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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2020, 10:44:54 PM »
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The question was: Why did LHO go to New Orleans? Whether or not Nixon was actually there isn’t relevant to the question. Marina apparently believed what she said LHO told her. And this was a contributing factor in the decision to go to New Orleans.
Guess again ::)

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« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2020, 10:50:15 PM »
Quote from: Richard Smith on Today at 07:52:59 AM
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Here's another hint:  General Walker.
Two weeks later? That’s some serious fleeing!
Another fast getaway by bus?  :D These guys are hilarious!

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« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2020, 10:52:51 PM »
Oswald confessed to his own wife on the very night of the Walker attempt! 
That's probably the 157th time that Smith has posted that same line. He must have been there in his time machine.

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« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2020, 10:56:14 PM »
LBJ, the vice president, was in Dallas in the exact time frame that Marina reported this incident occurred.  She had never heard of LBJ, though, and only knew of Nixon as the VP.  As a result, she mixed the two up in her mind when equating a threat against the VP as a threat made against Nixon (who she thought of as the VP).
Yeah...a crazy mixed up chick :-\ How about Oswald went to NOLA just to get away from her? Nah!

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« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2020, 11:25:01 PM »
It's laughable that anyone - even a dishonest contrarian - would suggest that someone other than Oswald wrote the note.  Who else here would: 1) write a note in Russian; 2) ask that his military papers be retained; 3) instruct someone on what to do in the event of their arrest or death; 4) had a PO box.  Do you think Ruth Paine had military records and anticipated being arrested or killed?  That eliminates her.  Same for Marina.  So who else in that household does that leave that matches the relevant criteria relating to the substance of this note and the circumstances under which it was written?  No honest person would suggest there is a scintilla of doubt that LHO wrote the note.  Either he did or it is a complete fabrication to implicate him in the Walker shooting.  There is no possibility this note was written by anyone else for any other purpose who then somehow stuck it in a book belonging to the Oswalds in the Paine house.  Those are the only reasonable choices.  And the purpose of such a note, as confirmed by Marina, was in relation to the Walker situation.  No person is going to leave a note saying "Don't wait up. I'm off to murder Gen. Walker.  Lee Harvey Oswald."  That is what is being suggested.  And, of course, if Oswald had left such a detailed note implicating himself, CTers would allege handwriting is not a science etc.  An endless loop of lunacy.

Interesting that the little prick didn't leave his ring behind on his fascist-hunter night out. Or a note on his personal TGIF big-game hunting-spree daytrip in Dealey & environs.
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« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2020, 05:04:28 AM »
Interesting that the little prick didn't leave his ring behind on his fascist-hunter night out. Or a note on his personal TGIF big-game hunting-spree daytrip in Dealey & environs.
If we took what you really know about the assassination and put it in a thimble...it would roll around like a B-B in a boxcar.
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Oswald then leaves for New Orleans on April 24.  It seems pretty clear he is putting distance between himself and the Walker investigation.
Oswald departs for NO on the 24th  two days later reports to the Crescent City's employment office. An FBI informant ultimately takes this case. Oswald LIES and tells them he is staying with Aunt Lillian. Oswald disappears for a week and then reports back to the office. Within the following week the FBI knows Oswald is there in NO. Oswald goes up and sees Guy Banister just as if he knew him already [according to Ms Roberts Banister's secretary and girlfriend]

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« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2020, 01:52:20 PM »
That's probably the 157th time that Smith has posted that same line. He must have been there in his time machine.

Why would that require a time machine?  It is part of the record.  I realize that you find it difficult to distinguish fact from fantasy but all this requires is reading her testimony.   That informs us that Oswald confessed to Marina that he fired the shot at Walker.  He did so on that night when the only way he could have known about it was to be the shooter.  In addition, there is evidence to support his involvement such as a photo of Walker's home and note instructing Marina on what to do if he was arrested or killed.  If I have to repeat it, it is because folks like yourself make the same debased claims over and over again.  It is all the more humorous that you question the historical record as supported by actual evidence while peddling an outlandish, long debunked, completely baseless Jim Garrison/Oliver Stone fantasy.  You not only need a time machine for that one but a magic wand.

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« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2020, 02:56:04 PM »
It's astounding that anyone would argue that a note written in Russian, found in a book belonging to the Oswalds that references military papers, a PO box, a baby, and paying rent could have been written by someone other than a member of the Oswald household.  A great example of the attempted application of the impossible standard of proof to conjure up fake doubt.  Who could this mystery person have been who left such a note in a book belonging to the Oswalds?  We are left to ponder as no explanation is forthcoming.  For example, how many folks in Texas could write a note in Russian?  How many of those had access to this book in the Oswald household?  How many also had a baby, PO box, paid rent and served in the military?  How many of these anticipated being arrested or killed?  How and why would this fantasy person leave such a note in a book belonging to the Oswalds?  It is ludicrous.  Only Oswald matches the criteria and circumstances relating to the note.  It didn't float down from the heavens into that book.  No explanation - much less any evidence - has been provided to support the notion that anyone else matches the relevant criteria contained in the note and how/why it would end up in a book in the possession of the Oswalds.  It just could be so because Dishonest John doesn't like the implications.  Entertaining what is merely possible (even if wildly improbable and completely baseless) over what the facts and circumstances demonstrate is nearly certain.  This is just the classic rabbit hole nonsense designed to go round and round.  Nothing could ever be "proven" using that standard which is the entire purpose.  Imagine suggesting that no logical inference can ever be drawn from such a note.  And arguing it would need to be dated, signed, and reference the intent to murder Walker to be evidence relating to that crime.  Wow.   And, of course, if Oswald had left such a note our resident contrarian would argue that handwriting is not a science etc.  And on and on into eternity.
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