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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1500 on: January 23, 2020, 01:00:09 AM »
No, I am suggesting an alternative that Oswald NEVER went actually outside on steps but WAS just inside the front lobby standing nearby that radiator and that image was what was the reason for the “ hasty” airbrushing that area between prayerblob and Lovelady and why the overlap shadow     
On part of Lovelady

however until some expert can prove there is evidence of airbrush added texturing

And until someone actually goes this Nov 22 2020 and stands in various places at the entrance and uses same type camera used at same distance and angle as by Wiegman

Therefore it’s still just an anomaly this shadow is albeit suspicious given the late find of notes by 2nd and 3rd party observers during Will Fritz “interrogation” of the suspect Oswald

   The crux of the alleged Shadow Issue is where You position Lovelady to be standing on the Landing. Dingbat Doyle claims that Lovelady was standing partially Behind Prayer Person. Putting Lovelady almost close enough to touch that West Wall that runs along the Landing is Insane all by itself. When you consider the Landing is LESS than 4 feet Deep, this positioning of Lovelady is even more Insane.  Figuring Prayer Person to be standing roughly a foot Back from the Edge of the Landing, + the feet and rear end/shelf of Prayer Person adds another 18 inches at least = Prayer Person standing 2 1/2 feet Back from the edge of the landing. That leaves roughly a little Over a foot between the rear end/butt of Prayer Person and the glass windows that run between the Landing and the TSBD Lobby. No Man is going to wedge himself into this TIGHT Space/Directly Behind someone. If you believe Prayer Person is a Female, putting Lovelady into this tight position behind her is a Non Starter.

   
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1501 on: February 07, 2020, 12:02:18 AM »
Friends, sometimes one becomes honestly convinced about something and genuinely excited by the discovery, only to find-----------upon mature reflection-----------that one was wrong. Is having to admit one's error, and having to apologize to folks for having wasted their time, mighty embarrassing and uncomfortable? Sure. But it's the right thing to do.

Thankfully, none of the above applies here!

Mr Lovelady is on the steps in this Wiegman frame, far from any natural shadow:



And yet we see a shadow covering most of his right side.

It is therefore blazingly obvious that the shadow has been added to the image-------------in order to hide something, or someone, in that area.

The contortions that have been performed to argue away this simple fact have been most entertaining, but it would be irresponsible to let the fools and charlatans and liars off the hook by ignoring their complete failure to offer a sanity-based refutation.

The truth hurts, my friends, but trust me: in the long run the lie is even worse!

So! Where exactly is Mr Oswald at the time of the assassination? He's either standing right behind Mr Lovelady or he's Prayer Man. Because-------------BREAKING NEWS---------------he went outside to watch the Presidential parade, just like he claimed!

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1502 on: February 07, 2020, 01:06:41 AM »
Friends, sometimes one becomes honestly convinced about something and genuinely excited by the discovery, only to find-----------upon mature reflection-----------that one was wrong. Is having to admit one's error, and having to apologize to folks for having wasted their time, mighty embarrassing and uncomfortable? Sure. But it's the right thing to do.

Thankfully, none of the above applies here!

Mr Lovelady is on the steps in this Wiegman frame, far from any natural shadow:



And yet we see a shadow covering most of his right side.

It is therefore blazingly obvious that the shadow has been added to the image-------------in order to hide something, or someone, in that area.

The contortions that have been performed to argue away this simple fact have been most entertaining, but it would be irresponsible to let the fools and charlatans and liars off the hook by ignoring their complete failure to offer a sanity-based refutation.

The truth hurts, my friends, but trust me: in the long run the lie is even worse!

So! Where exactly is Mr Oswald at the time of the assassination? He's either standing right behind Mr Lovelady or he's Prayer Man. Because-------------BREAKING NEWS---------------he went outside to watch the Presidential parade, just like he claimed!

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   The Black Guy leaning Against the Column is a good Landmark. Clearly, Lovelady is nowhere close to that Shadow Casting Wall that extends Directly UP from the Column the Black Guy is leaning against.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1503 on: February 07, 2020, 01:12:23 AM »
Thanks James.
If anything else changes, just update it for us.
I estimated the double doors with wood casing were about 36" wide.
The remainder to the west wall as a ratio to the double doors was 33" which equaled the 69" from center rail to west wall.
The double doors might be closer to 38" each, hence the 4" shadow difference between 29" and my 33".
Much appreciated.


