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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #300 on: September 21, 2019, 08:13:27 AM »
No more speculation on David's from me Sir Cumference, rather deal with what the evidence tells us....waiting for the indicators that support Jarman and Norman arriving before Rowland’s gunman in the window observation.

Crow,

Go eat some.

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #301 on: September 21, 2019, 08:19:20 AM »
Crow,

Go eat some.

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Graves, have a lie down.

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #302 on: September 21, 2019, 08:31:38 AM »
Graves, have a lie down.

Hmm ...

Wanna get morbid? 
« Last Edit: September 21, 2019, 09:27:27 AM by Thomas Graves »

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #303 on: September 21, 2019, 09:40:46 AM »
A challenge to the LN team....

Assemble here all the evidence you can find that places Jarman and Norman's arrival on the 5th floor prior to Rowland's observation of a 6th floor gunman.

Go for it.....don’t let David dangling.

So far.....the combined efforts are?

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #304 on: September 21, 2019, 10:35:33 AM »
So far.....the combined efforts are?

Upstart Crow,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greene%27s_Groats-Worth_of_Wit

Why are you so impatient?

Not everyone is an insomniac like you and I.

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« Last Edit: September 21, 2019, 10:43:32 AM by Thomas Graves »

Offline Rick Plant

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #305 on: September 21, 2019, 10:42:27 AM »
If you could have interviewed Carolyn Arnold back when it happened she would have told you Oswald was wearing his reddish brown shirt when she saw him in the 2nd floor lunch room at 12:24...

Well Doyle, you're 0 for 3 with the claims you made in this comment. All 3 of them are false.

First of all, Carolyn Arnold has never stated anywhere in official testimony or on the record in an interview that Oswald was wearing a "reddish brown shirt". She has never referenced any color or article of clothing that Oswald was wearing in an official statement. This is another made up claim by you. 0 for 1.

Second, Carolyn Arnold never said she saw Oswald in the lunch room at 12:24. Here is what she stated in an interview in 1978.

Mrs. Carolyn Johnson "Arnold" told The News recently that she saw Oswald on the second floor as she was on her way out of the depository at about 12:25 p.m. to watch the motorcade.

Carolyn Arnold said it was 12:25 and not 12:24 like you're falsely trying to claim. 0 for 2.

Third, Carolyn Arnold couldn't have told you anything about Oswald when it happened because she said in her official FBI testimony that she wasn't sure if she saw Oswald and only thought she caught a fleeting glimpse.

Carolyn Arnold (11-26-63 FBI report, CD5 p41) "As she was standing in front of the building, she stated she thought she caught a fleeting glimpse of Lee Harvey Oswald standing in the hall way between the front door and the double doors leading to the warehouse, located on the first floor. She could not be sure that this was Oswald, but felt it was and believed the time to be a few minutes before 12:15 P.M. She stated thereafter she viewed the presidential motorcade and heard the shots that were fired at the President; however, she could furnish no information of value as to the individual firing the shots or any other information concerning Oswald, whom she stated she did not know and had merely seen him working in the building."

So there you have it, no reddish brown shirt, 12:25 not 12:24, and she wasn't even sure if she saw Oswald on the day it happened. Only 15 years later did she make her statements that she saw him in the lunch room. You made 3 false claims here Doyle. You are 0 for 3.
 

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #306 on: September 21, 2019, 10:53:50 AM »
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo4/jfk12/hscawtns.htm#upper

EXCERPTS:

Mrs. Carolyn Walther was interviewed by the FBI on December 4, 1963, and stated that at the time of the motorcade, she was standing on the east side of Houston Street, about 50 or 60 feet south of the south curb of Elm Street.(10) After the ambulance left with the epileptic, Mrs. Walther looked up at the windows of the Texas School Book Depository and saw a man in the southeast corner window of the fourth or fifth floor; according to the FBI report, Mrs. Walther was "positive" the window as being the "most easterly" on the south side of the building.(12)

Mrs. Walther saw the man was holding a rifle in his hands; the barrel of the rifle was pointing downward and the man was looking toward Houston Street.(13) Both his hands were extended across the window ledge.(14) She described the man as having light brown or blond hair and wearing a white shirt.(15) She described the rifle as having a short barrel and being possibly a machine gun. She noticed no other features of the rifle.(16)

