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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #80 on: December 12, 2019, 03:04:19 AM »
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 Not entirely. I at least went back and restarted reading from post #1 and saw what was and what might have been.
According to the linked memo authored by SA Warner of the Secret Service ... https://i.imgur.com/rk20BhI.jpg
The stretcher in question "was left unattended for approx one hour" according... to the statement to him by attendant Tomlinson.
That is a long time :-\

About an hour. I doubt that it was that long but one can't blame Tomlinson for not keeping track of time. It's not important. What matters is that Tomlinson said that he found the bullet on that stretcher.

 
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Hospital security Wright's statement according to... https://imgur.com/CIn10To  stated that "It could not be determined who used that stretcher." Further stating that "The attached bullet was received about 5 minutes before Mrs Kennedy departed for the airport."
It was not far at all from Parkland to Love Field. LBJ was sworn in at 2:38 [Dallas time]
Wright said that the bullet "was attached" ... to what? Any clue?

That's not Wright's statement. It's SS Agent Richard Johnsen's statement. He had received the bullet from Wright and was relaying what Wright had told him. At the time that Wright handed the bullet over to Johnsen ,he would not have known who had been on the stretcher. Neither would Tomlinson have known for that matter. All that Tomlinson knew is that he had pulled the stretcher off of the elevator. Johnsen typed up that note and attached it to an envelop that contained the bullet. Hence the "attached expended bullet". Johnsen passed the envelop containing the bullet with attached note over to SS Agent James Rowley who then gave it to FBI agent Elmer Todd. Finally, Todd gave it to FBI Agent Robert Frazier. Here is the envelop that contained the bullet:


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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #81 on: December 12, 2019, 05:58:02 AM »
You keep saying essentially the same spombleprofglidnoctobuns over and over again. I've asked you at least three times to explain and defend your statements on the Single bullet theory. Yes it's a theory. So is the Newtonian theory of gravity. You called the Single bullet magic and miraculous. You called the Single bullet theory asinine. Now, you've up it to the SBT being the stupidest theory ever devised. One more time, what is it about the single bullet that would require it to have been magical? What exactly is it about the Single Bullet theory that makes it asinine, let alone the stupidest theory ever devised? Put up or shut up.

Yes it's a theory. So is the Newtonian theory of gravity.

The only difference is that Newton's theory has been proven correct time and time again.... The SBT has been proven at all!

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #82 on: December 12, 2019, 01:24:51 PM »
Yes it's a theory. So is the Newtonian theory of gravity.

The only difference is that Newton's theory has been proven correct time and time again.... The SBT has been proven at all!

The SBT has really been established as the Single Bullet fact in the minds of most who have studied it.  Of course, there will always be deniers but that goes with everything. The SBT fits. Nothing else does. At least not credibly anyway.
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« Reply #83 on: December 12, 2019, 02:03:04 PM »
The SBT has really been established as the Single Bullet fact in the minds of most who have studied it.  Of course, there will always be deniers but that goes with everything. The SBT fits. Nothing else does. At least not credibly anyway.

It may fit your theory, but that doesn't make it an established fact. It only makes it your opinion.

Just as it is my opinion, after having studied it, that there are way too many unresolved variables to call it anything other than a convenient theory.

The SBT fits. Nothing else does. At least not credibly anyway.

What else has ever seriously been officially investigated that did not fit?

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« Reply #84 on: December 12, 2019, 02:44:29 PM »
It may fit your theory, but that doesn't make it an established fact. It only makes it your opinion.

Just as it is my opinion, after having studied it, that there are way too many unresolved variables to call it anything other than a convenient theory.

What are the unresolved variables?

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The SBT fits. Nothing else does. At least not credibly anyway.

What else has ever seriously been officially investigated that did not fit?

For one, they looked at a "three shots fired, three shots hit" scenario. That didn't fit. The better question would be "What other possible scenarios have been looked at that did fit?" I've seen numerous attempts made but most of them are farcical.

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« Reply #85 on: December 12, 2019, 03:47:53 PM »
What are the unresolved variables?

For one, they looked at a "three shots fired, three shots hit" scenario. That didn't fit. The better question would be "What other possible scenarios have been looked at that did fit?" I've seen numerous attempts made but most of them are farcical.

What are the unresolved variables?

The exact positions of Kennedy and Connally relative to each other at the moment of the shot(s), the exact posture of Kennedy at the moment of the shot(s), the exact location of the car at the moment of the shot(s). There has been 56 years of discussions about this and there is still no mutual agreement.

For one, they looked at a "three shots fired, three shots hit" scenario.

The "three shots fired" scenario is just about the only thing they ever looked at. The "three shots hit" scenario was the initial assumption until they found they only had two bullets left to account for all the wounds which of course was why the SBT was concocted.

The better question would be "What other possible scenarios have been looked at that did fit?" I've seen numerous attempts made but most of them are farcical.


Numerous attempts? Really... pray tell which official investigative body did them?

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #86 on: December 12, 2019, 03:55:57 PM »
The SBT has really been established as the Single Bullet fact in the minds of most who have studied it.  Of course, there will always be deniers but that goes with everything. The SBT fits. Nothing else does. At least not credibly anyway.

 The SBT fits. Nothing else does. At least not credibly anyway.

Of course!!....  there are tens of thousands of murder mysteries in which the facts fit the conclusion..... They are FICTION.    The SBT is FICTION...

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #87 on: December 12, 2019, 04:41:38 PM »
What are the unresolved variables?

For one, they looked at a "three shots fired, three shots hit" scenario. That didn't fit. The better question would be "What other possible scenarios have been looked at that did fit?" I've seen numerous attempts made but most of them are farcical.

Well, critics have fired Carcano bullets nose-on at full-velocity into cow bones and proclaimed it was under the same conditions as the bullet that struck Connally's wrist.

They concluded that since they got mushroomed bullets then the "pristine" Magic Bullet had no part in the assassination. As far as they're concerned, they have tested the theory and have physical proof through testing that it is "stupid" or "miraculous".



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