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Why Was Oswald Shot?

To shut him up
13 (46.4%)
To avoid a trial
1 (3.6%)
So that Jackie did not have to return to Dallas
3 (10.7%)
Some other reason
11 (39.3%)

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Offline Frederick Clements

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Why Was Oswald Killed?
« on: July 07, 2019, 11:15:29 AM »

What are your thoughts regarding this?

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Why Was Oswald Killed?
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Offline Denis Pointing

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Re: Why Was Oswald Killed?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2019, 11:39:49 AM »
Ruby was a nut-job, simple as that. In his twisted mind, he'd be celebrated as a hero and let go.

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2019, 11:57:59 AM »
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Ruby was a nut-job, simple as that. In his twisted mind, he'd be celebrated as a hero and let go.

Yes, it was a spur of the moment impulse decision by someone who was known to react that way. Most people who knew Ruby said that they were not surprised that Jack reacted the way he did.

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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2019, 03:11:48 PM »
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Yes, it was a spur of the moment impulse decision by someone who was known to react that way. Most people who knew Ruby said that they were not surprised that Jack reacted the way he did.

I think of the flight of three people, from Dallas, on November 23; two of whom only returned after Oswald had been shot.

John Liggett suddenly left the Oak Cliff graveside funeral of a family member when word of the assassination was related to him there. He had been gone for 24 hours when he came back to scoop-up his family, without explanation, and headed south. His state of high anxiety and chain smoking was immediately alleviated after having watched the murder of LHO from a hotel room. He then told his family that it was safe to go home, and they did so.

Igor Vaganov, also from Oak Cliff, was checked-out by police hours after the assassination. He then hopped in a car and headed to Philadelphia, not returning until Oswald was dead.

Larry Crafard, employee of Jack Ruby, who lived in the Carousel Lounge, woke-up Saturday morning, after spending the wee hours of the 23rd driving around Dallas with Ruby and George Senator, while Ruby did strange things, and fled Dallas by foot and thumb with $7 in his pocket. He was located weeks later hiding-out with an aunt in an isolated farm house in Michigan.

Why?



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I think of the flight of three people, from Dallas, on November 23; two of whom only returned after Oswald had been shot.

John Liggett suddenly left the Oak Cliff graveside funeral of a family member when word of the assassination was related to him there. He had been gone for 24 hours when he came back to scoop-up his family, without explanation, and headed south. His state of high anxiety and chain smoking was immediately alleviated after having watched the murder of LHO from a hotel room. He then told his family that it was safe to go home, and they did so.

Igor Vaganov, also from Oak Cliff, was checked-out by police hours after the assassination. He then hopped in a car and headed to Philadelphia, not returning until Oswald was dead.

Larry Crafard, employee of Jack Ruby, who lived in the Carousel Lounge, woke-up Saturday morning, after spending the wee hours of the 23rd driving around Dallas with Ruby and George Senator, while Ruby did strange things, and fled Dallas by foot and thumb with $7 in his pocket. He was located weeks later hiding-out with an aunt in an isolated farm house in Michigan.

Why?

And what conclusion does that lead you to, Michael?

That the evil, evil, evil CIA killed JFK?

--  MWT   ;)

Btw, last week you posted a memo by your hero at CIA, Harold J. Osborn, in which he claimed that another hero of yours, (false) defector Yuri Nosenko, had greatly helped the CIA.

At that time, I challenged you to post the name of anyone whom Nosenko had helped the CIA or FBI to "uncover" who: 1) wasn't already suspected, or 2) was still actively working for the KGB/GRU, or 3) still had access to classified material.

Thought of anyone, yet?

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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2019, 09:21:47 PM »
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Yes, it was a spur of the moment impulse decision by someone who was known to react that way. Most people who knew Ruby said that they were not surprised that Jack reacted the way he did.
Yes, friends and colleagues recount how he would literally punch someone out - viciously so - and then calmly sit down and continue with a conversation. Not isolated incidents of this type; but repeated ones.

The problem with thinking about the conspiracy, or one of them, is that we have too much information about it. It's ironic that we believe that the more we know about an event the more we would understand it. Why it happened, who did it, how does it fit into History.

But in this case all of this information distracts us, takes us away from what happened. People think that because this was a great event that there must have been a great cause for it. Therefore all of this information - Ruby was an informant for the FBI! And he associated with the mob! - needs to be put into the event. We simply can't have Oswald on one side and JFK on the other. This information must balance things out. But most of it doesn't.

We look at what we have; we consider the alternative explanations; and we make a judgment. The best explanation, the one that best fits into what we know is that Oswald shot JFK. These other explanations are simply implausible and don't make sense when you drill down into them.

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We look at what we have; we consider the alternative explanations; and we make a judgment. The best explanation, the one that best fits into what we know is that Oswald shot JFK. These other explanations are simply implausible and don't make sense when you drill down into them.

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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2019, 12:06:05 AM »
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..........
--  MWT   ;)

Btw, last week you posted a memo by your hero at CIA, Harold J. Osborn, in which he claimed that another hero of yours, (false) defector Yuri Nosenko, had greatly helped the CIA.

At that time, I challenged you to post the name of anyone whom Nosenko had helped the CIA or FBI to "uncover" who: 1) wasn't already suspected, or 2) was still actively working for the KGB/GRU, or 3) still had access to classified material.

Thought of anyone, yet?

LOL

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Michael Clark partially quoted me by posting this:


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--  MWT   ;)

Btw, last week you posted a memo by your hero at CIA, Harold J. Osborn, in which he claimed that another hero of yours, (false) defector Yuri Nosenko, had greatly helped the CIA.

At that time, I challenged you to post the name of anyone whom Nosenko had helped the CIA or FBI to "uncover" who: 1) wasn't already suspected, or 2) was still actively working for the KGB/GRU, or 3) still had access to classified material.

Thought of anyone, yet?

LOL



Dear Michael,

Why did you delete the part of my post that directly related to the topic of this thread in your reply?  You know, where you replaced my "And what conclusion does that lead you to, Michael? That the evil, evil, evil CIA killed JFK?" with ".........." above my "signature"?

-- MWT   ;)
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Re: Why Was Oswald Killed?
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2019, 12:35:26 AM »

If Ruby killed Oswald for the mob, he did it for Castro-agent Santo Trafficante.

I think it's more likely, though, that he felt he was just doing his patriotic duty.

-- MWT   ;)
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