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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #136 on: February 17, 2018, 11:17:10 PM »
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I've got a better way Tim, ignore your nonsense and discuss with others who can produce evidence and answer questions in the OP

Just as I suspected. You're not interested in discussing the evidence. You cannot do so in an intelligent manner.

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #137 on: February 17, 2018, 11:22:02 PM »
The above is laughable. Unless the assassination occurred inside Germany during Hitler's reign, the SS did Not have the authority to deem themselves Judge/Jury and take possession/steal the body of JFK.

Were the Secret Service Agents ever charged with illegally removing the body from Dallas? If not, then shut your yap. They were justified under Title 18 , Part 1, Chapter 19 of the US Code in removing the body from Dallas.

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #138 on: February 18, 2018, 01:20:03 AM »

As I understand it the FMJ ammo was designed to inflict minimum damage to the victim (Hague Convention ). Oswald (ex-marine) would have known that. That was not his objective.


Childlike simplication.

Minimal damage was for soft tissue, not hard tissue. I don't think they can do much even today to make a metal bullet leave behind a clean contained pencil-like missile path through the skull.
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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #139 on: February 18, 2018, 02:03:45 AM »
Are you actually referring to this?
but I don't see a date before 1971

U.S. Code ? Title 18 ? Part I ? Chapter 18 ? ? 351
Congressional, Cabinet, and Supreme Court assassination, kidnapping, and assault; penalties

(f) If Federal investigative or prosecutive jurisdiction is asserted for a violation of this section, such assertion shall suspend the exercise of jurisdiction by a State or local authority, under any applicable State or local law, until Federal action is terminated.

(Added Pub. L. 91?644, title IV, ? 15, Jan. 2, 1971, 84 Stat. 1891; amended Pub. L. 97?285, ?? 1, 2(a), Oct. 6, 1982, 96 Stat. 1219; Pub. L. 99?646, ? 62, Nov. 10, 1986, 100 Stat. 3614; Pub. L. 100?690, title VII, ? 7074, Nov. 18, 1988, 102 Stat. 4405; Pub. L. 103?322, title XXXII, ? 320101(d), title XXXIII, ?? 330016(1)(K), (L), 330021(1), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2108, 2147, 2150; Pub. L. 104?294, title VI, ? 604(b)(12)(C), (c)(2), Oct. 11, 1996, 110 Stat. 3507, 3509; Pub. L. 112?87, title V, ? 506, Jan. 3, 2012, 125 Stat. 1897.)

I'm referring to 18 U.S.C. ? 372. It was first enacted in the 1860s.

Conspiracy to Impede or Injure an Officer of the United States, 18 U.S.C. ? 372
https://www.justice.gov/file/21261/download

"Unlike the more general conspiracy provision, 18 U.S.C. ? 371, that was enacted in much its present form in 1867, ? 372 did not even contain a requirement that an overt act be done in furtherance of the conspiracy before the conspiratorial conduct would become actionable. The broad purpose of protecting the Federal presence as fully as possible therefore supports a broad, rather than narrow, reading of the word ?office.?

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #140 on: February 18, 2018, 10:56:11 AM »
Oh! I see; he was only incompetent on the assassination weekend.  That makes your argument so much more robust. NOT.

I really don't understand the point you're trying to make

We are getting off-topic.

However ... Jesse Curry did not believe there was a conspiracy to kill JFK while he was Chief of Police in Dallas (until 1966). From Oswald's death to his (Curry's) retirement, he never mentioned a belief that there was a conspiracy to assassinate JFK.

Only when he wrote a book about the assassination in 1969--presumably to make money--did he claim doubts that Oswald was the assassin of JFK.

Curry's responsibility was to ensure the safe transfer of Lee Harvey Oswald from the City to the County Jail. Oswald was murdered while in custody of the Dallas PD. Chief Jesse Curry was incompetent.

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #141 on: February 18, 2018, 12:03:17 PM »
You're welcome, Lee.

I know their MO, no worries.

As I understand it the FMJ ammo was designed to inflict minimum damage to the victim (Hague Convention ). Oswald (ex-marine) would have known that. That was not his objective.

EDIT: Following the LN narrative that is...

Yes it was the hollow tipped ammo that was designed to cause explosive trauma on the target.  I suspect the head shot was a hollow tipped round which again points to conspiracy even without considering where it was fired from.



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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #142 on: February 18, 2018, 12:08:31 PM »
You're being idiotic. There wasn't a conspiracy but they didn't know that shortly after 1 pm.

Of course they did, they even had one of their team in the DPD when the interrogation started.  I believe it was a chap named Kunkel.
Why did they do that?  That's not their jurisdiction either.

How do you explain the SS blatantly not fulfilling their security details for that trip?

The SS were part of the Treasury dept at that time!!  Can't imagine what a motive may have been

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #143 on: February 18, 2018, 12:12:25 PM »
Childlike simplication.

Minimal damage was for soft tissue, not hard tissue. I don't think they can do much even today to make a metal bullet leave behind a clean contained pencil-like missile path through the skull.

Ok Einstein I don't see to much of an adult explanation here?

Why not answer the question as to whether a carcano can fire FMJ rounds.  Its not a trick question I would just like to know.

Hollow tipped ammo was used to cause explosive damage as per the head shot