Mrs. Walther said also that she saw at the same time a second man standing in the same window to the left of the man with the rifle.(17) This man was wearing a brown suit coat; she could only see his body from the waist to the shoulders and his head was hidden by part of the window.(18)

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>>> And another one flies over the cuckoo's nest:

Mrs. Walther saw the man was holding a rifle in his hands; the barrel of the rifle was pointing downward and the man was looking toward Houston Street.(13) Both his hands were extended across the window ledge.

>>> Okay sure... assassins are going to expose themselves in such a manner even before the f'kn motorcade arrives. Good catch, Mrs Walther.



 
« Last Edit: September 21, 2019, 11:08:32 AM by Bill Chapman »

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #307 on: September 21, 2019, 11:04:05 AM »
Upstart Crow,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greene%27s_Groats-Worth_of_Wit

Why are you so impatient?

Not everyone is an insomniac like you and I.

--  MWT  ;)

See...there's this thing called timezones......

Why do you think I suffer from insomnia? Assume much?

Sorry to disturb your bliss.

Lost the plot, Graves?
« Last Edit: September 21, 2019, 11:53:06 AM by Colin Crow »

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #308 on: September 21, 2019, 11:33:41 AM »
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo4/jfk12/hscawtns.htm#upper

EXCERPTS:

Mrs. Carolyn Walther was interviewed by the FBI on December 4, 1963, and stated that at the time of the motorcade, she was standing on the east side of Houston Street, about 50 or 60 feet south of the south curb of Elm Street.(10) After the ambulance left with the epileptic, Mrs. Walther looked up at the windows of the Texas School Book Depository and saw a man in the southeast corner window of the fourth or fifth floor; according to the FBI report, Mrs. Walther was "positive" the window as being the "most easterly" on the south side of the building.(12)

Mrs. Walther saw the man was holding a rifle in his hands; the barrel of the rifle was pointing downward and the man was looking toward Houston Street.(13) Both his hands were extended across the window ledge.(14) She described the man as having light brown or blond hair and wearing a white shirt.(15) She described the rifle as having a short barrel and being possibly a machine gun. She noticed no other features of the rifle.(16)

Mrs. Walther said also that she saw at the same time a second man standing in the same window to the left of the man with the rifle.(17) This man was wearing a brown suit coat; she could only see his body from the waist to the shoulders and his head was hidden by part of the window.(18)

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>>> And another one flies over the cuckoo's nest:

Mrs. Walther saw the man was holding a rifle in his hands; the barrel of the rifle was pointing downward and the man was looking toward Houston Street.(13) Both his hands were extended across the window ledge.

>>> Okay sure... assassins are going to expose themselves in such a manner even before the f'kn motorcade arrives. Good catch, Mrs Walther.



Mrs. Walther told the FBI that almost immediately after she saw the second man in the window, the presidential motorcade approached on Houston Street.(19)

You dropped this from your cut and paste Bill. Intentional?

In answer to your question.....a successful one it seems. One that "exposed" himself with weapon in hand 15 minutes before the arrival of the target.

Also....

"In an FBI interview on December 5, 1963, Mrs. Ruby Henderson related that at the time of the motorcade, she was standing on the east side of Elm Street "just north of Houston Street."(1) She said that right after an ambulance left the area with a man who had suffered an epileptic seizure, she looked up at the Texas School Book Depository; she Saw two men in the window on one of the upper floors.(2) She could not recall exactly which floor they were on, but stated that she did not recall seeing any other persons on any floors above the two men.(3)."

Note again both Walther and Henderson reference Belknap's seizure.....a key point for determining timing.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2019, 11:50:32 AM by Colin Crow »

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: The "Domino Room Alibi"
« Reply #309 on: September 21, 2019, 03:57:19 PM »
See...there's this thing called timezones......

Why do you think I suffer from insomnia? Assume much?

Sorry to disturb your bliss.

Lost the plot, Graves?

Why are you so impatient, Mr. Attitude?

 

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