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Offline John Mytton

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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2019, 09:26:51 AM »
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One full page of silliness and self-indulgence. What a credit to the forum.

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.



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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
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Offline Mark A. Oblazney

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2019, 10:26:27 AM »
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.



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Yeah....... put the backyard photo of this sick f**k holding the murder weapon and a copy of the militant alongside the one with his 'little salute', and you've got two-thirds of a holy tryptich. maybe the third one would be him lying in the gurney, trying(?) to give his little stigmatic sign a final go.....  sigh+.  had he lived, ozz probably would've been 'epsteined'. 

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2019, 11:18:30 AM »
Yeah....... put the backyard photo of this sick f**k holding the murder weapon and a copy of the militant alongside the one with his 'little salute', and you've got two-thirds of a holy tryptich. maybe the third one would be him lying in the gurney, trying(?) to give his little stigmatic sign a final go.....  sigh+.  had he lived, ozz probably would've been 'epsteined'.

Sorry to tell you this, Mark, but I'm afraid he was Epsteined.

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2019, 11:21:13 AM »
Yeah....... put the backyard photo of this sick f**k holding the murder weapon and a copy of the militant alongside the one with his 'little salute', and you've got two-thirds of a holy tryptich. maybe the third one would be him lying in the gurney, trying(?) to give his little stigmatic sign a final go.....  sigh+.  had he lived, ozz probably would've been 'epsteined'.

Mark, they "din't" play it straight with us? I am shocked, flumoxed. Say it ain't so!


VS Image published in 1969, by Jesse Curry:

Also published in former DPD Chief Curry's 1969 book.:

and:


And the legacy / epitaph of the DPD & the WC:

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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/cheek.htm
...Mr. GRIFFIN. When did the police officer whose name might have been Olson, when did he rent from you?
Mrs. CHEEK. Beachcomber in 1961 or 1960, I believe.
Mr. GRIFFIN. How long did he continue to rent from you?
Mrs. CHEEK. I don't think he rented there very long, 3 or 4 months. But this was after. Let's see, no, it wasn't after. That was after the first time I had met him.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, other than Mr. Olson, you don't know of anybody else of your acquaintances or tenants who knew Jack Ruby?
Mrs. CHEEK. No. You know, his name has been in the paper and his advertising; and I am sure a lot of people had heard about him and go to the club, but I had never gone to the club.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now did your husband know Jack Ruby? Mr. Cheek, did he know Jack Ruby?
Mrs. CHEEK. No. I don't know whether he did or not. He may know Jack Ruby because he is a National Cash Register man downtown that fixes all of the cash registers. He might have gone up and worked on a cash register. I really don't know. I haven't asked him.....
....Mrs. CHEEK. The man went through those records at the house. I let them go all through whatever they wanted to when they came out.
Mr. GRIFFIN. The Federal Bureau of Investigation?
Mrs. CHEEK. Yes. And I told them what connection I had in connection with Jack Ruby. He asked me to put $6,000 in a nightclub.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I am wondering if I could ask you if you will make those records available again? I think what I would like to do is ask one of the Secret Service agents to go out there and either make some arrangements to photocopy them and then return them to you, or else if it would be more convenient to let me look at them for some short period of time, and then return them to you. I think I would prefer to photocopy them, unless they are voluminous and it would be prohibitive. I think I would only be going back to January 1959.
Mrs. CHEEK. Those two men went through everything I had and looked at it.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Would you object if I----
Mrs. CHEEK. It is just an awful lot of trouble for me right now because I am very busy and I have illness in my home. If I thought I could help you, and really if there is anything there, I would bring them down myself to you.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I would like to do this in a way that would be least inconvenient.
Mrs. CHEEK. But I don't know Oswald and I just knew Jack Ruby when he asked me to invest $6,000 and I didn't do it. I didn't like the way he wanted me to invest. He wanted to put in $1,000, and me $6,000.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What would be the least inconvenient way to do this? If perhaps all the books are in one place, we could get the books from January 1, 1959, on to the present and photocopy them in a day and then return them to you. Would that be convenient?
Mrs. CHEEK. I have them stored, is the only thing. I have a lot of things in front, and it is difficult in digging it out, you know.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I suppose really--is there going to be anytime in the next week or so that would be more convenient for you than any other time?
Mrs. CHEEK. I really don't know of anything else. My daughter has cancer. She may be well and she may not be, I don't know.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Let me ask you this. Would you retain these records, and sometime during the next month, let me ask one of the agents to contact you again in connection with getting copies of them for us, and you could work out at that time what would be most convenient to you. If you don't like it that way, then suggest it some other way, because I want to do this some way that would be least inconvenient to you.
Mrs. CHEEK. Well, you are welcome to come to see them again as far as that is concerned, but I don't want to let them go out of my hands. I am not going to let them go from me, because if some of those things are missing, it is my fault. The men can come out there any time and look them over if they want to look them over and take pictures or whatever they may want to do, or copy them all off. They can come out there and just copy every name that I have ever had or ever rented to from the time of 1947, if they would like.
Mr. GRIFFIN. If this were done at your home, that would be the best so far as you are concerned?
Mrs. CHEEK. Yes; I will have to go get them. I never have moved them from Swiss Avenue, and they are in the storage house. I will have to go over and get them and bring them over to Hillcrest.
Mr. GRIFFIN. How many different boxes are we talking about?
Mrs. CHEEK. Everything I have ever owned, I guess is what I was going to give you. That is what I did before. Every record I have, every name that I ever rented to, I give it to the men that was out there and you may have them now.
Mr. GRIFFIN. I am sure we don't want to go back that far. Well, let me see what we can work out, with the Secret Service or the Bureau, and then I will either contact you myself about it or I will ask someone of the agents to

