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Offline Sandy Larsen

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Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« on: February 07, 2018, 10:23:59 PM »
Not only was Oswald missing missing a molar, he was missing a front tooth as well. And yet his exhumed body was not!

Oswald was missing a front tooth, but his exhumed body was not!
New evidence is presented here.


This topic has been debated before. But I have since discovered evidence that proves young Oswald had a

prosthetic (artificial) tooth, held in place with a dental bridge. This in spite of the fact that the

Oswald killed by Jack Ruby had all natural teeth and no place where a prosthetic tooth could fit. We

know this because his body was exhumed in 1981 and we can see in the exhumation photographs that his

teeth were all natural and still in place.

It is of no surprise to me that Oswald had a prosthetic tooth. After all, there is plenty of evidence

that his front incisor was knocked out in a fist fight when he was in 9th grade. Before presenting the

new evidence for the prosthesis, I will summarize the evidence for Oswald's tooth being knocked out.

Those who are aware of the missing-tooth evidence can skip over this summary.


Ed Voebel Testified that Oswald Lost a Tooth

Ed Voebel was Oswald's best friend in 9th grade. He testified as follows before the Warren Commission:

Mr. JENNER. But you do remember that you attempted to help him when he was struck in the mouth on that

occasion; is that right?
Mr. VOEBEL. Yes; I think he even lost a tooth from that. I think he was cut on the lip, and a tooth was

knocked out.

Now, it sounds as if Voebel wasn't certain Oswald got his lip cut and lost a tooth. But that probably

was not the case. After all, he explained later how some of the other boys took Oswald into the boys

restroom and patched him up. Does that sound like he wasn't sure Oswald had gotten his lip cut?

Ed Voebel used the phrase "I think" numerous times in his testimony, even in cases where he surely would

have known. Like when he said, "I think I just went on home and everybody went their way" after an

altercation that occurred the day prior. Was he really not sure he went home? And that the other boys

went their way?

Here's a sampling of Voebel's use of the phrase:

"Yes. Well, I think one of them was in the same grade as Lee."
"The fight, I think started on the school ground"
"I think John was a little smaller, a little shorter than Lee."
"Well, I think Oswald was getting the best of John"
"but I think I just went on home and everybody went their way"
"and Oswald I think, was a little in front of me"
"I think that was what brought it all about. I think this was sort of a revenge thing on the part of the

Neumeyer boys"
"I think he even lost a tooth from that. I think he was cut on the lip, and a tooth was knocked out"
"I don't think he was that good"
"I don't think he was a great pool player"
"I think I met her one time"
"I think the legal age here is 18"
"I think in a way I understood him better than most of the other kids"
"I think they have gotten worse"
"I think we were in the same grade, I think we were."
 .... and on and on. Ed Voebel said ?I think? or ?think? nearly a hundred times during his testimony. It

seems to have been a part of the way he talked.

But be that as it may, there is more evidence of a lost tooth.


Lillian Murret Testified that Oswald Went to See a Dentist

Oswald's Aunt Lillian testified as follows before the Warren Commission:

"Another time they were coming out of school at 3 o'clock, and there were boys in back of him and one of

them called his name, and he said, "Lee," and when he turned around, this boy punched him in the mouth

and ran, and it ran his tooth through the lip, so she [Marguerite] had to go over to the school and take

him to the dentist, and I paid for the dentist bill myself, and that's all I know about that, and he was

not supposed to have started any of that at that time."

Now why would Oswald have to see a dentist if he hadn't lost a tooth?

Okay, it's conceivable that the tooth was merely loosened. However, that goes against Ed Voebel's

recollection. And besides, there is further evidence that Oswald lost a tooth. Photographic evidence and

more.


A Photo Printed in Life Magazine Shows That the Tooth is Missing

Oswald's 9th grade friend, Ed Voebel, was tasked with taking photos to be included in the school

yearbook. He later sold one of those photos to Life Magazine, which published the photo in their

February 21, 1964 issue. Here it is:



Here is a close up showing that Oswald's front tooth was missing. In fact, there might be two missing teeth:



It is easier to see in this contrast-adjusted version of the photo:



New Evidence:  Oswald Had a Prosthetic Tooth!

When we were last discussing this topic I wondered what Oswald might have done about his missing tooth.

David Josephs posted a couple of his dental charts and it occurred to me that Oswald's Marine Corps

records might indicate something about a bridge or a denture. So I dug through John Armstrong's

collection at Baylor University and numerous files at the Mary Ferrell website to see what I could find.

