see the actual contents of the communications between the purported Trump Organization server and the server belonging to Alfa Bank. So Joffe gave the information about the mysterious connections to his lawyer, Michael A. Sussman, who shared them with the FBI.

Three possible explanations for the mysterious connections

Durham's indictment claims Sussman misled the FBI about his clients, saying he represented not just Joffe but also Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign.

Sussman had represented the Democratic National Committee in 2016 for issues related to Russia's hacking of its servers. The Durham indictment says Sussman billed the Clinton campaign, not Joffe, for his discussions regarding the mysterious server connections.

But the indictment does not deny that those connections existed. And while the Mueller report found numerous links between Trump associates and Russian officials, there remains no definitive explanation of the server communications.

Over the past four years, cybersecurity researchers and government investigations have settled on several theories for the links:

1. The Trump Organization and Alfa Bank had secret communications and took steps to obfuscate them.

The group of researchers who uncovered the connections in the first place put forward this hypothesis.

2. The communications were initiated by Hospitality Marketing, a third-party email marketing firm used by the Trump Organization to send mass marketing emails for its hotels.

According to a Senate Intelligence Committee report, Jae Cho, the Trump Organization's corporate IT director, as well as Alfa Bank gave this explanation. But there are a few wrinkles:

- The Senate report partially redacts the section discussing its findings regarding the server links, so we don't have a full understanding of its conclusion.

- The FBI settled on a similar explanation, according to a 2016 New York Times article, but later Justice Department investigations didn't embrace the finding.

- A 500-page 2019 Justice Department Inspector General report that said the FBI found no cyber links between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank but did not put forth the marketing email explanation.

- The Mueller investigation found that Alfa Bank officials with links to the Russian government had sought connections with Trump, but the investigation's report did not address the server issue.


3. There "was likely human interaction and coordination" between people working for the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank.

This was the finding of a separate Senate analysis, commissioned by the Armed Services Committee.

- According to the analysis, the Trump Organization-registered server wasn't configured to send mass emails. It had actually been configured to receive emails, unlike most marketing servers, and had internet activity that wasn't consistent with what would be expected from marketing emails, the analysis found.

- While the report found that Choe's explanation didn't entirely stand up, it didn't put forth a comprehensive alternative explanation.


Joffe also provided the researchers' findings about the Russian-made smartphone to the CIA, according to the New York Times. It's not clear whether the agency ever investigated those findings.

https://www.businessinsider.com/alfa-bank-trump-organization-link-remains-mystery-after-durham-indictment-2021-10

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4322 on: October 30, 2021, 10:44:03 PM »
Trump accused by GOP official of building a multi-million dollar 'slush fund'

As part of a report on Donald Trump's prowess at raising money despite bans from all the major social media platforms, one Republican official complained about the millions the former president is raking in with no one knowing how he plans to use it.

According to the Post's Josh Dawsey and Michael Scherer, as of the en of July Trump's principal fundraising operation was sitting on $100 million while pulling in an estimated $1 to 2 million a week.

In contrast "the National Republican Senatorial Committee declared less than $30 million in cash at the end of September and the National Republican Congressional Committee had $65 million in cash at the same point," they report.

What is concerning to Republicans is how Trump will spend the money with little evidence that any of it will go towards promoting GOP candidates in the 2022 midterms.

According to the report, "Some Republicans have expressed concern about Trump's ambitions sucking money away from other party priorities in advance of the midterm elections. Even as he has raised the issue of electoral fraud in fundraising solicitations, he has spent little to try to prove the election was tainted."

With regard to the 2020 presidential ballot audits that Trump is demanding, one GOP official complained the former president isn't willing to pay for them himself from his cash haul -- instead expecting GOP lawmakers or GOP-dominated legislatures will pick up the tab.

"They aren't paying for audits — they want others to pay for it," the official stated on the condition of anonymity.

That same official claimed, "He is just raising money to have a big slush fund."

The report also notes that Facebook -- where Trump is banned -- is still allowing him to spend $100,000 on ads a week using the platform to raise more cash.

