Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

[Alan Ford]

It seems clear Baker was simply mistaken about which floor the encounter happened on. The fact he's not sure if it was three or four says it all. As we can see it didn't happen on three or four.
Yet another problem for Mr Ford and his fake Hoax   

Another contrived 'problem', lol.

Here's the area:



Kindly explain to us---------having finally mastered the difference between the UP and the DOWN stairs --------how the event described as follows in Officer Baker's 11/22 affidavit could not have happened here:

"As we reached the (...) floor I saw a man walking away from the stairway. I called to the man and he turned around and came back toward me."

 

[Dan O'meara]

Another contrived 'problem', lol.

Here's the area:



Kindly explain to us---------having finally mastered the difference between the UP and the DOWN stairs --------how the event described as follows in Officer Baker's 11/22 affidavit could not have happened here:

"As we reached the (...) floor I saw a man walking away from the stairway. I called to the man and he turned around and came back toward me."

 

Truly and Baker come up the stairs to the left (running north to south). At the top of the stairs there is a door just to the left.
They pass through this door into a very small space and have to turn left. At this point the stairs going up are about 12 ft in front of them to the left. At this point they can see anyone near the stairs. It takes about three large steps to find themselves with the stairs going up to their left and a short "hall" to the elevators to their right. This "hall" is about 13 ft long and can be covered in three large strides.
When Baker reaches this point and sees a man walking away from him in this tiny space he could almost reach out and grab him. He most certainly wouldn't need to shout to call him back as they are stood in virtually the same space. Baker could reach the man in one large stride so the idea of Baker calling out to a man walking away from the stairs seems a bit silly.
The big problem is Truly who is running ahead of Baker. Truly would need to push this man out of the way to continue upstairs but doesn't seem to have noticed him at all.
The space is far too small for the encounter to have taken place. This is obvious.

[Alan Ford]

Truly and Baker come up the stairs to the left (running north to south). At the top of the stairs there is a door just to the left.
They pass through this door into a very small space and have to turn left. At this point the stairs going up are about 12 ft in front of them to the left. At this point they can see anyone near the stairs.

How do you know Officer Baker can't have seen anyone at a point before this?

It takes about three large steps to find themselves with the stairs going up to their left and a short "hall" to the elevators to their right. This "hall" is about 13 ft long and can be covered in three large strides.
When Baker reaches this point and sees a man walking away from him

Again-----------how do you know Officer Baker can't have seen someone before he reaches this point?

in this tiny space he could almost reach out and grab him. He most certainly wouldn't need to shout to call him back as they are stood in virtually the same space. Baker could reach the man in one large stride so the idea of Baker calling out to a man walking away from the stairs seems a bit silly.
The big problem is Truly who is running ahead of Baker.

Where in Officer Baker's affidavit does it say the building manager is ahead of him as they take the stairs?

[Walt Cakebread]

How do you know Officer Baker can't have seen anyone at a point before this?

Again-----------how do you know Officer Baker can't have seen someone before he reaches this point?

Where in Officer Baker's affidavit does it say the building manager is ahead of him as they take the stairs?

After viewing the diagram of the third floor it's very clear that Baker could NOT have been referring to the third floor as the place where he saw the dark haired, 165 pound man, who was wearing a light brown jacket.   It appears that there was a divided ( split) swinging door which would have prevented Baker from seeing the area on the south side of the elevators. 

[Walt Cakebread]

Nope--------that's just the icon for a normal door.

No ....That icon indicates a spilt swinging door ,(a saloon type door)  The LAV had a common single door....Notice the symbol  for that door.

[Walt Cakebread]

~Sigh~

Nope--------just a normal door icon. Cf the icons for the not-at-all-saloon-type doors leading off the second floor landing to the lunchroom:

This is NOT the diagram that shows the door in the hall was a spilt type swinging door......



The original diagram indicates that the door was a spilt "saloon door"......  And it doesn't indicate any wall in which a single door was installed

[Alan Ford]

NOTE TO MR CAKEBREAD: I have deleted my most recent posts, as they were founded on a misunderstanding of the door(s) you meant!

Now! Why on earth does seeing south of the elevators have to be the only way Officer Baker could have seen the man "walking away from the stairway"?

[Walt Cakebread]

NOTE TO MR CAKEBREAD: I have deleted my most recent posts, as they were founded on a misunderstanding of the door(s) you meant!

Now! Why on earth does seeing south of the elevators have to be the only way Officer Baker could have seen the man "walking away from the stairway"?

Are you serious?    Baker said that as he reached the stairway exit on either the third or fourth floor he saw a man walking away from the stairs and he called out to the man..."Come Here"...  Do you think he would have called out to the dark haired 165 pound man if that man was about six feet away from him?    Or possibly you believe that Baker had X-ray vision and could see right through the wall that block the line of sight between the top of the stairs and the south side of the elevators.

PS..... Wasn't the gate for the west elevator on the west side of the rectangle?