When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2019, 04:45:33 AM »
Something from the officer that most likely first picked up the wrapper on the 6th floor. Doesn’t seem to be in the “Studebaker position" after all does it?



So the wrapper was not originally picked up by Montgomery in the "Studebaker position". It would explain why so many officers who observed the SN prior to the discovery of the rifle failed to mention it. It wasn't there! Likely it was placed in the corner at a later time.

Logical assumption?

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2019, 04:13:30 AM »
So the wrapper was not originally picked up by Montgomery in the "Studebaker position". It would explain why so many officers who observed the SN prior to the discovery of the rifle failed to mention it. It wasn't there! Likely it was placed in the corner at a later time.

Logical assumption?

No disagreement?

Offline Gary Craig

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2019, 05:46:33 PM »
So the wrapper was not originally picked up by Montgomery in the "Studebaker position". It would explain why so many officers who observed the SN prior to the discovery of the rifle failed to mention it. It wasn't there! Likely it was placed in the corner at a later time.

Logical assumption?

Yes.

Fritz arrived on the 6th floor within minutes of the alleged SN being found. He checked out the area that had been cordoned off prior to arriving. He stated to the WC that the gun bag was found after he left.


Offline Colin Crow

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2019, 03:29:07 AM »
Yes.

Fritz arrived on the 6th floor within minutes of the alleged SN being found. He checked out the area that had been cordoned off prior to arriving. He stated to the WC that the gun bag was found after he left.



Of course it is the logical assumption Gary......seems the WC was keen for it to be there at the time of the shots......strange.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2019, 03:52:01 AM »
Fritz arrived on the 6th floor within minutes of the alleged SN being found. He checked out the area that had been cordoned off prior to arriving. He stated to the WC that the gun bag was found after he left.
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Mr. DULLES. When was the paper bag covering that apparently he brought the rifle in, was that discovered in the sixth floor about the same time?
Mr. FRITZ. No, sir; that was recovered a little later. I wasn't down there when that was found.
Mr. DULLES. It was recovered on the sixth floor, was it not?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir; I believe so. We can check here and see. I believe it was. But I wasn't there when that was recovered.
So where did Mr Fritz go?
 

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2019, 04:01:30 AM »
So where did Mr Fritz go?

He went to the NW corner of the 6th floor when the rifle was found......stayed a while....continued searching for a bit......then ventured over to Bill Decker's Office some time before 2pm (from memory).

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2019, 01:38:07 AM »
While we wait for John (or anyone else) to offer up another 5 names, I propose that the wrapper was first observed in the "Studebaker position" some time after the discovery of the rifle.

I propose that the accumulated evidence shows that Oswald did not place the wrapper in the "Studebaker position" in the SN.