According to the WaPo report, "Facebook allows the ads because Trump is not posting them personally through his suspended account and the ads do not speak in Trump's 'voice,' according to a company spokeswoman," before explaining, "The money raised can be used to finance his current political operation — his staff, his rallies, his travel — until he announces another campaign. At that point, he would have to start fresh with a new account, but with a significant advantage: Advisers may rent back the updated list of donors that Save America has collected to give him a head start. And advisers say he could transfer the money to another outside group that buttresses his bid."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4323 on: October 30, 2021, 10:51:33 PM »
When Trump thugs attacked a Biden campaign bus the police did nothing to help. People could have been killed.

Updated 'Trump Train' 911 transcripts reveal Texas cops refused to send escort to Biden bus



As supporters of then-President Donald Trump surrounded and harassed a Joe Biden campaign bus on a Central Texas highway last year, San Marcos police officials and 911 dispatchers fielded multiple requests for assistance from Democratic campaigners and bus passengers who said they feared for their safety from a pack of motorists, known as a "Trump Train," allegedly driving in dangerously aggressive ways.

"San Marcos refused to help," an amended federal lawsuit over the 2020 freeway skirmish claims.

Transcribed 911 audio recordings and documents that reveal behind-the-scenes communications among law enforcement and dispatchers were included in the amended lawsuit, filed late Friday.

The transcribed recordings were filed in an attempt to show that San Marcos law enforcement leaders chose not to provide the bus with a police escort multiple times, even though police departments in other nearby cities did. In one transcribed recording, Matthew Daenzer, a San Marcos police corporal on duty the day of the incident, refused to provide an escort when recommended by another jurisdiction.

"No, we're not going to do it," Daenzer told a 911 dispatcher, according to the amended filing. "We will 'close patrol' that, but we're not going to escort a bus."

The amended filing also states that in those audio recordings, law enforcement officers "privately laughed" and "joked about the victims and their distress."

Former state Sen. Wendy Davis, who was running for Congress at the time, is among the four plaintiffs in the lawsuit. The new complaint also expands the number of people and entities being sued to include Daenzer, San Marcos assistant police chief Brandon Winkenwerder and the city itself. A spokesperson for the city did not immediately respond to a request for comment late Friday. Daenzer and Winkenwerder could not immediately be reached.

The confrontation between the Biden bus and the Trump supporters made national news after it was captured on video the last weekend of October 2020, when polls showed a tight race in Texas between the two candidates. Trump later praised his supporters' behavior, which occurred months before the former president's backers violently stormed the U.S. Capitol in an apparent attempt to stop Congress from certifying the results of his reelection loss.

The Texas highway incident featured at least one minor collision and led to Texas Democrats canceling three scheduled campaign events in Central Texas, citing "safety concerns." The original lawsuit was filed against Chase Stapp, San Marcos' director of public safety, and the San Marcos city marshal's department and claims the plaintiffs continue to suffer psychological and emotional injury from the event. They are asking for compensatory and punitive damages and for legal fees.

The lawsuit alleges that by refusing the help, law enforcement officers violated the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 because they were aware of "acts of violent political intimidation" but did not take appropriate steps to prevent the Trump supporters from intimidating eligible voters.

The provision of the Klan Act that the plaintiffs are citing in the lawsuit has laid dormant for years, but saw a resurgence under the Trump administration, according to Project Democracy lawyer John Paredes, who is representing some of the plaintiffs. It was also recently cited in a federal lawsuit against Trump after the Jan. 6 insurrection.

A second lawsuit was filed against a group of Trump supporters who allegedly harassed and followed the bus. That lawsuit claims the group of Trump supporters who surrounded the bus also violated Ku Klux Klan Act and Texas law by organizing a "politically-motivated conspiracy to disrupt the campaign and intimidate its supporters."

"We're not going to escort a bus"

The amended complaint in the lawsuit against officials said that a San Marcos crime analyst and a Biden supporter both alerted city police that the Biden bus was being followed by Trump supporters as it traveled to a scheduled campaign stop at Texas State University in San Marcos.

While Stapp, the public safety director, told the Biden supporter that San Marcos police would send backup, he did not order an escort. The complaint said he sent the information to Winkenwerder, the assistant police chief. Winkerwerder also did not order an escort or assistance, the complaint alleges. Instead, he told officers to "close patrol" the area near the university.

When the Biden bus entered San Marcos' jurisdiction, a New Braunfels 911 dispatcher attempted to get San Marcos police to take over the escort that city had provided along Interstate 35.

The 911 dispatcher in San Marcos put the New Braunfels dispatcher and the Biden campaign staffer who was pleading for assistance on hold and called Daenzer, the police supervisor on duty.

