The Oswald Wallet Paradox

[Izraul Hidashi]

Not sure what are you babbling about.  It is CTers that claim Oswald's wallet was found at the Tippit scene.  I don't believe Oswald's wallet was found at the scene for the reasons that I noted.  It would be great evidence of Oswald's guilt.  No reason for the DPD to suppress it and every reason to confirm it was found if that is what had happened.   There is a perfectly plausible narrative for Oswald's wallet being left there.  He is stopped by a cop and asked for his ID.  Where is the ID kept?  In his wallet!  He pulls his ID out and gives it to the cop.  The cop is not satisfied and starts to get out of his car.  Oswald thinks his goose is cooked and drops the wallet while pulling his gun.  He flees the scene.  Didn't happen but there is a plausible narrative for it to be there.  What makes no sense whatsoever is the bizarre claim made by some CTers that the DPD found Oswald's wallet at the scene, but these same folks who they believe are otherwise involved in framing Oswald then for some inexplicable reason suppress the best possible evidence to link Oswald to this crime.

What are you babbling about?

Quote: "Dallas Police Captain Westbrook found Oswald's brown wallet next to where Tippit had fallen and showed it to FBI Agent Barrett."

So the Dallas Captain was lying? What about what FBI agent Barrett said?

Barrett stated that "according to a witness, the gunman handed something through the open passenger-side window to Tippit inside the car. Somebody told me that they saw him reach in and hand something to Tippit through the window. I don't know who said it, and can't verify it, but it would follow that's how the wallet got there. And, the wallet was there. There's no getting around that. Westbrook had the wallet in his hand and asked me If I know who these people were. I don't think Westbrook would have been asking me questions about something unrelated to the situation and he had the wallet with those names in it. Later, I remember seeing photographs of the contents of the wallet: in which those two names were in it"

So tell me again how silly that is... because it is indeed silly. Let's take it a step further, just to reiterate.

"Photographer Ron Reiland, of WFAA-TV, was the only newsman at the Tippit scene who shot a motion sequence. Reiland exposed approximately two minutes of silent footage that covered the search for Tippit's killer, and the arrest of Oswald. The initial footage shot at Tenth and Patton correlates to police returning to the Tippit shooting scene following the investigation of a suspect at the Jefferson Branch Library.

The opening sequence shows police gathered around Tippit's squad car questioning eyewitness Helen Markham. The officers depicted include Patrolman Joe M. Poe and Leonard E. Jez, Reserve Sergeant Kenneth Croy, and Sergeant Calvin 'Bud' Owens. Within seconds, crime scene search Officer W.E. 'Pete' Barnes and Detective Paul Bentley arrive at the scene. The arrival of Barnes and Bentley pins the time frame of these sequences to 1:42 pm--about eight minutes before Oswald's arrest at the Texas Theater....

"Sergeant 'Bud' Owens is seen holding Tippit's service revolver in his left hand and a man's leather wallet In his right.
Owens shows the wallet to Captain George Doughty, who is standing to his left. As Owens hold the wallet open, Doughty runs his finger along one of the celluloid photo slips which usually hold photographs or identification cards. As Doughty studies the item in the plastic sleeve, a third person approaches from Doughty's left.

Doughty pulls his hand back and a plain clothesman reaches into the frame. Owens holds the wallet out toward the third man. Here, the tantalizing footage ends. Barrett, who was unaware of the existence of the footage at the time of our initial interview, confirmed that he spoke to Westbrook about the wallet near the front of Tippit's patrol car--where news film shows the men examining the wallet.

Barrett said, 'It hadn't been very long when Westbrook looked up and saw me and called me over. He had this wallet in his hand. I presumed that they had found it on or near Tippit.' Westbrook asked me, 'Do you know who Lee Harvey Oswald is?' And, 'Do you know who Alek Hidell is?' And I said, 'No, I never heard of them.'"

But go on, tell us about your expertise again. How you know all the facts, because it really is fascinating. :/

So it's your beliefs v. facts. Which is more relevant? I really don't understand why people with limited knowledge of certain things always have to jump in and open their mouths in a matter of fact way. I'm sure you've held your beliefs for a lot longer than it would take for you to simply do some research.

