The timing, accuracy and wounds SCREAMS Oswald with his FMJ bolt action rifle

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Offline Gary Craig

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*It is perhaps worth noting that out of the seven Commission members, the three who had problems with the single-bullet theory were among the least faithful in attending Commission hearings during which testimony was given, two of them the worst. Cooper missed 44 out of the 94 hearings, the fourth worst attendance record; Boggs missed 74 hearings, the second worst. Living up to Benjamin Franklin?s adage that an empty drum sounds the loudest, Russell, who should have been the quietest, was the loudest dissenter. Shockingly irresponsible, Russell only attended 6 out of the 94 hearings, having more important things to do at the time, namely, being the leader in the Senate of the South?s opposition to the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. In fairness to Russell, he did write a letter to Johnson on February 24, 1964, saying that because of his ?legislative duties,? he did not have enough time to serve on the Commission, but Warren ignored the letter, and Russell continued to serve. (Fite, Richard B. Russell, pp. 406, 416, 421) Chief Justice Warren, who was busier and had more responsibilities outside the Commission than anyone else on the Commission, had the best attendance record, commendably attending all or a portion of all 94 hearings. Representative Gerald Ford had the next best attendance record, showing up at 70 of the 94 hearings. Dulles attended 60, and McCloy 35
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RUSSELL: No, no, They're trying to prove that the same bullett that hit Kennedy first was the one that hit Connally, went through him and through his hand, his bone and into his leg... I couldn't hear all the evidence and cross-examine all of 'em. But I did read the record...I was the only fellow there that...suggested any change whatever in what the staff got up. This staff business always scares me. I like to put my own views down. But we got you a pretty good report.

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RUSSELL: No, no, They're trying to prove that the same bullett that hit Kennedy first was the one that hit Connally, went through him and through his hand, his bone and into his leg... I couldn't hear all the evidence and cross-examine all of 'em. But I did read the record...I was the only fellow there that...suggested any change whatever in what the staff got up. This staff business always scares me. I like to put my own views down. But we got you a pretty good report.


Russell was talking to his Boss, so of course after Russell admitted he had an extremely poor attendance record he was going to say he read the record! But seriously this is like a Uni student thinking that he can get a pass by just reading the record and thinks that he knows it all but it's a lot harder than that, having situations explained, questions answered and comprehending difficult concepts is a lot easier to learn in a practical setting compared to figuratively  cramming unseen concepts the night before.



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Offline Bob Prudhomme

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Hi Bob.....I thought that you would have had a little fun with Mr Mytton's  referring to the rifle as a Full Metal Jacket rifle.

"Oswald with his FMJ bolt action rifle"...John Mytton....

I never even saw that! LOL! He says so many stupid things, I have a tendency to gloss over his ramblings and rantings at times.

I wonder what an FMJ bolt action rifle looks like.

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Russell was talking to his Boss, so of course after Russell admitted he had an extremely poor attendance record he was going to say he read the record! But seriously this is like a Uni student thinking that he can get a pass by just reading the record and thinks that he knows it all but it's a lot harder than that, having situations explained, questions answered and comprehending difficult concepts is a lot easier to learn in a practical setting compared to figuratively  cramming unseen concepts the night before.
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You're comparing a university student to Russell? Geez you're thick.

"having situations explained, questions answered and comprehending difficult concepts is a lot easier to learn"

You don't think Russell's congressional staff or the paid legal and secretarial staff of the WC 

could have answered any questions he had?

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https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1068#relPageId=40

Whitewash: The Report on the Warren Report
Current Section: Chapter 4. The Marksman


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Russell was talking to his Boss, so of course after Russell admitted he had an extremely poor attendance record he was going to say he read the record!

Which goes to show that LNers revert to the "he was lying" argument just as much as CTers.

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IMO...The first BOOM that was heard was a firecracker...it was a signal to he killers to open fire.....because the signaler with the firecracker had received the thumbs up from the man who would have the power to could cover it all up..... once That SOB Kennedy was dead.




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The first BOOM that was heard was a firecracker...it was a signal to he killers to open fire....

Huh?, didn't you say that Umbrella Man was supposed to be the signal?



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Online Jerry Organ

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The Umbrella Man just being there to link Kennedy's "appeasement" with Moscow to his father's admiration for Germany though an object symbolic of Chamberlain, in the run-up to a Presidential election in which Kennedy's opponent was likely to be a right-winger loon encouring Trump Chumps and at a time when the bestselling book was the anti-Kennedy "JFK: Man or Myth" ...

... and said Umbrella protester lived in arch-right-wing Dallas ...

... just made no sense.

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I agree with your post.

Oswald most likely was aiming at the head the whole time. He was trying to kill, not wound. At more than 200 yards, with the entire torso visible as well as the head, I can see him electing a center torso shot. But not for shots under 100 yards.

In addition, with the angular speeds of about:


1st shot:   z153   3.70 degrees per second     miss by 60+ inches
2nd shot:   z222   1.80 degrees per second     miss by  8  inches
3rd shot:   z312   0.55 degrees per second     miss by  2  inches


It makes sense Oswald would get more accurate with each shot. The shots were all under 100 yards and with the angular speed of the target continuously dropping as the limousine got further down Elm Street, we should expect the shots to get more accurate.

All and all, I think this match one what one might expect of a shooter who was:

** several years past his Marine training (I would guess not such a big deal for
     shots under 100 yards shots)

** Not real familiar with his rifle (a possible problem, but he did get in 15, 35, 55, etc. practice shots)

** Several months away from practicing shots with that rifle

** Not trained at hitting moving targets, so perhaps not aware he should wait until the
     limousine is further down the street before trying the first shot.

But on the other hand:

** Received Marine training, using iron sights, at targets 200, 300 and 500 yards away.


I find the shooting by Oswald pretty plausible.



Certainly, I would expect a conspiracy to employ shooters who would hit with the first shot. Miss with other shots if they liked, just to make it look like Oswald. But don?t miss with the first and risk Kennedy ducking down or Jackie pulling him down.





The last sentence in the final paragraph is logical.



Thanks. I?ll try working on the rest of the post.

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Considering that the head shot was the last shot leads to only one logical conclusion, that whoever was shooting had finally accomplished his mission.
Well there you have it ..."whoever"-- Got their signal from TUM...Here he comes-get ready to fire.



People running up the knoll after that shot....




 

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