"I am so annoyed at New Braunfels for doing this to us," the dispatcher tells Daenzer, who answered the call and began laughing, according to the transcribed recording in the filing. "They have their officers escorting this Biden bus, essentially, and the Trump Train is cutting in between vehicles and driving — being aggressive and slowing them down to like 20 or 30 miles per hour. And they want you guys to respond to help."

"No, we're not going to do it. We will 'close patrol' that, but we're not going to escort a bus," Daenzer responds.

The transcript shows that the 911 dispatcher passes along information about the sense of danger expressed by the Biden campaign staffer who called for assistance as he was trying to caravan behind the bus in a white SUV.

"[T]hey're like really worked up over it and he's like breathing hard and stuff, like, 'they're being really aggressive.' Okay. Calm down," she said to Daenzer.

The transcription shows that Daenzer said the Biden bus should "drive defensively and it'll be great."

"Or leave the train," the 911 dispatcher responds. "There's an idea."

According to the transcription in the complaint, the dispatcher gets back on the phone with the Biden staffer and tells him there would be no escort.

"If you feel like you're being threatened or your life is threatened, definitely call us back," she told him.

"Are you kidding me, ma'am?" the staffer responded before saying "they've threatened my life on multiple occasions with vehicular collision" and again asking for an escort.

The dispatcher repeated that officers would be there to monitor traffic infractions, but said there would be no escort and indicated that decision was made by a high-ranking police official the lawsuit claims is Winkenwerder.

The bus "could really use your help"

According to Friday's filing, San Marcos police continued to receive 911 calls from other witnesses warning them of reckless driving along I-35, but the police department did not send an escort. The Biden campaign decided to cancel its event in San Marcos and continue north toward Austin.

Eric Cervini, one campaign volunteer and a plaintiff, had already arrived at the San Marcos event location. He alerted Cole Stapp, a deputy in the city marshal's department who was at the site, that the event was canceled and told him the bus "could really use your help," the filing stated.

When Cole Stapp called 911 dispatch to relay the message that the Biden event in San Marcos was canceled, he did not share that the bus needed help, according to another transcribed audio recording in the amended filing.

Instead, he told Cervini the people on the bus should call 911 if they needed emergency services. When Cervini informed him the bus had already called 911 and shared the bus's exact location, Cole Stapp noted the bus was near the police headquarters, the filing states.

"Despite these multiple calls for help from Plaintiffs and others, for the roughly 30 minutes it took to drive through San Marcos on the main highway that runs through it, there were no officers from San Marcos or any other police cars in sight–not on the I-35 exit or entrance ramps, nor on either side of the highway," the filing read.

Without a police escort, those on the bus allege, the Trump supporters grew more aggressive surrounding the bus and the campaign staffers' car. At one point, there was a collision between one of the Trump supporters and the white SUV driven by the Biden campaign staffer who had earlier connected to the San Marcos dispatcher. It wasn't until the bus reached Kyle around 3:46 p.m. that a police escort from that city arrived and the Trump supporters moved away from the vehicle, the lawsuit alleges.

But when the Kyle police escort departed at the Travis County line, the filing stated, the trucks of Trump supporters "resumed their threatening behavior." It wasn't until the bus was able to make it to a campaign stop in Austin that those onboard were able to get off. The Biden campaign canceled multiple events due to safety reasons.

Allegations of poking fun at the attack

According to the filing, plaintiffs argue a text message between some of the San Marcos police officers who refused to provide assistance "poked fun at the attack."

To support that claim, the lawsuit refers to a group text message among San Marcos officers, including Winkenwerder, in which an unidentified person appears to refer to Democrats who drove through town as a derogatory slang term for someone who is mentally disabled.

The following day, Chase Stapp, the public safety director, texted multiple officers about the situation, according to Friday's filing. "From what I can gather, the Biden bus never even exited I-35 thanks to the Trump escort."

Yet in the days afterward, after news of the melee spread, officers started calling the event a "debacle" in internal emails and braced for a "political fire storm" after officers realized that what happened in San Marcos "might lead to political and legal consequences," the complaint alleges.

When Daenzer wrote the report of the incident four days later, he said "due to the staffing issues, lack of time to plan, and lack of knowledge of the route, we were unable to provide an escort."