You could have googled it to learn the truth in all of 10 minutes. How many years have you been holding on to that belief? I'm not sure what, or who, a "CTer" is, but they seem to know a lot more about this subject than you do. Maybe it's time to check your other beliefs as well, so we can all have a real conversation based on facts, not beliefs.

Just saying. It would be more beneficial than always trying to hate on people who know more than you. Clearly the finding of a wallet with Oswald's photo and name is based on fact. And now that you know the truth about it, I'd be happy to hear what your new opinion is. You don't think anyone was trying to frame Oswald, but clearly someone was.

[Jerry Freeman]

Not sure what are you babbling about.

I thought babble was all you understood.   

It is CTers that claim Oswald's wallet was found at the Tippit scene.

You state that as if it is a universal belief...it isn't.

It would be great evidence of Oswald's guilt.

Along with the jacket huh?

What are you babbling about? You could have googled it to learn the truth

He won't do that but I did....

Yet the Dallas authorities never wrote a report about any wallet found at the Tippit murder scene. Perhaps that was oversight. Perhaps not. FBI Man: Dallas cop lied. ..After 50 years, an FBI agent on the scene believes that the Dallas officer who brought Oswald to the police station is lying about finding the wallet in Oswald’s possession.

https://jfkfacts.org/oswalds-wallet-planted-at-the-tippit-crime-scene/

[Izraul Hidashi]

I thought babble was all you understood.    You state that as if it is a universal belief...it isn't.  Along with the jacket huh?
He won't do that but I did....https://jfkfacts.org/oswalds-wallet-planted-at-the-tippit-crime-scene/

Now you see... that's an interesting fact. And that's exactly the point I'm trying to get at. What you found claims an FBI Man said that. But which FBI man on the scene? Because what I found has names. And the man who stated that there was no doubt a wallet found on the scene was an FBI agent. And the Captain said he did. What I found gives a pretty detailed account and includes names. And a news man supposedly filmed them looking at a wallet. I wonder if we can find that video clip.

Now we know if someone was trying to frame Oswald, there would be conflicting statements. And there are.

The FBI agent on the scene claimed there was 2 names in that wallet. Oswald and Hidell. And we know the FBI claimed Oswald purchased that shitty rifle under the name Hidell. So I'm inclined to think that there was a wallet found on the scene, and it was planted. But since it clashes with the arresting officers report, the FBI tried to save face. Obviously someone tried to pin that cops murder on Oswald. Because like you said, nobody is just going to throw their wallet down.

Here's another theory. A witnessed claimed she saw the gunman hand something to officer Tippit. Maybe that was the wallet. Maybe the guy who handed it to him did so for that very specific reason. To frame Oswald. And the police decided not to report it officially because it proves conspiracy. You gotta take into account that if they're trying to pin something on someone, there's going to be conflicting stories, lies and retractions.

[Richard Smith]

How is that any different from claiming Oswald purchased the rifle under a fake name? Why would Oswald go through the whole act of purchasing a rifle to conceal his identity, only to leave it at the scene with his finger prints everywhere? That's pure idiocy. Who in the heck is going to tip toe around and take dubious caution to purchase a gun. There was no need for that back then. And who would take their rifle to work to kill a president? If you didn't wanna get caught, why would you leave all kinds of evidence that you know will lead back to you? What was the point of even leaving if he know they would trace it back to him?

Which part of that makes sense to you?

And furthermore, Oswald was right handed. To make those shots would require leaning out of the window. Everyone thinks that it was a straight shot. Bull crap. Angles matter. Clearly Oswald was being framed.

It only makes sense if you know what you are talking about including the sequence of events.  That apparently excludes you.  When Oswald bought the rifle he did not know he would be leaving it any crime scene to be discovered.  He didn't even know JFK would be coming to Dallas when he purchased his rifle.  He bought the rifle with the intent to shoot Gen. Walker and then hide it.  You are actually trying to argue that the use of an alias to buy a rifle lends itself to his innocence?  Wow.  Why do you think he used an alias to buy it? 

[John Iacoletti]

A witnessed claimed she saw the gunman hand something to officer Tippit.

Which witness was that?

[John Iacoletti]

When Oswald bought the rifle

LOL

He bought the rifle with the intent to shoot Gen. Walker and then hide it. 

“Richard” is in mindreading mode again.

[Izraul Hidashi]

Which witness was that?

I'm starting to wonder if people actually read things.  lol   "eyewitness Helen Markham."