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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #376 on: July 09, 2019, 10:12:06 PM »
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Maybe the sociopathic little snot separated himself from his Hidell (rhymes with Fidel) personality and truly believed that he, Lee Harvey Oswald (AKA Dirty Harvey), had indeed never bought a rifle  ;)

Or maybe Armchair Psychologist Chapman is just making assumptions again.

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By first-day affidavit, Marin's stated that 'two weeks ago', she opened the blanket and saw a rifle. She couldn't say for sure if it was the same rifle she had been shown. BFD. So she wasn't exactly an aficionado on boys' toys.

Exactly.  Which is why you have to take any statement from her about a rifle with a grain of salt.

Mr. RANKIN. In Russia did you have a rifle or a shotgun?
Mrs. OSWALD. I don't know the difference. One and the other shoots. You men. That is your business.

But she says something about a wooden stock and the entire LN community goes apesh*t.

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Whatever the rifle she had seen in the blanket was gone two weeks later.

The two weeks was an error.  Marina's testified that this happened about a week after she came from New Orleans.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #376 on: July 09, 2019, 10:12:06 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #377 on: July 09, 2019, 10:20:13 PM »
Wrong

Actually Marina said something in Russian.  Those words are those of Ilya Mamantov, recruited for the task by an Army Intelligence operative.

The affidavit does say something about a rifle in a garage, but not a rifle belonging to Lee.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #378 on: July 09, 2019, 10:47:59 PM »
Or maybe Armchair Psychologist Chapman is just making assumptions again.

Exactly.  Which is why you have to take any statement from her about a rifle with a grain of salt.

Mr. RANKIN. In Russia did you have a rifle or a shotgun?
Mrs. OSWALD. I don't know the difference. One and the other shoots. You men. That is you

But she says something about a wooden stock and the entire LN community goes apesh*t.

The two weeks was an error.  Marina's testified that this happened about a week after she came from New Orleans.

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>>> Nice to see you recognize the possibility of Oswald being rather deranged

Why are you repeating what I've already recognized re Marina's lack or knowledge about firearms?
You wouldn't be trying to act 'smart and superior', now would you John?
 
Be a sport and confirm that she opened the blanket and saw a rifle just after arriving from New Orleans. Are you sure she didn't just 'peek' in the tied corner of the blanket at that time, John?

Meanwhile, I'll go with her same-day affidavit declaring that she opened the blanket 'two weeks ago' and that the blanket was empty 'today'

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #379 on: July 09, 2019, 11:05:38 PM »
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>>> Nice to see you recognize the possibility of Oswald being rather deranged

As with you.

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Why are you repeating what I've already recognized re Marina's lack or knowledge about firearms?

Damn, you're even snarky when someone agrees with you! 

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Be a sport and confirm that she opened the blanket and saw a rifle just after arriving from New Orleans. Are you sure she didn't just 'peek' in the tied corner of the blanket at that time, John?

She saw a part of a wooden stock that she took to be a rifle.

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Meanwhile, I'll go with her same-day affidavit declaring that she opened the blanket 'two weeks ago' and that the blanket was empty 'today'

Of course you will.  Even though she only did this one time.  That's called cherry-picking.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #380 on: July 09, 2019, 11:07:35 PM »
Actually Marina said something in Russian.  Those words are those of Ilya Mamantov, recruited for the task by an Army Intelligence operative.

The affidavit does say something about a rifle in a garage, but not a rifle belonging to Lee.

'Something about a rifle in a garage'

LOL

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #381 on: July 09, 2019, 11:13:07 PM »
"I told them he used to have a rifle to hunt with in Russia"

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #382 on: July 09, 2019, 11:22:44 PM »
As with you.

Damn, you're even snarky when someone agrees with you! 

She saw a part of a wooden stock that she took to be a rifle.

Of course you will.  Even though she only did this one time.  That's called cherry-picking.


So you can't back your claim that Marina's first-day affidavit statement 'opened the blanket two weeks ago' statement was in error. Cool.

So what if she 'only did this one time'. Was Oswald saying he was a patsy, only one time, good enough for you? By your standard, that's cherrypicking.

Agreeing with me, my arse
Marina's disinterest in firearms is a given
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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #383 on: July 09, 2019, 11:58:30 PM »
So, why did Marina not mention a rifle in Ruth Paine's garage in her first day affidavit...

Huh?



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