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Offline Gary Craig

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2019, 02:33:47 PM »

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2019, 03:24:15 PM »
How many more Oswald the Cop Killer threads do we need to start?

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2019, 03:37:04 PM »


Notice that in this affidavit report that Helen Marsille  ( Markham?) told the police that the gunman was wearing a brown jacket and dark pants. .....    But the Jacket that was allegedly found in the parking lot was "White".... 

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2019, 04:31:04 PM »
OK----I will give that beginning from the sidewalk of the house 1026 N. Beckeley at 1:00 PM  [which is generous enough] and briskly walking ...using the shortest possible route... someone of average age and size could arrive at the northwest corner of 10th and Patton in 15 minutes.
However- this is the location where it was established that Mrs Markham stood at the time. J D Tippit's patrol car was parked across 10th and some 3 lots [120 ft] east of the intersection. The proposed murder allows no time for an encounter, a discussion at the side of the cruiser, an exit from the car and a subsequent shooting. It also allows no time for the alleged walker to have returned to the front of the rooming house from a reported bus stop some 120 ft north where Oswald was last seen by the housekeeper. So- again, this is like trying to squeeze 10 lbs of time into a 5 lb sack. It couldn't be done so it had to be faked.
In addition..as I have repeatedly pondered ---If this was supposed to be Oswald, where in hell was he going?

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2019, 07:24:25 PM »
OK----I will give that beginning from the sidewalk of the house 1026 N. Beckeley at 1:00 PM  [which is generous enough] and briskly walking ...using the shortest possible route... someone of average age and size could arrive at the northwest corner of 10th and Patton in 15 minutes.
However- this is the location where it was established that Mrs Markham stood at the time. J D Tippit's patrol car was parked across 10th and some 3 lots [120 ft] east of the intersection. The proposed murder allows no time for an encounter, a discussion at the side of the cruiser, an exit from the car and a subsequent shooting. It also allows no time for the alleged walker to have returned to the front of the rooming house from a reported bus stop some 120 ft north where Oswald was last seen by the housekeeper. So- again, this is like trying to squeeze 10 lbs of time into a 5 lb sack. It couldn't be done so it had to be faked.
In addition..as I have repeatedly pondered ---If this was supposed to be Oswald, where in hell was he going?

this is like trying to squeeze 10 lbs of time into a 5 lb sack. It couldn't be done so it had to be faked.

You've hit the nail on the head.....

I'd call your attention to officer  Poe's affidavit....  Poe wrote;... "On Nov 22, 1963 at approximately 1:15 pm Officer J.W. Poe and L.H. Jez 1479 working squad 105 heard police officer involved in a shooting at 400 block of N. Tenth street"........

Notice the time....At approximately 1:15 ....  Poe heard ( over the police radio ) that an officer had been involved in a shooting.....

This means that the shooting had to have happened several minutes prior to 1:15.....  Helen Markham was adamant that the shooting occurred at 1:06, and TF Bowley, arrived on the scene at 1:10 and saw Tippit lying in the street near his squad car.  Bowley used Tippit's radio to notify the police dispatcher of the shooting.

The Time that Bowley transmitted the information was approximately 1:15 ...Just as it says in Poe's affidavit.

JD Tippit was shot and killed at about 1:06pm.....Lee Oswald was seen standing in front of the rooming house at 1026 N. Beckley at 1:04pm.....  The rooming house was a mile away from the scene of Tippit's murder. 


   

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2019, 10:20:41 PM »
It's obvious, by calling out for Tippit (78), that Murray Jackson had not previously been alerted by his superiors that Tippit had already been shot and killed. Therefore, Wright, Davis and Lewis didn't call the police to report the shooting much earlier than Jackson was made aware of it over the police radio by the citizen.
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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2019, 10:54:56 PM »
OK----I will give that beginning from the sidewalk of the house 1026 N. Beckeley at 1:00 PM  [which is generous enough] and briskly walking ...using the shortest possible route... someone of average age and size could arrive at the northwest corner of 10th and Patton in 15 minutes.
However- this is the location where it was established that Mrs Markham stood at the time. J D Tippit's patrol car was parked across 10th and some 3 lots [120 ft] east of the intersection. The proposed murder allows no time for an encounter, a discussion at the side of the cruiser, an exit from the car and a subsequent shooting. It also allows no time for the alleged walker to have returned to the front of the rooming house from a reported bus stop some 120 ft north where Oswald was last seen by the housekeeper. So- again, this is like trying to squeeze 10 lbs of time into a 5 lb sack. It couldn't be done so it had to be faked.
In addition..as I have repeatedly pondered ---If this was supposed to be Oswald, where in hell was he going?

If this was supposed to be Oswald, where in hell was he going?

One can only guess where. My first guess, years ago, was to General Walkerís house to take care of unfinished business. But lately Iíve imagined that if he had not been so quickly apprehended, there just might have been an attempted hi jack to Cuba at Love Field.

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2019, 11:23:51 PM »
It's obvious, by calling out for Tippit (78), that Murray Jackson had not previously been alerted by his superiors that Tippit had already been shot and killed. Therefore, Wright, Davis and Lewis didn't call the police to report the shooting much earlier than Jackson was made aware of it over the police radio by the citizen.

As I posted earlier, would Jackson automatically assume Tippit, when Menzel, Parker and Nelson were all possibly around that location?

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2019, 11:46:17 PM »
If this was supposed to be Oswald, where in hell was he going?

One can only guess where. My first guess, years ago, was to General Walkerís house to take care of unfinished business. But lately Iíve imagined that if he had not been so quickly apprehended, there just might have been an attempted hi jack to Cuba at Love Field.
Walkers house? Love Field? Check your google map--this was 10-12 miles in the other direction.
if he had not been so quickly miraculously apprehended

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2019, 12:03:07 AM »
« Last Edit: October 07, 2019, 12:32:40 AM by Colin Crow »

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