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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #344 on: August 15, 2020, 02:22:54 AM »
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Mr O'Meara doesn't know how to post images. Another thing he has in common with Mr Doyle!
My bad.
Hughes frame.
i notice that's all you've picked up on. Shied away from the point being made haven't you.
What a shock.
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #344 on: August 15, 2020, 02:22:54 AM »


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #345 on: August 15, 2020, 03:39:38 AM »
My bad.
Hughes frame.
i notice that's all you've picked up on. Shied away from the point being made haven't you.
What a shock.

I see images in your post
You have nothing to apologize for.

I use postimages.org as well.


1) Upload your image


2) Choose Direct Link'.. you'll get rid of the extraneous code

3) Use the image function here


4) Result
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Offline James Hackerott

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #346 on: August 15, 2020, 06:17:54 AM »
Question for Mr James Hackerott!

Mr Hackerott, in this--------------your first sketch based on your viewing of Prayer Man in the Darnell Film at the Sixth Floor Museum---------------you seem to have written the letters 'BL':



Do these stand for 'Billy Lovelady'?

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Yes, I believe that is Billy Lovelady at that position. I think that neither Lovelady, or Shelly, are walking down the Elm extension in the Mal Couch clips.
 
« Last Edit: August 15, 2020, 09:58:09 PM by James Hackerott »

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #347 on: August 15, 2020, 07:13:00 AM »
I thought you were saying you doubted the guy who is supposed to be Shelley, stood just behind Lovelady, wasn't Shelley at all.

I don’t know why you would think I said that.

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I've always thought this guy seems a bit rounder than the very angular Shelley but everyone seems to agree that's who he is.

You mean the chin and necktie? For what reasons does “everybody” think this must be Shelley?

I’m not sure how that helps us locate Stanton anyway.

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"Half of the entryway is blocked by secret service agents in the foreground."

Firstly, it made no difference to the point I was making,

Sure it does, because you’re making the Doyle-esque argument that if you can’t positively identify Stanton on the right side of the entryway in Altgens, then she must be prayer-blob.

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Look at the frame holding the glass of the front entrance. On the right-hand side is a strut that runs from top to bottom. If you look at the top picture with people on the steps you can see this strut running down through Molina's arm. A large section of the east wall is visible. IMO 8)

I’m not sure who you are assuming Molina is either, but I genuinely don’t know where you are seeing the east wall in Altgens.

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"I thought you placed Shelley out on the sidewalk."

At the time of the shooting?
Wrong

No, at the time of the Darnell clip.  You don’t see prayer-blob in Altgens. So what difference does it make if Stanton was “with” Shelley earlier? If Shelley moved then so could prayer-blob, and so could Stanton.

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"No, read it again.  You are as bad as Doyle."

I did read it again. Lovelady states that at the time the motorcade passed he was "standing on the top step to the far right against the wall of the entranceway"

Yes, but he didn’t say on what side of him Stanton was. Especially not that she was behind him and even further to the right.

And since Sanders places herself on the east side with Stanton also next to her, that rules out the prayer-blob spot.
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #348 on: August 15, 2020, 11:02:15 AM »
Yes, I believe that is Billy Lovelady at that position. I think that neither Lovelady, or Shelly, are walking down the Elm extension in the Mel Couch clips.

Many thanks, Mr Hackerott---------and I agree with you!  Thumb1:

Was there greater detail in the 6FM version of Darnell that strengthened your belief that that this is indeed Mr Lovelady?


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #349 on: August 15, 2020, 11:10:01 AM »
My bad.
Hughes frame.

Nope, still don't see any image.

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i notice that's all you've picked up on. Shied away from the point being made haven't you.
What a shock.
 8)

The suddenness with which you turned into an overt Doyle tribute act is intriguing, Mr O'Meara.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #350 on: August 15, 2020, 06:50:57 PM »
Yes, I believe that is Billy Lovelady at that position. I think that neither Lovelady, or Shelly, are walking down the Elm extension in the Mel Couch clips.

So Lovelady was a burn victim with a giant head

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Offline James Hackerott

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #351 on: August 15, 2020, 10:02:34 PM »
Many thanks, Mr Hackerott---------and I agree with you!  Thumb1:

Was there greater detail in the 6FM version of Darnell that strengthened your belief that that this is indeed Mr Lovelady?



I doubt the increased clarity would make the ID a 100% certainty. But that was never on my mind while making the sketches. The ID as Lovelady was speculated by others, I believe.