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do it, and I think it could be done fairly simply. I know in the past that photographers can set the camera on a kitchen table and run these things through. I take it then when Jack Ruby contacted you in connection with buying out a part of the Carousel Club, that he got your name from somebody?....
......Mr. GRIFFIN. Now I will ask you this, too. Do you have any information that you consider to be of any importance in connection with what this Commission is doing, that you haven't provided us so far?
Mrs. CHEEK. I don't think I have any information at all that I could give you. If I had, I had already called someone and told you about it. If I had ever talked to anyone or anyone mentioned anything about this, I just, like my sister, if she got a letter through the mail, I said, "You call the FBI immediately and turn it in." "Turn everything in."
She would get letters through the mail from different people and the people would be coming out interviewing, and I said, "Call immediately and tell them,"
Mr. GRIFFIN. If anything comes to your attention----
Mrs. CHEEK. I will call you and tell you, surely. I will try to be as helpful as I can be, because I don't understand it, like everyone else.
Mr. GRIFFIN. We certainly appreciate that, and we are trying to get as much as we can.
Mrs. CHEEK. I can't feature Ruby killing Oswald, and I can't feature the President being killed.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Well, you are not the only one.
Mrs. CHEEK. It shocked me.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Again, I want to thank you for coming down here. It has been a pleasure to meet you......

https://jfkfacts.org/dallas-police-chief-jesse-curry-on-the-origin-of-the-shots/#comment-859206
Tom S. February 23, 2016 at 6:52 am
Curry, November 6, 1969:




http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/C%20Disk/Curry%20Jesse%20Chief%20Dallas%20Police%20Department/Item%2005.pdf


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Back then, at junior high school development level, this apt description was not yet a "knee jerk" component of my vocabulary.:
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clus·ter·f***
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noun VULGAR SLANG•US
a disastrously mishandled situation or undertaking.
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Offline Mark A. Oblazney

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2019, 01:11:06 PM »
Mark, they "din't" play it straight with us? I am shocked, flumoxed. Say it ain't so!


VS Image published in 1969, by Jesse Curry:

Also published in former DPD Chief Curry's 1969 book.:

and:


he still killed him.  he still killed tippit.  he almost killed walker.  he almost killed himself (domage !).  all the rest is hubris and covering one's ass.  this goes back to the 20's !!!  but back then, it had nothing to do with kennedy's whack. nor did the 'harvey & lee' fable.  you are all just tilting at windmills (get a back brace!). why does this con go on?

And the legacy / epitaph of the DPD & the WC:

https://jfkfacts.org/dallas-police-chief-jesse-curry-on-the-origin-of-the-shots/#comment-859206
Tom S. February 23, 2016 at 6:52 am
Curry, November 6, 1969:




http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/C%20Disk/Curry%20Jesse%20Chief%20Dallas%20Police%20Department/Item%2005.pdf


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Back then, at junior high school development level, this apt description was not yet a "knee jerk" component of my vocabulary.:
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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2019, 03:36:06 PM »


"Curry wanted to dispel rumors that Oswald was being mistreated by police by allowing the press to get a good look at him during his transfer from the city jail to the county jail."

Oh yes, and one of those " reporters "had a revolver in his pocket.....   Just as he did at the "midnight press conference" that was staged because .... "Curry wanted to dispel rumors that Oswald was being mistreated by police by allowing the press to get a good look at him. "    But that "reporter" with the revolver in his pocket, couldn't get close enough to Lee Oswald at the midnight press conference...... 


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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute"
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2019, 08:32:54 PM »
On another thread, in response to my statement that Oswald's "Handcuffed Communist Salute" tends to support my theory that Oswald was more fundamentally Marxist-Leninist than Khrushchev....
 
 "Communist salute"? You mean this?--------


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Offline Jerry Organ

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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2019, 09:34:21 PM »
 
 "Communist salute"? You mean this?--------



Yeah. Shocking.  ::)