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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #144 on: May 11, 2020, 07:46:46 PM »
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  he wore that plaid shirt that day!
Without question...
It is likely that he [at sometime] took that plaid shirt off upstairs probably because it was getting uncomfortably warm in the stuffy warehouse around that time. 
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Weather History for Dallas, TX Nov 22, 1963
Max temp 71.1 F
 https://www.almanac.com/weather/history/TX/Dallas/1963-11-22#

There you go. I had shirts like that.
Look--- if that isn't Lovelady then it's his twin brother.
 

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #145 on: May 11, 2020, 07:53:43 PM »
Without question...
It is likely that he [at sometime] took that plaid shirt off upstairs probably because it was getting uncomfortably warm in the stuffy warehouse around that time.   
There you go. I had shirts like that.
Look--- if that isn't Lovelady then it's his twin brother.
Jerry, It's time to visit your optometrist  ...... 

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #146 on: May 11, 2020, 08:44:21 PM »
Jerry, It's time to visit your optometrist  ......
Probably too late for that... but then think about all those who were so blind as to think that striped shirt was the one that BNL wore that day?
If there is another name for the T shirt man I would certainly like to see it posted :-\

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #147 on: May 11, 2020, 11:42:10 PM »
Probably too late for that... but then think about all those who were so blind as to think that striped shirt was the one that BNL wore that day?
If there is another name for the T shirt man I would certainly like to see it posted :-\

Well hell since nobody is being serious, I'd suggest the guy is Elvis Presley.....

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #148 on: May 12, 2020, 12:44:25 AM »
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Lovelady, as will be seen, was very reluctant to have anyone photograph him. Had Altgens been using color film that day, there might be no controversy concerning the identity of the man in the doorway, for the color of the shirt (along with the pattern) might have established his identity beyond doubt.
...Lovelady's Shirt--The FBI showed a decided reluctance to interview James Altgens even though he took some crucial pictures and was probably the closest spectator to the President when he was hit. When the controversy produced by the Altgens photograph forced the FBI to photograph Billy Lovelady to establish that he was the man-in-the-doorway, and that it was not Oswald, they called Lovelady for a photo session. The pictures they took are shown here. Since the whole purpose was to prove that it was Lovelady, and since the man-in-the-doorway was obviously wearing a long sleeve shirt, one may wonder why the FBI photographed Lovelady in a short sleeve one. There are three different versions of why the FBI photographed Billy Lovelady in a short sleeve shirt: (1) that he had not been told to wear the shirt he had on at the time, (2) that the FBI told him not to bother wearing the shirt he had on at the time, and (3) that Lovelady told the FBI he had been wearing the short sleeve shirt. The report issued by the House Select Committee on Assassinations states: Lovelady was reported to have been wearing a short sleeved red and white, vertically striped shirt. Lovelady later explained that when he was interviewed and photographed by the FBI, he had not been told to wear the same shirt he had worn on the day of the assassination and that, in fact, he had been wearing a long-sleeved, plaid shirt when he was standing in the Texas School Book Depository doorway. (HSCA, Vol. VI, p. 287) Are we to believe that J. Edgar Hoover's vaunted FBI didn't think it important to ask Lovelady to be photographed in the same shirt that he was wearing at the time? In his book The Killing of a President, Robert Groden states (p. 187): When the FBI called Lovelady to come down and be photographed, they told him not to bother to wear the same shirt. When they released the photograph, they stated that it was the same shirt, creating the controversy over whether it was Oswald or Lovelady in the Depository doorway. Neglecting to tell Lovelady to wear the same shirt is bad enough, but to tell him not to bother  wearing it is simply incomprehensible. Then they not only photographed him in the wrong shirt, but issued a report stating that it was the right one. Can this really be true? Is it possible that any agent of the FBI could be so utterly inept and incompetent as to display such a cavalier attitude? If so, it puts the FBI in the same league with the Dallas Police Department which failed to take a transcript of Oswald's 12 hours of interrogation. There is no doubt that Lovelady told the FBI that he was wearing the short sleeve shirt as it is noted in several FBI reports. The photos are labeled "Composite photograph of Mr. Billy Nolan Lovelady consisting of three photographs taken by an agent of our Dallas, Texas Office on February 29, 1964." (Photographic Whitewash, p. 69) On the same date as the photo session, and FBI report states that Lovelady told them he was wearing this shirt:

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/T%20Disk/Third-Fourth%20Decade%20The/Item%2005.pdf
The FBI connived back then just as they have connived in recent times.. so why do people think they are so [I guess the word is] --virtuous?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #149 on: May 12, 2020, 01:22:01 AM »
Does anyone know when Jack Daugherty died? or if by some small chance he is still alive?

Dougherty was 40 in 1964 which would make him 97 if still alive, that would be younger than Jim Leavelle when he died.

He died in 1994.


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« Reply #150 on: May 12, 2020, 02:30:29 AM »
Good find.

Sad to find out all these people you become so familiar with through reading their testimonies have died, some long ago.

Looks like he had no children. Any idea what he died from? Guessing that kind of info not easy to find.

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Who is this?
« Reply #151 on: May 12, 2020, 08:02:31 AM »
Probably too late for that... but then think about all those who were so blind as to think that striped shirt was the one that BNL wore that day?

You mean the FBI?