To my great surprise I did find something! Apparently overlooked till now. In the chart for Oswald's

dental exam dated March 27, 1958, is a field where the questions is asked, "Prosthetic Required?" The

dentist is instructed to "explain briefly" if the answer is yes. And that is precisely what Oswald's

dentist did. He wrote "FAILED 5-5-58." In other words, Oswald required a prosthesis because the one he

currently had failed on May 5, 1958. (Or maybe that was the date Oswald reported the failure.)

Here's the dental chart:



And here's a closeup of the "Prosthesis Required" field:



So, at some point in time Oswald got a prosthesis for his missing tooth, and it broke while he was in

the Marines.

Now, one might ask how we know that the prosthesis was for Oswald's front tooth, the tooth we know was

missing. My short answer would be that it doesn't really matter. Because photographs and x-rays of

Oswald's exhumed teeth show that all his teeth were natural and that there was no room for a prosthesis

to fit! (See the exhumed teeth photos below.) And so right away we realize that the Lee Harvey Oswald in

the tomb was not the same Lee Harvey Oswald who had the dental exam on March 27, 1958.

But rather than speculate that the young Oswald lost not only his front tooth but yet another -- for

which he was fitted the prosthesis -- let's keep it simple and admit that in all likelihood he got the

prosthesis for the tooth in which we have considerable evidence he lost... his front tooth. Occam's

razor calls for us to make that conclusion. (Again, not that it matters.)

There is an interesting question we might ask, though it is irrelevant to the conclusions made in this

presentation. And that is, what type of prosthesis did Oswald have? He might have had a removable

denture like this one:



Or he might have had a fixed dental bridge, like this one (except for his top front teeth, of course):



In my opinion, Oswald was fitted with a dental bridge. Because had he worn a denture, the dentist would

have asked him to remove it before his examination. And his dental chart would show a missing tooth

there, which it does not.


But the Exhumed Oswald Had no Missing or Prosthetic Teeth

The reader can see for himself that the Oswald killed by Jack Ruby had no fake teeth and no room for a

prosthesis at all. All his teeth were natural. Here are the teeth of the exhumed body:



Front View



Top Inside View



Bottom Inside View


Conclusion

No other conclusion can be drawn from this evidence other than the Oswald shot by Ruby was not the same

Oswald who lost his front tooth in a 9th grade fist fight and was thereafter fitted with a prosthesis to

replace the tooth.

In other words, the Oswald shot by Ruby was an imposter.

Given that this imposter shared the same siblings with the real Oswald, it can be concluded that he had

been an imposter since childhood. And we thereby have further proof of the Harvey and Lee story as

written about by John Armstrong.

Offline Michael Clark

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2018, 11:11:09 PM »
Excellent work Sandy. You don't even need experts. Experts come in all colors.

Offline Robert Reeves

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2018, 11:15:31 PM »
I haven't yet read Harvey & Lee, do your findings corroborate mortician Paul Groody's claims that the head was switched in between 63 and the 81' exhumation?

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2018, 11:37:45 PM »
While looking for some early Oswald photos it seems that for whatever reason he was reluctant to give a big toothy grin, in fact he mainly covered his top teeth with his top lip.







A habit that followed him into adulthood.



Upon closer examination of the "toothless" photo it looks like Oswald is again pulling his top lip over his top teeth and what we see is just shadows inside his mouth.



So I made a quick morph and it becomes obvious to me that in the classroom photo we can see Oswald straining his top lip over his gums and teeth to bring his lip forward.



Kinda like this.





JohnM




« Last Edit: February 07, 2018, 11:49:46 PM by John Mytton »

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2018, 12:05:59 AM »
Just talked with a Prof of Orthodontics. I just related the basic details of a missing premolar and the relevant ages of the individual no mention of who it was. His answer was emphatic....there is no way that the teeth will restraighten once tipped without application of some device to correct it.

Offline John Anderson

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2018, 01:12:32 AM »
There's no way a toothless Russian was walking around pretending to be Lee Harvey Oswald and his family didn't notice. They woulda spotted the teeth right away.

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Re: INDISPUTABLE Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2018, 02:06:49 AM »


No wonder Marina would no longer let him touch her.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2018, 03:51:22 PM »
There's no way a toothless Russian was walking around pretending to be Lee Harvey Oswald and his family didn't notice. They woulda spotted the teeth right away.


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Offline John Anderson

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2018, 04:20:22 PM »
You must admit Bill, the whole Harvey and Lee thing is just too much.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Indisputable Evidence for Harvey & Lee
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2018, 04:51:52 PM »
You must admit Bill, the whole Harvey and Lee thing is just too much.

I absolutely agree, John.

Thing is, in that 9th grade classroom photo, Oswald is not missing a tooth.  The dark spot is the roof of his mouth unobstructed by his front teeth.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2018, 04:53:36 PM by Bill Brown »

 

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