    Bump regarding shadow's distance from Wall. LESS than 2 1/2 feet!
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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1504 on: March 05, 2020, 05:10:24 PM »
Now! If I had to put money on this, I would say that Mr Oswald probably is not Prayer Man in the Wiegman film. For the simple reason that his presence in that part of the doorway would not account for the lengths gone to to occlude his presence by putting a fake shadow down Mr Lovelady's side:



Were Mr Oswald PrayerManInWiegman, he would already be in deep shadow. No need for more shadow!

For this reason, I believe Mr Oswald at the time of Wiegman is probably the figure just behind Mr Lovelady:



And PrayerManInWiegman is probably Mr Bill Shelley. And... PrayerManInDarnell may possibly be Mr Oswald.

However!

If Mr Ken Duvall's core claim----------that he was on the steps at the time of the shooting-------------is true, and if my identification of him in the Hughes film is correct--------------





------------then his striking resemblance to Mr Oswald may just explain what made the cover-up investigators antsy enough to alter the Wiegman film... They thought they were looking at Mr Oswald.


If that were indeed the case, then we'd have an extraordinarily rich irony in play:

The misidentification of Mr Duvall as Mr Oswald ended up leaving the real Mr Oswald in the film!

So!

The critical question at this point is: is this Mr Ken Duvall?



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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1505 on: March 05, 2020, 07:36:43 PM »

     The issue I have with placing anyone almost Directly Behind Lovelady is the Landing is LESS than 4 feet deep. If Lovelady is standing atop that Landing, there is scant room behind him to accommodate anyone. Also, if Lovelady is standing atop the landing, and he is also standing very close to the Top of the hand rail, the glass door/entrance to the TSBD comes into play. That door when opened extends to the extreme outer edge of the Landing. If Lovelady is instead standing atop one of the steps, I could then entertain someone Possibly being behind him.
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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1506 on: March 06, 2020, 12:20:30 AM »
Ok Mr. Ford, LOL

So now it’s this other guy they thought looked like Oswald when they left that 2nd head unblackened out because the airbrush technique used was not able to mask out around Lovelady’s head

And in Couch/Darnell films prayerblob is Bill Shelley even though Lovelady can be seen walking away with someone whom is NOT Shelley? even though Shelley said he went WITH Lovelady when they both left the entrance steps together

You know, I’d rather just go back to the theory that Prayerblob is Oswald partly leaning back on a small step ladder or 3 legged stool he took back inside to the storage closet by the front staircase

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1507 on: March 06, 2020, 04:59:59 AM »
And in Couch/Darnell films prayerblob is Bill Shelley even though Lovelady can be seen walking away with someone whom is NOT Shelley? even though Shelley said he went WITH Lovelady when they both left the entrance steps together

Like anybody really knows if that’s Lovelady or not.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1508 on: March 06, 2020, 03:34:26 PM »
Like anybody really knows if that’s Lovelady or not.

    Lovelady and Shelley in Both of their WC Testimonies said they went across the Elm St Extension and stood on that triangle area across from the TSBD Steps. They claim to have been on that Triangle for 2-3 minutes before then heading down the Elm St Ext toward the railroad yard. Either: (1) that is Not Lovelady/Shelley heading down the Elm Ext. or, (2) the Time Stamping of the Couch/Darnell footage showing an alleged Lovelady/Shelley moving down the Elm St Ext. is Wrong.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #1509 on: March 06, 2020, 09:42:45 PM »
Ok Mr. Ford, LOL

So now it’s this other guy they thought looked like Oswald when they left that 2nd head unblackened out because the airbrush technique used was not able to mask out around Lovelady’s head

Not what I said, Mr Mason. At all!

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And in Couch/Darnell films prayerblob is Bill Shelley even though Lovelady can be seen walking away with someone whom is NOT Shelley?

We don't know that's Mr Lovelady!

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even though Shelley said he went WITH Lovelady when they both left the entrance steps together

Not in his first statement on the matter!

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You know, I’d rather just go back to the theory that Prayerblob is Oswald partly leaning back on a small step ladder or 3 legged stool he took back inside to the storage closet by the front staircase

You're free to believe whatever nonsense you want-------------none of which even begins to explain why a fake shadow was added down Mr Lovelady's side in the Wiegman film!

 

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