A spokesperson for the city of San Marcos told The Texas Tribune last year that police responded to requests to assist the bus, but traffic prevented officers from catching up before the bus left the city limits.

Yet Lisa Prewitt, a former San Marcos City Council member who was running for a county commissioner seat at the time, told the Tribune in the days after the skirmish that she had flagged the event to local law enforcement 24 hours in advance and mentioned safety concerns. Prewitt said she had also called Chase Stapp and alerted him the bus was 30 minutes away from the event location in San Marcos and was being followed by 50 or more vehicles with Trump flags.

Last year, Chase Stapp denied that Prewitt specifically requested a police escort or mentioned the "Trump Train" was causing issues, but did not respond to follow-up questions at the time.

"With the exception of the two phone calls to me from Ms. Prewitt, at no time did anyone from the campaign request assistance from the San Marcos Police Department in advance of the event so that the request could be evaluated and prepared for," Chase Stapp said in a statement to the Tribune last year.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-train-lawsuit/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4324 on: October 31, 2021, 03:55:51 PM »
The bottom has dropped out of the Biden administration.  An astonishing 71% in the latest poll think that the US is heading in the wrong direction.  An incredible collapse in such a brief period of time.  If the Repubs win the VA election this week, the buzzards will start circling. 


Even the leftist network NBC is acknowledging the dramatic collapse of Biden's presidency:

"The overarching message of the latest NBC News poll: Americans have lost their confidence in President Biden and their optimism for the country, at least for now."

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« Reply #4325 on: October 31, 2021, 09:23:59 PM »
The bottom has dropped out of the Biden administration.  An astonishing 71% in the latest poll think that the US is heading in the wrong direction.  An incredible collapse in such a brief period of time.  If the Repubs win the VA election this week, the buzzards will start circling. 


Even the leftist network NBC is acknowledging the dramatic collapse of Biden's presidency:

"The overarching message of the latest NBC News poll: Americans have lost their confidence in President Biden and their optimism for the country, at least for now."

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Quit watching right wing disinformation.

Our country was destroyed by Criminal Donald and President Biden is getting America back on track.

Creating the most jobs thsn any other Administration in history, defeating the pandemic, and Biden's Build Back Better plan will transform our country.   

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4326 on: October 31, 2021, 09:26:20 PM »
Trump and his lawyers have handed investigators what they need to charge them with 'seditious conspiracy': former prosecutor

Appearing on MSNBC early Sunday morning, former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner predicted that revelations about Donald Trump, attorney John Eastman and Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark have given House investigators all they need to charge the three with sedition -- and that more evidence is still to come.

Speaking with host Kendis Gibson, the attorney said written documents and recorded comments by three have built the case against them.

"You know Kendis, it is not that Vice President Pence did not have the courage or the spine to overthrow the election's result, it is that he did not have the law or the authority to overthrow the election results," he began. "There's nothing in the 12th Amendment, nothing in the Electoral College Count Act that gives a vice president the unilateral authority to just disregard or throw out the results of the popular vote, as he is presiding over the count of the Electoral College votes."

"What all of this shows us, Kendis, is that there is going to be so much evidence coming out, that will prove, I suggest, like guys like [John] Eastman and certainly Donald Trump, and Jeffrey Clark -- who was assisting Trump in his efforts to overturn the election results -- they are going to build the case for this being a criminal conspiracy, indeed, a seditious conspiracy."

"I think that the select committee will have the evidence that it needs to really make some progress in its investigation," he added.

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« Reply #4327 on: October 31, 2021, 09:29:18 PM »
Georgia's Raffensperger was unaware lawyers were recording Trump's phone call demanding he find more votes



Appearing on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) revealed that he had no idea his infamous phone call with former president Donald Trump was being recorded by attorneys working for the state.

Speaking with host Chuck Todd, the Republican state official said the only reason the audio of the phone call was released was that Trump had lied about it.

Then he made an admission that startled host Todd.

"At the time of our conversation I didn't know we were being recorded until the next morning that tweet comes out there," Raffensperger confessed.

That led host Todd to press, "Who did the recording?"

"There was someone -- because we had lawsuits going on, and actually were sued by the Trump campaign, I understood there would be lawyers there and they treated it like a deposition. I guess our office felt it should be treated that way also so that everything should be factually recorded and people couldn't spin it up later,' he revealed.

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